Hillary Clinton vs. FDR

[Eric J in MN]

Hillary Clinton said again today that she wants to be a president for "the struggling, the striving, AND the successful."

The problem with that statement is that "the successful" have enough power in other areas (the private sector, Congress, the Supreme Court) without a president intentionally trying to represent them.

This is what FDR said:

We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob.

Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me--and I welcome their hatred.

I should like to have it said of my first Administration that in it the forces of selfishness and of lust for power met their match. I should like to have it said of my second Administration that in it these forces met their master.

[Thinkingabout]

1. I haven't seem any posts where Hillary compares herself, maybe I

Missed it somewhere but I would appreciate a link to her comparison.

[Eric J in MN]

2. I was contrasting Hillary Clinton and FDR.

I'm not saying that she said that she's similar to FDR.

Bernie Sanders implied in his speech on "democratic socialism" at Georgetown that he's following in the tradition of FDR; I'm not aware of Hillary Clinton saying that about herself.

[passiveporcupine]

6. No one said she was comparing herself to FDR

Hillary Clinton said again today that she wants to be a president for "the struggling, the striving, AND the successful."

This is what she said.

[NanceGreggs]

3. What a ridiculous thing for her to say.

Everyone knows that a president should only represent some Americans, not all Americans.



<<<<< because these days, it's necessary.

[rhett o rick]

5. Problem is that she defines "successful" as Goldman-Sachs. That's who she wants to help.

She has no connection to the 99%. She is wealthy, has wealthy friends, and is supported both personally financially and her campaign by the wealthy. Her pretense to want to help the 99% is weak at best.

So I ask myself, why would a Democrat support a candidate that is so clearly in favor of the 1%. The answer is simple

http://www.democraticunderground.com/127710250

Willing to give up their freedoms and liberties for the comfort of authoritarian control.

[Armstead]

8. It's a Romney style coded meme

It's reassuring the wealthy (and simply affluent) that she's not going to really change anything because she's not really one of those liberals who want to take from the rich or put regulatory restraints on the activities of business.

[Lordquinton]

9. All lives matter, eh?

Thought we'd be well past explaining that line of thinking.

[NanceGreggs]

23. What has that to do with ...

... the fact that the president represents all citizens?

[Lordquinton]

24. I would think that after the events of the past year

that the point would be self evident.

[NanceGreggs]

25. Really?

When did the role of POTUS stop being the representation of all citizens?

[Lordquinton]

26. So again, All lives matter?

What a tone deaf argument.

[NanceGreggs]

31. Where's your argument ...

... for insisting that the president doesn't represent all Americans?

[Lordquinton]

32. So you don't see that saying "Representing all Americans"

is the same as saying "All lives matter"

No one's saying that the president won't represent all Americans, but the Americans that need representing the most aren't being represented, and the "Successful" ones have had the majority of representation for far too long.

So again, tell us how "All lives matter"

[NanceGreggs]

35. This has nothing to do with saying "all lives matter" ...

... nor is the president representing all citizens the same as saying "all lives matter".

It has to do with the mandate of any president, which is to represent ALL Americans, regardless of ethnicity, religion, political affiliation, and/or financial wherewithal.

And exactly how do you define "successful"? Is that the guy who started his own business and became successful enough to support his family? Is it the woman who worked her way up in a corporation and now earns enough to put her two kids through college?

What about the guy who - after years of struggle and hard work - became "successful" in his chosen field within the last five years, or one year, or six months? Has he had the "majority of representation for far too long"?

Where do you draw the line on "successful" - and where do those "successful" people get cut-off from deserving to be represented?

Look, it's blatantly obvious that you don't know what you're talking about. So why don't we just leave it at that?

[Lordquinton]

36. How tone deaf can you get?

Ignoring the blatant insult at the end of your post, how can anyone who has been paying attention to the news cycle the past year not see the parallels.
Saying "I support all Americans" and specifying the successful ones (Which from contextual clues, like the line about representing wall street, and that she negotiated a trade agreement that screws the majority of Americans) is exactily like when she said "All lives matter"

[Lordquinton]

39. Again ignoring the blatant insult you keep adding

This line of hers is just like when she said "all lives matter" do you disagree?

[cui bono]

4. And in the first (?) debate she said she "represented Wall Street" as a senator.

She is supposed to represent PEOPLE. ALL of them.

[oasis]

7. Hillary will make her own mark. She has a history of advancing causes

aimed at easing the plight of the disadvantaged. A minimum of research on your part will enlighten you on her compassionate nature.

[RoccoR5955]

10. Like the poor disadvantaged bankers

and stock brokers. They lost so much money in the crash. Now they cannot afford that third Mercedes.

[oasis]

13. Gee, I was under the impression Jay Leno was in retirement. (eom)

[Live and Learn]

11. She should have listed them in the order of her representation

with the successful (whatever the fuck that means, rich maybe) first.

[Eric J in MN]

14. Yeah, I think that "the successful" is a euphemism for "the rich." NT

NT

[riversedge]

34. Obviously your thinking has much to be desired.

[pinebox]

12. This makes me want to hurl

Sorry but Hillary is no FDR nor will she ever be, the closest to FDR we'll see this election is Bernie and O'Malley isn't that far behind in many retrospects. Hillary however? 90 degrees the other direction. Comparing a Third Way Dem to the king of progressives is like trying to play basketball with baseball bats.

[Live and Learn]

15. +1000 nt

[oasis]

17. You won't be sick when you consider the fact that, in this

wonderful country we love, Hillary will have the opportunity to prove you wrong. And eight years in which to do it.

Rejoice.

[pinebox]

18. She won't

and she has proved me right every single time.

You know what makes me rejoice? Candidates who aren't entwined in some political charade and who actually want to serve the general public.

Like THIS!

[oasis]

19. Bernie's a great guy. I have admired him for years.

I don't see him departing from the national scene once the elections are over. He has ample name recognition now and will surely continue to spread his message.

[pinebox]

20. He is

and in this election, lives are literally at stake. Nobody thinks about this but honestly, when it comes to health care, people will literally die under the expansion of the ACA because red states won't expand Medicaid. That is truly sad. The ACA saved my life but many aren't so fortunate. Another reason why I support Bernie. There are lives at stake.

[oasis]

21. Hope everything's okay

with your health at present. I was disappointed that the ACA wasn't as strong as Obama and Ted Kennedy had first envisioned. The fight for affordable healthcare will continue but it is imperative that we have a Democrat in the White House so the dream of availability for all is not snuffed out.

My IPad is going haywire on me so I have to let my wife take a look at it.

Good night and take care.

[Live and Learn]

16. The successful? What the hell does that mean?

Are the poor not successes? The striving, obvious failures? Why the hell doesn't she just say the rich like she means?

Many others are successful whether she knows it or not. Money does not and never will equal success.

What a disgusting statement.

[riversedge]

28. oh, get a grip!! Your faux outrage is silly to read.

[Live and Learn]

29. As is your post. nt

[Doctor_J]

37. she believes that the rich don't get a fair shake in DC

Without her help they'll starve

[BlueMTexpat]

22. Good for Hillary in

wanting to be a President for all Americans!

Is FDR running in 2016?

I must have missed that.

[riversedge]

27. what a SILLY post!! Of course any President would represent ALL of its citizents. It is the silly

season but golly gee. get a grip!

[JoePhilly]

30. I thought this was a new SCI FI movie ...

... where FDR comes to the future in a time machine ... and he's 500 feet tall because he got nuclear waste on him just before he got in the time machine.

So now, he's running around the Midwest leaving giant wheel chair tracks all over the place.

And Hillary has to shrink him before the large hannels he's creating flood large parts of the United States.

Dan Akroyd stars as FDR, and Madonna plays Hillary, with a great singing voice.

[Eric J in MN]

33. LOL. NT

NT