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elleng

(130,974 posts)
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 10:57 AM Nov 2015

Gun violence should be treated like a public health problem.

Democratic presidential candidate and former Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley, appeared before residents at RiverWoods at Exeter on Nov. 23. Among the many accomplishments he made as governor was his plan to reduce gun violence. In spite of a great deal of opposition he was able to ban assault weapons. I was able to speak with Gov. O'Malley afterwards and made the point that as an emergency physician I viewed gun violence as a public health issue. He agreed that this was not about ideology this is about public health. He said that if the deaths from gun violence were instead deaths from Ebola infections there would be no question about its authenticity as a public health issue.

There are 300 million guns in private hands that are not going away anytime soon. We are not going to eliminate guns in America so we need to figure out how to coexist with them. Can we curb gun violence by learning lessons from public health successes? Can we use the same public health model that helped to reduce motor vehicle injuries and chronic and infectious diseases? It requires drawing on proven, evidence-based strategies that have successfully reduced other public health threats like smoking, car crashes, and accidental poisonings. This is not challenging or interfering with the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution.

Gun violence claims one life every sixteen minutes in the United States. The primary priority of a public health approach requires taking a broad, systemic look at potential causes or risk factors and taking a multipronged approach to solutions. Our past successes in reducing other harmful behaviors and accidents provide a set of evidence-based tools to address the many underlying root causes of gun violence. Policy debates and discussions have largely focused on issues relating to gun ownership, such as banning assault weapons, instituting waiting periods for purchases, and requiring universal background checks. All of these accomplish something but we must acknowledge that gun violence is a public health problem arising from sociocultural, educational, behavioral, and product safety issues that transcend gun ownership alone. Call gun violence evil, call it a mental health issue. But please call it a public health problem and save lives.

http://www.seacoastonline.com/article/20151127/NEWS/151129489

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aikoaiko

(34,172 posts)
1. Anyone who claims the AWB saved lives is not an evidence-based public health advocate
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 11:54 AM
Nov 2015

No one has ever produced any evidence showing that.

2naSalit

(86,647 posts)
4. Probably because our
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 01:41 PM
Nov 2015

current temper-tantrum Congress has banned investigation into the question... remember that part back about a year or so ago? The CDC is not allowed to study this issue as a public health issue nor have anything to do or say about it.

aikoaiko

(34,172 posts)
5. The congress banned propoganda not data, but it is true that the CDC decided not to risk it.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 04:41 PM
Nov 2015

But there are many private foundations with anti-gun interests that could have ponied up for studies and universities are fully capable to addressing the issue with out massive federal dollars.

Murders with guns were beginning to decrease just before the AW ban, decreased during the AWB, and after the AWB. Murder with guns leveled off to 1960 rates and has been mostly stable.

I can't find anything with more recent data but this chart shows the ups and downs before, during, and after the AWB years. There were slight decreases in murders with all nonhandgun murders but the big decline was in murders with handguns which were not addressed much by the AWB.

2naSalit

(86,647 posts)
6. Good point
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 04:47 PM
Nov 2015

Though I have found, even back when I was in academia over a decade ago, much research is funded or declined based on corporate $$ and interests. Depending on which school you're at and I haven't been actually read the text of the ruling that bans the CDC but it may include academic institutions who receive fed$$ from allowing that research as well... and that would be a lot of colleges and universities in this country.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
8. It was never a ban in the usual meaning of the word, but rather a proscription
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:20 PM
Nov 2015

on advocacy inserted into the appropriation bill for the CDC coupled with some (temporary, albeit obviously pointed and threatening) removal of funding. CDC interpreted those action as a full-on ban on research. Here's the text of the 'ban'

“None of the funds made available for injury prevention and control at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention may be used to advocate or promote gun control.”

And here's an article from the Washington Post that gives a decent background...
 

Crystalite

(164 posts)
2. I like MOM, but why just gun violence? Why not all forms of violence?
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:29 PM
Nov 2015

Gun violence levels are of epidemic proportions and we absolutely have to reign it in, decrease the numbers of guns out there and strictly reduce sales of new guns and more closely monitor resale, and much more.

But I worry just a bit that by placing so much emphasis on the guns we are giving a pass to the users, the violent people who use them.

Is there a way we could declare violence as the public health problem and then have subdivisions?

Gun violence; domestic violence; suicides, criminal violence (committed during acts of robbery, burglary).

I think by looking at these other forms along with gun violence, we might find more lasting solutions and garner more support.

JMHO

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elleng

(130,974 posts)
7. This is a letter to the editor from an emergency physician who met O'Malley and wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:07 PM
Nov 2015

'In spite of a great deal of opposition he was able to ban assault weapons. I was able to speak with Gov. O'Malley afterwards and made the point that as an emergency physician I viewed gun violence as a public health issue. He agreed that this was not about ideology this is about public health.'

GOT IT???

postatomic

(1,771 posts)
12. I agree with Governor O'Malley.... 110%
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:46 PM
Nov 2015

And I think this is how you take on the NRA. This country has some fucked up priorities.

It is a public health issue. Isn't that how the CDC views it?

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