In Confidential Memo, Hillary Clinton Urged Obama To Close Gitmo

[DemocratSinceBirth]

WASHINGTON-- Weeks before she stepped down as secretary of state, Hillary Clinton wrote a memo urging President Barack Obama to step up his administration's efforts to close the military detention facility in Guantanamo Bay in his second term. In the confidential January 2013 memo obtained by The Huffington Post, Clinton told Obama she worried that support for closing Guantanamo would further erode unless the administration took action.

"We must signal to our old and emerging allies alike that we remain serious about turning the page of GTMO and the practices of the prior decade," Clinton wrote in the document, using the military abbreviation for the U.S. naval base. "The revitalization of transfers, efforts to prosecute some detainees in federal courts, a longer-term approach to the return of Yemeni detainees, and credible periodic reviews would send the signal and renew a credible detention policy."




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-guantanamo-memo_5654cc40e4b0258edb33537b

[MineralMan]

1. Yes, absolutely.

[Major Hogwash]

2. And you bought this, hook, line, and sinker?

Leaked confidential memos from Hillary during a campaign?
Really?
When she wouldn't even admit to using a private server for over 6 months?

Jesus Christ!!

[Rose Siding]

6. If the memo said she argued against closing it would you have been so doubtful?

And the server? Really? BENGHAZIIIII!!

[Major Hogwash]

8. Oh, please, tomorrow Camp Weathervane will release another superficial "confidential" memo.

One that says before she stepped down from her position as Secretary of State, Hillary warned Obama about the dangers of ISIS.

But, then it may not be a confidential memo, after all.
Just another fractured fairy tale.

[Sheepshank]

9. Did you note at the bottom of the page who and when it was released?

your bitter response is duly noted and just as quickly disregarded.

[Major Hogwash]

11. I'm sorry, I was busy dodging bullets in Bosnia when you made your post.

I was being rejected by the Marine Corps, which is why I was dodging bullets in Bosnia.
Because I heard the only place to sign up for the Marine Corps was in Bosnia.
So, I flew to Bosnia, and just got back from being rejected by the Marine Corps.

What was it you wanted to know?

[Sheepshank]

12. well....at least you read the post enough to try and poorly deflect/divert

Too bad you didn't address the question at hand. But I completely understand that the need to be outraged is so much more important than actually addressing the reality of the Clinton campaign and the releasing of documents that she likley didn't have much say over.

[Major Hogwash]

14. I never question anything Hillary says.

After she said she had dodged bullets in Bosnia in 2007, and then I found out last month that she said she was rejected by the Marine Corps when she claimed that she tried to join the Marine Corps in 1975, I knew better than to ever question anything she would say . . . because it would just be a fucking lie!!!!

If she told me it looked like it was going to be a nice, sunny day today, I'd go look out the window before I went outside to see if it was raining!!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. As a dispassionate observer I have to give this round to Sheepshank

If I was a boxing referee I would have had to stop the fight.

[morningfog]

3. But supports the continuation indefinite detention, so is meaningless really.

A change in location for the 46 indefinitely held without charge does not alter the human rights abuse.

[JaneyVee]

4. Bernie voted no on closing GITMO.

[morningfog]

5. Bernie voted NO to indefinite detention, at least twice.

His only vote for NDAA was the version which prohibited indefinite detention.

[riversedge]

7. Will Bernie or has Bernie said he would release them??

[Sheepshank]

10. He's too busy honing his 20 year old message of income inequality. n/t

[morningfog]

13. He has said that he would restore habeas corpus so all detainees and has co-sponsored a bill

to do the same. So, the answer to your (not quite accurate question) is yes. He would release or prosecute all detainees. He would not continue to hold anyone indefinitely without charge, as Hillary would.

Glad I could help you discover this clear difference between the two candidates on an issue of fundamental importance to our country and our Bill of Rights. This abuse has to end. If it is condoned for 46, as it is by Obama and Hillary, a future president can add to the list any number they wish.

[riversedge]

15. again. You missed the point of the story-Hilllary would like them procecuted. That is why

she wrote to Obama before she left State--urging him to get this settled as soon as possible and gave him suggestions.

[morningfog]

16. No, you misread. Read the memo. She said she wants transfers to other countries to go

as soon as possible for those who are eligible. She wants whose to be prosecuted to be prosecuted as soon as possible. She wants the remaining 46 moved to the states and held indefinitely, with credible periodic review.

She explicitly endorses the continued indefinite detention of the 46. You can't hide form it or ignore it. Unless you have something else where she says that she now does not support indefinite detention, there is nothing to the contrary.

This memo says, after discussing those detainees approved for transfer:

"Additionally, 46 detainees are designated for continued detention; the periodic review process you ordered in March 2011 is vital to a credible policy that includes continued detention."

It concludes, in summation:

"The revitalization of transfers, efforts to prosecute some detainees in federal courts, a longer-term approach to the return of Yemeni detainees, and credible periodic reviews would send that signal and renew a credible detention policy."

"Credible periodic reviews" applies to the indefinitely detained as a sub group separate and distinct from those marked for transfer or federal prosecution. She advocates the inclusion of indefinite detention in the policy she proposes.

[Todays_Illusion]

17. Is OP unaware that President Obama issued an E.O. in January 2009 to close GITMO?

That E.O. had to be rescinded because Congress refused to provide the funds.


http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/2009-obama.html


So isn't this just political posturing on the part of Hillary and disloyal as well?

[Sheepshank]

19. Political posturing in a memo that was originally classified?

....and without knowing when and if the document would ever be declassified?

cynicism makes one say the strangest things to try and bolster a really inane talking point.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. How is it disloyal to send a confidential memo to your superior?

EOM

[Todays_Illusion]

22. I wouldn't dream of trying to be you thought director, can you name a reason for such a meno after

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the E.O. and why does it suddenly appear during a Presidential campaign?

[AtomicKitten]

21. On 7/19/07, Hillary voted to bar transfer of Guantanamo detainees to American prisons.

The final vote was 94-3, and Bernie Sanders was among the 3 that voted to allow it. This measure had it passed would have sped up closure of Guantanamo but instead made it more difficult.

link: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/28/upshot/the-senate-votes-that-divided-hillary-clinton-and-bernie-sanders.html

In many of the cases in which she differed with Mr. Sanders, who represents Vermont and is also running for the Democratic presidential nomination, Mrs. Clinton went with the crowd. She voted with an overwhelming majority of her colleagues, including Republicans. Her positions on the votes that differed from Mr. Sanders represented policy differences, but they may have also reflected political calculations by Mrs. Clinton, who was preparing for a presidential run in 2008.

Bernie is one of the few that had the courage to get this right.