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applegrove

(118,696 posts)
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:08 PM Nov 2015

Hillary Clinton to unveil major jobs and infrastructure spending proposal

Hillary Clinton to unveil major jobs and infrastructure spending proposal

by Abby Phillip at the Washington Post

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-to-unveil-major-jobs-and-infrastructure-spending-proposal/2015/11/28/37d19c3e-95f9-11e5-a2d6-f57908580b1f_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-low_clintonjobs8pm:homepage/story

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Hillary Clinton will unveil the largest plank of her economic agenda in the coming weeks, proposing hundreds of billions of dollars in spending, primarily on infrastructure projects, according to campaign aides.

At a campaign event in Boston on Sunday, Clinton will preview her infrastructure proposal, and over the course of several weeks she plans to outline the remainder of her jobs plan, which calls for investments in manufacturing, clean energy and research funding.

The proposals constitute the largest amount of spending that the campaign has outlined thus far — exceeding the $350 billion that Clinton has proposed for a college affordability plan — all aimed at creating what the campaign calls higher-paying, ­middle-class jobs.


“Investing in infrastructure makes tremendous sense, both because it creates jobs that pay above median wages and because it improves overall productivity, which leads to higher incomes across the broader economy,” said Jake Sullivan, senior policy adviser for the Clinton campaign

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Hillary Clinton to unveil major jobs and infrastructure spending proposal (Original Post) applegrove Nov 2015 OP
I'll read it. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #1
Riddle Me This - How Will This Be Any Different Than Similar Bills In Congress Now cantbeserious Nov 2015 #2
The general electorate will get behind it and a wave will hit congress, making it democratic applegrove Nov 2015 #3
Riddle Me This - Which Party Controls Congress cantbeserious Nov 2015 #5
The democrats do when Hillary Clinton leads a presidential campaign that leads to a blowout and applegrove Nov 2015 #7
Nope. That is a pipe dream. Floyd Steinberg Nov 2015 #11
Yep-a-roonie... Hepburn Nov 2015 #22
For comparison's sake: aidbo Nov 2015 #4
But Bernie can't get all democrats to come out and win both houses of congress so it can pass. applegrove Nov 2015 #6
sez you.nt Snotcicles Nov 2015 #10
sezzzzz me too riversedge Nov 2015 #30
Sez me too moobu2 Nov 2015 #34
Sez reality MaggieD Nov 2015 #40
How is she paying for it? Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #8
Exactly. A major escalation in Syria. Now hundreds of billions of dollars in spending on this. EndElectoral Nov 2015 #31
O'Malley calls for larger investment in education, infrastructure. elleng Nov 2015 #9
It's funny watching her try to wear a Sanders mask AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #12
So Bernie invented infrastructure spending? Reallly? applegrove Nov 2015 #13
She adopts his positions, yes AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #14
Wasn't it FDR? Who followed Keynes advice and spent applegrove Nov 2015 #15
She's been calling for an infrastructure bank since 2000. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #21
Interesting link on what exactly is an infrastructure bank since Rahm Emmanuel was behind one. EndElectoral Nov 2015 #36
While Bernie was doing nothing MaggieD Nov 2015 #41
funny post. riversedge Nov 2015 #32
The Clintons know how to get the wheels of prosperity turning. nt oasis Nov 2015 #16
Yeah, they do .. in spite of all the little naysayers. Cha Nov 2015 #17
Damn right they do! workinclasszero Nov 2015 #24
Because? tazkcmo Nov 2015 #29
I have no problem with everyone getting a boost in income. nt oasis Nov 2015 #35
last one through the door as usual Doctor_J Nov 2015 #18
Yes and yes. 99Forever Nov 2015 #19
^^^Ditto^^^ Hepburn Nov 2015 #23
K AND R! The only candidate releasing actual policy proposals. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #20
Other candidates seem to be "phoning-it-in". NurseJackie Nov 2015 #28
Errr... one of the other candidates is, I agree Recursion Nov 2015 #37
Eventually, Hillary will just send people to "https://berniesanders.com/issues/" demwing Nov 2015 #25
I know, lol Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #26
chuckle. Your post is very funny. riversedge Nov 2015 #33
She must have tazkcmo Nov 2015 #27
So like most of Hillary's policies, it probably won't go far enough pinebox Nov 2015 #38
How does she plan on paying for this ? Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #39
Right after she reads Bernie's plan. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #42

applegrove

(118,696 posts)
3. The general electorate will get behind it and a wave will hit congress, making it democratic
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:20 PM
Nov 2015

in 2016. I can dream can't I?

applegrove

(118,696 posts)
7. The democrats do when Hillary Clinton leads a presidential campaign that leads to a blowout and
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:28 PM
Nov 2015

democratic votes across the board. Nominee Trump pisses off every single group with the exception of older white men. He galvanizes democrats to get out and vote in droves. The right finally figures out their livelihoods are just a shell game to the GOP.

 

Floyd Steinberg

(64 posts)
11. Nope. That is a pipe dream.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:35 AM
Nov 2015

Clinton still does not have the crossover appeal, Bernie does and has proven it over and over again.

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)
22. Yep-a-roonie...
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 11:18 AM
Nov 2015

...her large negatives with all facets of the voting public is going to lead to a Dem blowout!



You, IMO, are dreaming. But, I do agree that nominating her is a dream. Unfortunately that dream is a nightmare.

JMHO

 

aidbo

(2,328 posts)
4. For comparison's sake:
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:20 PM
Nov 2015
http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-infrastructure/

BERNIE SANDERS ON INFRASTRUCTURE
America has one of the oldest rail systems in the world — woefully inadequate for a 21st-century society. Many of us may remember the images of the Minneapolis Bridge collapsing in Minnesota in 2007. Bernie sees rebuilding our infrastructure as a way to both create jobs and address the rampant infrastructure problems that are accumulating in our country.

...

How can we afford investing $1 trillion in infrastructure?
We can’t afford not to! According to a report by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), federal spending on transportation and water infrastructure since 2003 has decreased by 19 percent (23 percent with respect to new infrastructure) while only a 6 percent increase in spending on operations and maintenance has developed in its place. According to the aforementioned ACSE report:

24.9 percent of bridges are functionally obsolete or structurally deficient, over which more than 200 million trips are taken daily
42 percent of major urban highways are congested, costing us $101 billion annually and increasing carbon emissions
32 percent of roads are in poor or mediocre condition, which adds up to a cost of $324 per motorist every year

...

What has Bernie specifically proposed to improve our infrastructure?
Bernie recently introduced the The Rebuild America Act of 2015, which would invest $1 trillion over the next 5 years toward rebuilding and expanding on our country’s infrastructure.

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
31. Exactly. A major escalation in Syria. Now hundreds of billions of dollars in spending on this.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 01:25 PM
Nov 2015

And promising no tax increase on the middle class which she sets artificially quite high. She's not going to tax her high class donors, so where's the revenue coming from for this as well as her college plan? The lower class is broke.

My guess is a federal use tax on gasoline which hurts the lower class and middle class as a percentage of income (particulary the lower class) much more than the wealthy. And it is in fact a tax increase on the middle class. Even if such a tax were added it doesn't come close to addressing these revenue expenditures. Tom Brokaw advocated recently such a tax.

Will be interesting to hear how she explains how she pays for it because she also does not advocate cutting entitlements in any meaningful way. Hopefully at the next debate she offers specifics on how revenue can be obtained that pays for these things w/o adding to the debt, or promising something inane like the economy will grow out of any expenditures.

elleng

(130,974 posts)
9. O'Malley calls for larger investment in education, infrastructure.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:36 PM
Nov 2015

'A strong middle class is not a luxury American can afford only when the economy is flush, but the cause of economic growth, former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley said. . .

O’Malley said the country’s economy “is hanging by a thread.”

He blamed the “reckless gambling with our money, with our economy in Wall Street by a very few (that) wiped out the jobs of millions, wiped out the homes of millions and we’re still struggling to recover.”

Despite good news, such as 60 months of month-over-month positive job growth, O’Malley said “the bad news is that people seem more pessimistic about their children’s future now than they did even four years ago.”

Americans can change the direction of the economy and country by making better choices. As governor of Maryland, O’Malley said, he chose to invest in the state and its people rather than “join the ranks of right-wing ideologues in some other states who tried to cut their way to prosperity.”

“Instead we did more to educate our children” by increasing school funding and not raising college tuition for four years.

“We made our public schools the best in country “not by doing less, but buy doing more” and invested in infrastructure — “not only water and wastewater, but in roads and transit, school construction.”

He concluded with a moral imperative to “make the dream true again.”

O’Malley called for raising the minimum wage, expanding Social Security and collective bargaining rights. Making it easier for people to vote and doing more to educate future generations.

“It means we should invest more in our country so our country can give more back more to us and to our children and to our grandchildren,” he said. “And yes, it means we should stand up to powerful wealth special interests who nearly wrecked out country in the Great Recession and will wreck it again if we don’t put in place the rules, the regulations and the enforcement that will keep other people from gambling with our children’s future, with our nation’s economy and with our money.”'

http://www.kcrg.com/subject/news/omalley-calls-for-larger-investment-in-education-infrastructure-20150321

We Need to Invest in Infrastructure.

'Yesterday, joined and supported by business leaders and CEOs from across Maryland, I testified before the Maryland General Assembly on the need to invest in infrastructure today to create jobs and move forward with needed maintenance and repair projects rebuilding our roads, bridges and other transit systems.'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gov-martin-omalley/we-need-to-invest-in-infr_b_1347197.html

A JOBS AGENDA FOR OUR RENEWABLE ENERGY FUTURE

'As a nation, we have made great strides toward becoming energy independent. Now is the time to accelerate that progress. The future of our country and our planet depend on it.

Today, we are in the midst of an extraordinary transition from one energy regime to a new one.

New technologies have put a clean energy, energy independent future within reach – while the threat of climate change, and the urgent need for new middle-class jobs, makes it imperative that we aggressively pursue it. The fact is, there is no either/or choice between our prosperity and our environment – that we can create a future where there are more good-paying jobs, or a future with a healthy environment, but not both.

The reality is the two goals are indivisible. And it is time to make clean energy and climate change a top national priority. That’s because:

We have a moral obligation to act immediately and aggressively to stop climate change.
Clean energy represents the biggest business and job creation opportunity we’ve seen in a hundred years.
Ending fossil fuel use is a public health imperative, and would extend the lives of 200,000 Americans each year.
Reliance on local, renewable energy sources means a safer, more stable world.'

https://martinomalley.com/policy/clean-energy-future/

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
12. It's funny watching her try to wear a Sanders mask
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:43 AM
Nov 2015

Trying to 'triangulate' him. So insincere, and in doing so she admits by default that he is the better candidate.

She should just endorse him and stop with the gamesmanship.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
14. She adopts his positions, yes
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 01:34 AM
Nov 2015

Depending on which direction the wind happens to be blowing at any given moment.

I will never forget her shaking her head 'yes' as Sanders said we need to completely get rid of the private prison industry. Priceless moment, because they work for her campaign.

applegrove

(118,696 posts)
15. Wasn't it FDR? Who followed Keynes advice and spent
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 01:40 AM
Nov 2015

money building stuff to help with jobs and wages?

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
41. While Bernie was doing nothing
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 03:22 PM
Nov 2015

I think one of the problems here is that some folks don't really have a firm grasp on political history. They never started paying attention until this year.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
24. Damn right they do!
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:59 PM
Nov 2015

The highest paying union job with great benefits I ever had was when Bill was president!

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
29. Because?
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 01:21 PM
Nov 2015

Could it because the ones that get the wheels turning own those wheels? So you folks actually believe that the Titans Of Industry are responsive to the Clintons because they are such good friends and ,gosh darn it, they like them! Or maybe it's because they know their own wheels will be greased much better than the rickety little training wheels of American labor.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
28. Other candidates seem to be "phoning-it-in".
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 01:20 PM
Nov 2015

Their hastily written and high-level-overview policy statements lacking depth and detail, remind me of how some unmotivated adolescents wait until the final weekend before the book report is due, and on Saturday night, they'll finally start reading the Cliffs Notes. (If anyone remembers what that is.)

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
25. Eventually, Hillary will just send people to "https://berniesanders.com/issues/"
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 01:13 PM
Nov 2015

for updates on her policies

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
38. So like most of Hillary's policies, it probably won't go far enough
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 01:44 PM
Nov 2015

and leave roads looking like this

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