2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumEvery Bill and Hillary Clinton speaking fee since 2013 - Follow the money
Here is your daily dose of ridiculous. HRC will never break the banks up. She earns way to much speaking to them. All of her and hubby Bills speeches, to whom and the redonkulous fees they receive.
Since 2013 Bill Clinton has been paid $26.6 million for 94 speeches; Hillary's grand total is slightly less: $21.7 million for 92 private appearances.
the disclosure omits an unknown number of speeches that the Clintons delivered while directing the payment or honoraria to the Clinton Foundation, despite instructions on the and guidance from the U.S. Office of Government Ethics, saying that honoraria directed to a charity should be reported.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-03/every-hillary-and-bill-clinton-speech-2013-fees
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)"Still, as readers will note, even the "modest" data that Hillary chose to share is quite stunning.
We hope it will surprise nobody that the bulk of speeches were bought and paid for by Wall Street and affiliated "financial entities" because that's what hollow populist pandering is all about - pretending to be an "everyday American" while getting paid tens of millions by Wall Street and America's biggest corporations."
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)cut it out or no..........to Wall Street. Well we shall wait and see I guess
WillyT
(72,631 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)public figure you can think of...
This is not illegal, even if you want to think it is.
What a great way to raise money for the CGI!
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Why don't you post Carter's and Gore's fees and venues. I would love to see the comparison.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Gore doesn't speak to banks and charges about 40% of what Hillary does.
Dumbya's list would probably look pretty similar to Hillarys, banks, banks, banks..
I can't believe you put 'dumbya' in the list with Hillary, Carter and Gore. The disconnect is stunning.
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)Seriously, you don't believe they are paying her for a half hour speech all that money for nothing in return are you?
MADem
(135,425 posts)They want to be touched by fame, and she is famous. So's her husband!
Usually, it's more than a half hour speech. And the "afters" include those snarky grip and grin pics (quickly, next, stand there-look here, CLICK! Step aside, give your name to Ms. Smith, there; quckly, next, stand there....etc.).
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)Oh, I'll bet you don't, do you?
You think they fart through silk and crap on gold toilets...? Sleep on pallets of money?
If you think it is so awful, and you don't support her, you should be thrilled.
I think her supporters are pleased that she can command such a good price in support of charitable giving, and look askance at people who think there's something wrong with what she's doing, first, or thinking there's some kind of virtue in poverty (there isn't). She's got her priorities in order--she uses her fame to help others.
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)That in no way negates the power of influence that big donors get in terms of access and influence.
When one of these parties pays Clinton an amount, and she "donates" it to her and Bill's foundation, these people who donated/speaker fee will receive preferred access and influence to the Clintons. If the firm paying the speaker fee wanted to donate to a charity they could readily do so without going through the Clinton foundation and donate to causes they believe in. It's not hard to do. But instead, they go through this process of paying Hilary Clinton a speaking fee. For what purpose? Simple. Access and Influence. They are not so incapable that these businesses couldn't have donated on their own.
You really don't get this?
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Last edited Wed Nov 25, 2015, 04:23 PM - Edit history (1)
You raised it as relevant. It would be good to see it for comparison.
MADem
(135,425 posts)You do know he gives speeches for a living? Writes books, too. He's not living in poverty on a pension.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Guess you were just blowin smoke. It isn't the fact if paid speeches. It's the amount and the audience.
MADem
(135,425 posts)It's not "the amount and the audience" -- just because YOU say so.
It's where that dough ends up.
smh!
morningfog
(18,115 posts)You point is relevant and to provide the list.
I can only surmise the data does not help the Clintons or you would do more than his run your mouth and try to divert the conversation to me.
MADem
(135,425 posts)You can "surmise" all the live long day, but that doesn't mean a thang!
When you finish your homework, make sure you break out what percentage stays in the bank accounts of those speakers you are researching, and what percentage goes to charity.
Get going--you want to discuss it? You need to bring it to the table. I'll wait!
See, I think Clinton giving speeches and donating all that dough to charity is a GOOD thing. She's using her fame to help others. That's how she rolls.
She's a good woman--and she's gonna be our next President!
morningfog
(18,115 posts)You got nothing.
She uses her positions of power to speak to the beneficiaries of her policies. She is to talking to bankers about income inequalities.
You mentioned Gore and Carter. Go ahead, oh brilliant one, tell us who they speak to, about what and what they charge. You acted like it mattered and now back away. Why? Because you either are pulling shut out of your ass or are embarrassed about what it will show.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I think it's great that she uses her position of power to get money from those bastards, and she gives that money to charity. See--that's what I've got.
I've also got someone on fricken DU trying to tell me that someone donating all the dough they get from speaking fees to charity is a "bad" thing!
Seems like she's the real "Robin Hood" in this equation.
You want to know how much money Gore and Carter give to charity, you go on and look it up. I'll tell you this--I'll bet Clinton has both of 'em beat. Come on, now, prove me wrong--if you can.
I don't think you can do it.
If you think I'll be "embarrassed" surely you can get a move on and stick it to me, can't you? What's the hold up? Don't you want to 'win' this conversation?
Are you her speechwriter too, since you purport to know the content of her speeches....?
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Try to follow.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)This doesn't even count the campaign donations that many of these same Wall Street interests have given her:
This the corporate-corrupt nonsense that we have to deal with from Republicans. Why does Clinton bring this corruption into our Democratic party?
It's depressing!
polly7
(20,582 posts)EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)Wonder how much the guy made who had to cleanup before and afterward? Hope he got the 12 per hour minimum wage she's proposing.
Some of these groups astound me. I expected the Goldman's and Morgan Stanley's. It is who she is. but how and why does the budget of the American Camping Assoc. come up with 260K to hear Hilary Clinton speak?
denverbill
(11,489 posts)Accenture buys off Democrats and Republicans.
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)denverbill
(11,489 posts)I've lost many coworkers to this already and am losing my job soon as well.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)And practiced in front of those she would reward when she made it.
MADem
(135,425 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)how impressive will it be when they come knocking on the door to ask for favors.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)You're getting all worked-up over nothing.
think
(11,641 posts)lying to congress and bilking their clients. Hillary prefers to cash in instead....
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)think
(11,641 posts)In case you want to have an actual discussion.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)think
(11,641 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)And the monsters exist only in your imagination. Everything will turn out fine. But if that's what floats your boat or rings your bell, have at it. Bernie's fans are manufacturing their own distress. It's difficult for me to take such things seriously.
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)They don't care that she lacks any moral or ethical center and that she changes her positions faster than any politician in recent memory. Or that she is easily the most divisive and polarizing figure in American politics since Richard Nixon, whom she closely resembles.
She could kill and eat a live puppy on network TV and they would still find a way to rationalize it.
Their expectations are very high and they are in for a big letdown in the not so distant future. She may be able to buy the nomination of the democrat party but she will never move into the WH.
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)The other for for all those who think it's a game.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)TM99
(8,352 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)*Income, not net worth, mind you.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)think
(11,641 posts)story if one looks behind the veil....
artislife
(9,497 posts)...it just represents who she is as a human.
Elect Bernie, because who you are, matters.