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Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 09:33 AM Dec 2015

Good News!

No matter which candidate we run (Bernie or Hillary) according to the new Q. poll we win!

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2307

Clinton 47% Trump 41% - Bernie 49% Trump 41%

Clinton 45% Rubio 44% - Bernie 44% Rubio 43%

Clinton 47% Cruz 42% - Bernie 49% Cruz 39%

Clinton 46% Carson 43% - Bernie 47% Carson 41%

That's pretty exciting, and what happens when you have great candidates.

Go Democrats!

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Good News! (Original Post) Agschmid Dec 2015 OP
. NRaleighLiberal Dec 2015 #1
I really hope we all work to impact down ticket races... Agschmid Dec 2015 #2
Those down ticket races are where we need to focus. LonePirate Dec 2015 #18
We really are in a solid position... NCTraveler Dec 2015 #3
It is good news. Though Hillary is still a divisive figure berni_mccoy Dec 2015 #4
There is risk involved with every candidate, see Edwards. Agschmid Dec 2015 #5
Agreed. But the risk in this case is a berni_mccoy Dec 2015 #7
The Republican wet dream of a Hillary Clinton indictment will not come to pass... DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #8
It may be a GOP wet dream... berni_mccoy Dec 2015 #9
Prosecution is the province of the Department Of Justice DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #10
That's why obstruction will be the likely charge berni_mccoy Dec 2015 #12
Some people will keep hoping... DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #13
You should be careful about making such wagers berni_mccoy Dec 2015 #15
It is a negligible risk... DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #17
Not happening MaggieD Dec 2015 #19
A risk is a risk. Wishing it away is meaningless berni_mccoy Dec 2015 #21
Wishing for it is meaningless. okasha Dec 2015 #22
A goal without a plan is simply as wish MaggieD Dec 2015 #23
Yes it is time for Democrats to win elections, to get Democrats elected to Congress and to start Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #6
It is the Democrats for the win! Nt. seabeyond Dec 2015 #11
Yes, if the election were tomorrow. Dawgs Dec 2015 #14
Which I have... Agschmid Dec 2015 #16
These are strong polling numbers Gothmog Dec 2015 #20

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
2. I really hope we all work to impact down ticket races...
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 09:38 AM
Dec 2015

They are just as important!

Thanks for the kick.

LonePirate

(13,431 posts)
18. Those down ticket races are where we need to focus.
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 11:02 AM
Dec 2015

I think we're on very solid ground with our presidential candidates. We have got to start making in roads at the state and local level where we have been decimated in the past five years.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
4. It is good news. Though Hillary is still a divisive figure
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 09:38 AM
Dec 2015

And there is much risk Comey's investigation will bring charges. Party insiders are worried about this scenario.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
5. There is risk involved with every candidate, see Edwards.
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 09:40 AM
Dec 2015

That's not a suggestion that any current candidate is doing anything "bad" but just an example of how quickly things can change.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
7. Agreed. But the risk in this case is a
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 09:46 AM
Dec 2015

Pending federal investigation. If Comey comes out with nothing, she is vindicated. But there is expectation that obstruction charges are likely as these are not ignorable by the justice department and would likely damage her campaign. Comey is no friend to Democrats and any charges of information leakage could be dismissed with the prosecutorial discretion of the justice department. Obstruction cannot be ignored though and a special prosecutor would be assigned.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
8. The Republican wet dream of a Hillary Clinton indictment will not come to pass...
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 09:55 AM
Dec 2015
... But there is expectation that obstruction charges are likely as these are not ignorable by the justice department and would likely damage her campaign. Comey is no friend to Democrats and any charges of information leakage could be dismissed with the prosecutorial discretion of the justice department. Obstruction cannot be ignored though and a special prosecutor would be assigned.






The Republican wet dream of a Hillary Clinton indictment will not come to pass... If they want to have a wet dream I suggest they think really hard about Sarah Palin or Ann Coulter during the day.



#lol@me.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
9. It may be a GOP wet dream...
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 10:12 AM
Dec 2015

But it's also a reality that Comey is either going to be a king-maker or king-slayer (or queen in the case of Hillary).

And he has a track record of no quarter. Like it or not, but the outcome of 2016 is going to be most affected by what this one person does.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
10. Prosecution is the province of the Department Of Justice
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 10:15 AM
Dec 2015

If the GOP and their witting or unwitting allies are hoping for an indictment of Hillary Clinton they will be sorely disappointed.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
12. That's why obstruction will be the likely charge
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 10:17 AM
Dec 2015

Justice cannot ignore that.

They do have discretion over leaked classified information.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
13. Some people will keep hoping...
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 10:19 AM
Dec 2015
Some people will keep hoping...


That being said I am willing to literally bet my life that Hillary Clinton will not be indicted and am open to all and lesser wagers if I find a wagering partner with the intestinal fortitude to take my challenge.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
15. You should be careful about making such wagers
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 10:22 AM
Dec 2015

That is why I said it was a risk and it could go either way. But risk is risk. And this one is real. There is no backup plan if it happens after the nomination and Clinton wins. We will lose the General Election in that case.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
17. It is a negligible risk...
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 10:29 AM
Dec 2015

Actually I take a greater risk when I ride the subway in Los Angeles. It is a big fat juicy target.






okasha

(11,573 posts)
22. Wishing for it is meaningless.
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 01:19 PM
Dec 2015

No matter how desperate for something, anything, to salvage Sanders' limping campaign.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
23. A goal without a plan is simply as wish
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 01:31 PM
Dec 2015

- Antoine de Saint-Exupery. That describes Bernie perfectly to me.

Now wait for it -- the BS supporters will undoubtedly say she would have endorsed Bernie. LOL!

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
6. Yes it is time for Democrats to win elections, to get Democrats elected to Congress and to start
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 09:43 AM
Dec 2015

returning states from red to blue.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
16. Which I have...
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 10:24 AM
Dec 2015

So I realize we aren't done and we all will need to work for whomever the nominee is to make sure we win.

I'm ready to do that for any of the 3 candidates.

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