2016 Postmortem
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No matter which candidate we run (Bernie or Hillary) according to the new Q. poll we win!
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2307
Clinton 47% Trump 41% - Bernie 49% Trump 41%
Clinton 45% Rubio 44% - Bernie 44% Rubio 43%
Clinton 47% Cruz 42% - Bernie 49% Cruz 39%
Clinton 46% Carson 43% - Bernie 47% Carson 41%
That's pretty exciting, and what happens when you have great candidates.
Go Democrats!
NRaleighLiberal
(60,019 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)They are just as important!
Thanks for the kick.
LonePirate
(13,431 posts)I think we're on very solid ground with our presidential candidates. We have got to start making in roads at the state and local level where we have been decimated in the past five years.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)And the voters seem to be unifying.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)And there is much risk Comey's investigation will bring charges. Party insiders are worried about this scenario.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)That's not a suggestion that any current candidate is doing anything "bad" but just an example of how quickly things can change.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)Pending federal investigation. If Comey comes out with nothing, she is vindicated. But there is expectation that obstruction charges are likely as these are not ignorable by the justice department and would likely damage her campaign. Comey is no friend to Democrats and any charges of information leakage could be dismissed with the prosecutorial discretion of the justice department. Obstruction cannot be ignored though and a special prosecutor would be assigned.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)The Republican wet dream of a Hillary Clinton indictment will not come to pass... If they want to have a wet dream I suggest they think really hard about Sarah Palin or Ann Coulter during the day.
#lol@me.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)But it's also a reality that Comey is either going to be a king-maker or king-slayer (or queen in the case of Hillary).
And he has a track record of no quarter. Like it or not, but the outcome of 2016 is going to be most affected by what this one person does.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)If the GOP and their witting or unwitting allies are hoping for an indictment of Hillary Clinton they will be sorely disappointed.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)Justice cannot ignore that.
They do have discretion over leaked classified information.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)That being said I am willing to literally bet my life that Hillary Clinton will not be indicted and am open to all and lesser wagers if I find a wagering partner with the intestinal fortitude to take my challenge.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)That is why I said it was a risk and it could go either way. But risk is risk. And this one is real. There is no backup plan if it happens after the nomination and Clinton wins. We will lose the General Election in that case.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)Actually I take a greater risk when I ride the subway in Los Angeles. It is a big fat juicy target.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)But keep dreaming.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)okasha
(11,573 posts)No matter how desperate for something, anything, to salvage Sanders' limping campaign.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)- Antoine de Saint-Exupery. That describes Bernie perfectly to me.
Now wait for it -- the BS supporters will undoubtedly say she would have endorsed Bernie. LOL!
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)returning states from red to blue.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Dawgs
(14,755 posts)Not so much if you followed politics longer than 3 years.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)So I realize we aren't done and we all will need to work for whomever the nominee is to make sure we win.
I'm ready to do that for any of the 3 candidates.