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PatrickforO

(14,577 posts)
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 11:37 AM Nov 2015

Will Clinton turn out to be 'Ms Wall Street' if elected? Seems she's not fooling anyone...

on Wall Street, that is. As one Wall Street lawyer put it, “If it turns out to be Jeb vs. Hillary, we would love that and either outcome would be fine.”

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/11/23/who-impugns-hillarys-integrity

Here's an excerpt:

Last year, William D. Cohan, author of Money and Power: How Goldman Sachs Came to Rule the World, interviewed dozens of Wall Street’s leaders on their reaction to Clinton’s newfound populism: “Down on Wall Street they don’t believe it for a minute. While the finance industry does genuinely hate Warren, the big bankers love Clinton, and by and large they badly want her to be president. Many of the rich and powerful in the financial industry—among them, Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein, Morgan Stanley CEO James Gorman, Tom Nides, a powerful vice chairman at Morgan Stanley, and the heads of JPMorganChase and Bank of America—consider Clinton a pragmatic problem-solver not prone to populist rhetoric. To them, she’s someone who gets the idea that we all benefit if Wall Street and American business thrive. What about her forays into fiery rhetoric? They dismiss it quickly as political maneuvers. None of them think she really means her populism.”

<snip>

Inevitably, the big money going from Wall Street into the Clinton campaign reinforces doubts about the strength of her reform promises. But it isn’t Sanders or O’Malley who impugn her integrity; it is her Wall Street donors themselves. They are sophisticated, cynical and paying attention. And they are confident her new-found populism is a campaign posture, not a real position.

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Will Clinton turn out to be 'Ms Wall Street' if elected? Seems she's not fooling anyone... (Original Post) PatrickforO Nov 2015 OP
One of the few times I would actually pangaia Nov 2015 #1
"Inevitably, the big money going from Wall Street into the Clinton campaign reinforces doubts about rhett o rick Nov 2015 #2
To be fair, theoretically her new found populism could be real... That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #29
Even her "new found populism" isn't worth much. All of her social justice stands are soft. rhett o rick Nov 2015 #30
Does a cat have an ass? NorthCarolina Nov 2015 #3
Turn out to be? When hasn't she been? CharlotteVale Nov 2015 #4
Thank you!!! SoapBox Nov 2015 #6
"Cut it out! " beltanefauve Nov 2015 #28
You beat me to it! TBF Nov 2015 #21
Bernie should use actual quotes from Wall Street. tecelote Nov 2015 #5
He could do that because the article uses names. Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #12
Perfect. Couldn't be more effective. tecelote Nov 2015 #14
No..She will be called Madame President. n/t asuhornets Nov 2015 #7
Working hard to protect the profits of her donor friends. Cassiopeia Nov 2015 #15
And I sure Goldman Sachs will be very polite.... daleanime Nov 2015 #20
They're PAYING attention snort Nov 2015 #8
Somehow because the plutocrat is a female it makes it all better. jalan48 Nov 2015 #9
That's what the Hillionaires repeat hifiguy Nov 2015 #19
Yes, though I haven't noticed that she's not close to Wall St now! Main reason sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #10
In both debates, Hillary Clinton said that her proposed banking regulations Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #13
and bernie disagreed with her both times. retrowire Nov 2015 #24
Looks like with all the Labor Unions supporting her... Historic NY Nov 2015 #11
More "boots on the ground"... AlbertCat Nov 2015 #16
Wow! This is huge, breaking news! Bleacher Creature Nov 2015 #17
You've noticed it too? I'm waiting for the puppies in the wood chipper story. Laser102 Nov 2015 #22
I'm OK with this . . . Gamecock Lefty Nov 2015 #18
Do you agree with her proposed banking regulations Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #26
we all pretty much know that the hillarians are actually republicans. Doctor_J Nov 2015 #27
don't cha love how anti Bernie posts get rec'd retrowire Nov 2015 #23
They remember her 'partnership presidency' with Bill cprise Nov 2015 #25
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
2. "Inevitably, the big money going from Wall Street into the Clinton campaign reinforces doubts about
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 12:09 PM
Nov 2015

the strength of her reform promises. But it isn’t Sanders or O’Malley who impugn her integrity; it is her Wall Street donors themselves. They are sophisticated, cynical and paying attention. And they are confident her new-found populism is a campaign posture, not a real position."

When the crooks come right out and say that they believe her "new-found populism is a campaign posture, not a real position.", why would Democrats back her? She doesn't even do a very good job of pretending to be supportive of the People.

Maybe the answer is here, http://www.democraticunderground.com/127710250

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
29. To be fair, theoretically her new found populism could be real...
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 06:12 AM
Nov 2015

of course, theoretically I could be shot at by Bosnian snipers on my way to get the mail this morning.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
30. Even her "new found populism" isn't worth much. All of her social justice stands are soft.
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 10:35 AM
Nov 2015

She doesn't really want to help college students with debt problems. She is willing to lose the left to get support from the right.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
6. Thank you!!!
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:09 PM
Nov 2015

Any talk of her cracking down on the Banksters is a joke.

She and Willie love their BIG money and BIG Banksters.

TBF

(32,067 posts)
21. You beat me to it!
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:08 PM
Nov 2015

That was the exact thing I was thinking. From serving on the board of Walmart, to collecting money from their legal friends for Bill's Legal Fund (this was in the 90s in Wash DC - I was at the firm where they held their meetings), to Chelsea marrying her very own investment banker. The family is entrenched in Wall Street.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
5. Bernie should use actual quotes from Wall Street.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:09 PM
Nov 2015

It's not a negative attack if he quotes the people that believe in and support Hillary.

It's only negative from our perspective. 'Those of us that listen to her rhetoric and know it to be false.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
12. He could do that because the article uses names.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:34 PM
Nov 2015

A Bernie Sanders ad could go, "What do banking executives expect of Hillary Clinton? Camden Fine, head of the Independent Community Bankers of America, says, “She gonna all of a sudden become Mrs. Wall Street if she’s elected."

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
19. That's what the Hillionaires repeat
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:58 PM
Nov 2015

Endlessly. 24/7. And it is self-deluding fannish horseshit. Couldn't be more obvious.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
13. In both debates, Hillary Clinton said that her proposed banking regulations
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:35 PM
Nov 2015

...are tougher than Bernie Sanders'.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
24. and bernie disagreed with her both times.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:21 PM
Nov 2015

Hillary: We need to go after the shadow banks!

Bernie: We need to go after all the wall st corruption.

guess which statement helps the most?

lmao Hillary in the white house would be like, "look shadow banks, cut it out! see Americans? I'm handling those nasty shadow banks! oh, the big banks? but they're my friendssss!!!"

XD

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
11. Looks like with all the Labor Unions supporting her...
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:32 PM
Nov 2015

maybe she can pry some of the Wall Street cash from them to fund some public works projects. Investing in America pays off.

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
17. Wow! This is huge, breaking news!
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:51 PM
Nov 2015

Maybe there should be four or five new threads on this article!

And please, whatvever you do, anyone who starts a new thread needs to be sure to pass this off as some sort of news story and not simply the speculation of the people interviewed . . .

Laser102

(816 posts)
22. You've noticed it too? I'm waiting for the puppies in the wood chipper story.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:15 PM
Nov 2015

They've accused her of everything else. Fortunately, very few people are buying into it anymore.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
26. Do you agree with her proposed banking regulations
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:07 PM
Nov 2015

...or do you disagree with them but don't mind since she may be insincere?

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
23. don't cha love how anti Bernie posts get rec'd
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:17 PM
Nov 2015

by the same twenty two something users and the pro bernie posts always receive the most recs?

feelthebern.

cprise

(8,445 posts)
25. They remember her 'partnership presidency' with Bill
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:28 PM
Nov 2015

Its easy to conclude she would come into the Oval Office with the same priorities she has displayed not only during Bill's presidency, but in her role as Senator.

Its a forgone conclusion she is trying to mislead. Just look at her BS response during the last debate, trying to hide behind 9-11.

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