2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWill Clinton turn out to be 'Ms Wall Street' if elected? Seems she's not fooling anyone...
on Wall Street, that is. As one Wall Street lawyer put it, If it turns out to be Jeb vs. Hillary, we would love that and either outcome would be fine.
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/11/23/who-impugns-hillarys-integrity
Here's an excerpt:
Last year, William D. Cohan, author of Money and Power: How Goldman Sachs Came to Rule the World, interviewed dozens of Wall Streets leaders on their reaction to Clintons newfound populism: Down on Wall Street they dont believe it for a minute. While the finance industry does genuinely hate Warren, the big bankers love Clinton, and by and large they badly want her to be president. Many of the rich and powerful in the financial industryamong them, Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein, Morgan Stanley CEO James Gorman, Tom Nides, a powerful vice chairman at Morgan Stanley, and the heads of JPMorganChase and Bank of Americaconsider Clinton a pragmatic problem-solver not prone to populist rhetoric. To them, shes someone who gets the idea that we all benefit if Wall Street and American business thrive. What about her forays into fiery rhetoric? They dismiss it quickly as political maneuvers. None of them think she really means her populism.
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Inevitably, the big money going from Wall Street into the Clinton campaign reinforces doubts about the strength of her reform promises. But it isnt Sanders or OMalley who impugn her integrity; it is her Wall Street donors themselves. They are sophisticated, cynical and paying attention. And they are confident her new-found populism is a campaign posture, not a real position.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)believe what these guys say.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)the strength of her reform promises. But it isnt Sanders or OMalley who impugn her integrity; it is her Wall Street donors themselves. They are sophisticated, cynical and paying attention. And they are confident her new-found populism is a campaign posture, not a real position."
When the crooks come right out and say that they believe her "new-found populism is a campaign posture, not a real position.", why would Democrats back her? She doesn't even do a very good job of pretending to be supportive of the People.
Maybe the answer is here, http://www.democraticunderground.com/127710250
That Guy 888
(1,214 posts)of course, theoretically I could be shot at by Bosnian snipers on my way to get the mail this morning.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)She doesn't really want to help college students with debt problems. She is willing to lose the left to get support from the right.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)eom
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Any talk of her cracking down on the Banksters is a joke.
She and Willie love their BIG money and BIG Banksters.
beltanefauve
(1,784 posts)TBF
(32,067 posts)That was the exact thing I was thinking. From serving on the board of Walmart, to collecting money from their legal friends for Bill's Legal Fund (this was in the 90s in Wash DC - I was at the firm where they held their meetings), to Chelsea marrying her very own investment banker. The family is entrenched in Wall Street.
tecelote
(5,122 posts)It's not a negative attack if he quotes the people that believe in and support Hillary.
It's only negative from our perspective. 'Those of us that listen to her rhetoric and know it to be false.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)A Bernie Sanders ad could go, "What do banking executives expect of Hillary Clinton? Camden Fine, head of the Independent Community Bankers of America, says, She gonna all of a sudden become Mrs. Wall Street if shes elected."
tecelote
(5,122 posts)asuhornets
(2,405 posts)Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)when they call her to heel.
snort
(2,334 posts)jalan48
(13,870 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Endlessly. 24/7. And it is self-deluding fannish horseshit. Couldn't be more obvious.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)not to support her!
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)...are tougher than Bernie Sanders'.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)Hillary: We need to go after the shadow banks!
Bernie: We need to go after all the wall st corruption.
guess which statement helps the most?
lmao Hillary in the white house would be like, "look shadow banks, cut it out! see Americans? I'm handling those nasty shadow banks! oh, the big banks? but they're my friendssss!!!"
XD
Historic NY
(37,451 posts)maybe she can pry some of the Wall Street cash from them to fund some public works projects. Investing in America pays off.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)... should make them some more money!
Bleacher Creature
(11,257 posts)Maybe there should be four or five new threads on this article!
And please, whatvever you do, anyone who starts a new thread needs to be sure to pass this off as some sort of news story and not simply the speculation of the people interviewed . . .
Laser102
(816 posts)They've accused her of everything else. Fortunately, very few people are buying into it anymore.
Gamecock Lefty
(700 posts)I work for a Wall Street company. If Madam President has my back, all the better.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)...or do you disagree with them but don't mind since she may be insincere?
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Thanks for verifying that.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)by the same twenty two something users and the pro bernie posts always receive the most recs?
feelthebern.
cprise
(8,445 posts)Its easy to conclude she would come into the Oval Office with the same priorities she has displayed not only during Bill's presidency, but in her role as Senator.
Its a forgone conclusion she is trying to mislead. Just look at her BS response during the last debate, trying to hide behind 9-11.