Bernie Sanders Calls Planned Parenthood Shooting An Unintended Consequence Of Bitter Rhetoric

[Eko]

"While we still do not know the shooter's motive, what is clear is that Planned Parenthood has been the subject of vicious and unsubstantiated statements attacking an organization that provides critical health care for millions of Americans. I strongly support Planned Parenthood and the work it is doing and hope people realize that bitter rhetoric can have unintended consequences." http://crooksandliars.com/2015/11/bernie-sanders-calls-planned-parenthood

Unintended, really? For such a smart guy that's pretty dumb. Sheesh.

[Eko]

1. Unintended?

Making false videos is Unintended?
Calling for the deaths of providers is Unintended?
Giving out the addresses of providers is Unintended?
Visiting them in jail to show support after the act is Unintended?
Really?
I hope they clarify that soon.

[AgingAmerican]

6. He's talking about Fiorina

Judging by what you just said, you don't even know what 'unintended consequences' means. That's on you, pal.

[Eko]

12. Wow, thanks for educating me.

Good grief.

[AgingAmerican]

17. Somehow I doubt it will stick

[longship]

36. I agree, AA. He/She does not know what they are talking about.

[Kentonio]

2. If you want to get people to change their ways

You don't start out by directly attacking them. It's also worth remembering that even among hardcore pro-life people, the majority almost certainly don't support murder or realize quite how much they encourage these kinds of horrific events.

[Eko]

3. Who did I directly attack?

[Kentonio]

4. I didn't mean you.

I mean if he hadn't described it as unintended, then it might well have come across to the pro-life side as an attack. I saw it more as an attempt to get some progress by making them think about the consequences of their actions without immediately putting them on the defensive.

[AgingAmerican]

7. Bizarre

Where do you guys get this nonsense?

[beam me up scottie]

14. The Not Good Enough Bernie Brigade has been busy.

It only took them one day to find a way to exploit the situation and claim Bernie is soft on murderers.

[Eko]

22. Never said that.

So,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[beam me up scottie]

25. Right, he's just harder on the banks because all he cares about is money.

Obvious poster is obvious.

[Eko]

31. When you only have one reason to an anwser

then you are the one who is obvious.

[AgingAmerican]

26. You are absolutely unable to defend your op

Thus it's a waste of time trying to get you to do so. Have a good night, or day depending which coast you are on.

[Scootaloo]

28. That's EXACTLY what you just said

Seems like he is harder on the banks than abortion killers. Really.

[Eko]

32. Sure,

see post 8.

[Scootaloo]

35. Direct quote, dude. You just said Sanders is easy on abortion killers.

You might as well call it a night.

[Eko]

37. I clarified it on post 8.

[Eko]

8. to be fair

it would be their enablers, not the actual perps.

[AgingAmerican]

9. If you don't understand what he is talking about

It's on you. It's pretty simple. Who's the dumb one here?

[Eko]

10. Unintended consequence.

If you dont get that then I will let you stew on it until you do.

[AgingAmerican]

11. you don't know what that means

Judging by your ignorant OP

[Eko]

13. If that floats your boat

you can think that all you want.

[AgingAmerican]

15. Well that was a well thought out clarification

nt

[Eko]

18. Feel very free to explain a simple concept that I just dont seem to get.

I will wait.

[AgingAmerican]

21. Which one?

There are several...

[Eko]

24. Either you can or you cant.

[AgingAmerican]

58. Which one?

There are several.

[Eko]

16. Says the guy with more bumper stickers on his posts that actual words.

[AgingAmerican]

20. So the personal attacks begin

So you are unable to defend your op? What's the pay scale?

[Eko]

33. Personal attacks,

see your post 9, beat me by a mile.

[AgingAmerican]

57. Why can't you defend your OP?

All you do is snark. It's all they have.

[NorthCarolina]

55. Member since 2011, and yet almost 1/2 of his/her total post count accrued in the last 90 days.

Let them go ahead and burn up their backup accounts too.

[beam me up scottie]

19. Congratulations! You found a way to exploit the tragedy and use it to smear Bernie.

Instead of coming together and agreeing to fight the real enemy in the war on women.

Stay classy Hillary supporters.

[Scootaloo]

23. Just when you think they couldn't stoop any lower, huh?

[beam me up scottie]

27. Yup. I'm shocked it took them this long.

[frylock]

60. Who ever thought something like that?

[Scootaloo]

62. I try to assume the best about people

But goddamn it's a Sisyphean task.

[Eko]

29. Not a hillary supporter.

So try again. So whatever he says about this I cant give my opinion?

[beam me up scottie]

30. Lol! Like I haven't heard that shtick before.

[Eko]

34. You said nothing very well.

[beam me up scottie]

38. So you're just accusing Bernie of being soft on domestic terrorism for sport?

I've seen your other posts about Bernie and his supporters - including the ones in the HRC group, so I'm not buying what you're selling.

[Eko]

40. No,

I think he misspoke, and I hope he fixes it. I have commented on many sanders posts in favor of him, I am sure you somehow missed them. Fine, whatever, he is not perfect and while I think he is the best choice for president I get to critique him, of course here on the Sanders every day forum where he can do no wrong and everybody else is evil I can understand the blowback. I just dont have to sit here and pretend like he is. I have that prerogative. Unintended consequences is not a good thing for him to say. Dont like that I point it out, dont care. Want to argue why that was a good thing for him to say, I'm interested.

[beam me up scottie]

42. And there it is.

of course here on the Sanders every day forum where he can do no wrong and everybody else is evil

That wasn't so difficult, was it?

You should have just admitted that this was about settling scores in your op and saved everyone the trouble.

[Eko]

41. Yup,

never said that either.

[beam me up scottie]

43. "Seems like he is harder on the banks than abortion killers. Really."

That's exactly what you said.

[frylock]

61. Dear Penthouse Forum, I am Sanders supporter, but....

[beam me up scottie]

63. LOL!

[AgingAmerican]

59. LMAO

Now THAT'S funny!!

[longship]

39. This thread is a toxic waste dump.

Yup! I contributed. But that was before I realized how radioactive it was; I had not read all the responses.

Nevertheless, I heartily disagree with the OP.

[bobbobbins01]

44. Heaven forbid he stop short of calling the GOP murderers.

I thought one of the big issues certain people had was that when he's president, he wouldn't be able to reach across the aisle to get things done. So should he be calling them out as bloodthirsty killers, or should he be schmoozing with them to make shitty deals? I can't keep all the backwards logic straight.

[NCTraveler]

45. While I think it is overall an acceptable statement....

I'm not sure outside of Sanders most die hard support that people really give him much credit for intelligence. He is a shrewd and competent politician when it comes to carving out a career for himself off the public dime with little to show for it. He is a career politician and being elected over and over again isn't a sign of intelligence. The greatest intelligence I have seen from him is how he is so easily able to drag LIV's around by their unquestioning noses. Other than that, not so much.

[beam me up scottie]

46. Right. All those latte drinking, Volvo driving, ivy league educated LIVs.

Can you guys choose one meme about his supporters and stick with it?

One day we're over educated upper middle class elitists and the next we're livs and "ignorant white trailer trash"*.

I'm never sure why I'm being hated from one day to the next.











* Yes, a Hillary supporter actually called Bernie supporters that.

[NCTraveler]

47. Lol. Thanks for backing me up.

Though I don't think you will recognize why. George Bush has the Ivy League education you are bragging about. Lol. The exact thought process I'm talking about. It's based in exceptionalism, not intelligence or reality. You nailed it and you don't know why. You also seem to have missed where I don't take issue with the concern the op has brought here. Seems to be a pattern of deflection with you. Bet it won't be the last time here you act like I support their premise. Just more spin from a Sanders supporter.

[beam me up scottie]

48. Thanks for helping the op in their quest to use the victims to smear Bernie and his supporters.

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I knew someone would come running when the bell rang.

And also for answering the question: how low will you go?

Looks like the Republicans aren't the only ones using "bitter rhetoric" this election season.

I guess it's all about scoring points for some folks, the victims in this war don't seem to matter to them at all.

Either that or they actually believe Bernie and his supporters are the real enemies.

[NCTraveler]

49. You are very welcome BMUS.

Love the republican thing. It was borne of great intelligence. Like moths to a flame. Lol. Hope you had an amazing turkey day.

[beam me up scottie]

50. Hopefully other Hillary supporters will be classy enough to shun this thread.

So far so good, most can smell this kind of sewage miles away and know better than to get it on themselves.

I avoid Benghazi threads for the same reason.

Ciao!

[NCTraveler]

51. Ciao to you. Hope you had an amazing Thanksgiving.

[Bluenorthwest]

54. Like the OP, your verbiage steers over toward that area where I start wondering....

It feels like stone cold bias. He's a US Senator and you assert that he's not really intelligent but 'shrewd' in how he gets things for himself from others. It smacks of the brand of bias known as antisemitism.

Characterizations employing tired, old biased tropes. Not something Democrats should keep indulging in.

[bowens43]

52. for once I disagree with Bernie, this is exactly what they intended and they are hoping for more

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

53. He's being 'politic'. Politicians have been known to do so, even Bernie. nt

[NCTraveler]

56. Politicians like Sanders need to stop differentiating between guns....

in AA communities and causations communities. That is exactly what he does with his rural vs urban language. Yes, trot out the famous Obama quote like you actually like anything about Obama. That is one of the biggest strawmen I have seen used here in order to prop up the NRA.