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Benefit Society
Rick Santorum told a gay man in Fulton, Missouri Friday afternoon that he didnt deserve the privilege of marriage because his same-sex relationship does not benefit society in the same way that opposite-sex marriage does. Marriage, Santorum explained is an intrinsic good in which gay and lesbian people should not be allowed to partake in:
SANTORUM: Youre not entitled to special treatment under the law
[Marriage is] not a right, its something that has existed since the beginning of human history as an institution where men and women come together for the purposes of forming a natural relationship as God made it to be. And for the purposes of having children and continuing that civilization. It is an intrinsic good
And as a result of that, we extend a privilege. We extend certain privileges to people who do that because we want to encourage that behavior. [...]
Two people who may like each other or may love each other who are same-sex, is that a special relationship? Yes it is, but it is not the same relationship that benefits society like a marriage between a man and a woman.
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/02/03/418688/santorum-gay-marriage-privilege/
MADem
(135,425 posts)His remarks are so idiotic, they're ludicrous.
There comes a point in time when you realize that people who explosively spout that kind of hateful shit are just not playing with a full deck, that they are stupid nitwits who do not live in the real world, and the only thing to do is point at them and laugh and mock them for the buffoons that they are.
As for benefiting society, all I can tell you is this--I've gotten more help from my gay neighbors (thanks for the jump start last month) than I have EVER gotten from Rick Dumbfuck Santorum.
I'd say the one who is a waste of oxygen is the moronic bigot making the comment, not the people he's trying and failing to trash.
William769
(55,147 posts)But it scares the Hell out of me of his following especially since he's trying to run for President.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I think his showing in the polls will keep him from realizing his ambition, but he could still end up as the number two (how appropriate) nitwit on the GOP ticket!
xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)of history? Which 'history would that be? Does that include ancient Egypt? Greece? or any of those other godless creatures that procreated w/o rickie's God's blessing?
What a relic!
sarge43
(28,942 posts)what?
We shouldn't have married? We're not intrinstically good? We impede the advancement of civilization?
When What'shisname and I applied for our marriage licence, we were asked two questions. (1) Were we of the age of consent, (2) Were either of us legally married to anyone. We were not asked about our ability or desire to reproduce. We were not required to continue civilization nor required to have any member of any clergy perform the wedding ceremony. I should think a same-sex couple could also answer those two questions the same way we did -- yes and no.
In September we'll be married 30 years which I observe is a lot longer than a lot of people managed who were married by the clergy and reproduced like bunnies.
This member of an opposite sex marriage sans spawn says you're talking out your foamy ass, Ricky.
Warpy
(111,316 posts)Fortunately, there is nothing less possible to a stop than an idea whose time has come. It's only a matter of time until we rid ourselves of the Roberts court and we get the civil right to marry extended to all consenting adults.
Stable couples and families always benefit society no matter what the packaging or the plumbing of the partners might be. Marriage elevates a life partner to the status of first degree relative and that confers human rights that can't be obtained any other way.
Fortunately, since gay marriage has been recognized in several states for some time now and the sky has not fallen and Armageddon has not occurred, more and more people are abandoning Santorum and the god he created in his own image and favoring the right thing to do, which is extending civil rights to all of us.
pamela
(3,469 posts)Wish someone would ask Rick that question.
Cirque du So-What
(25,962 posts)those who are sterile/infertile? They obviously cannot reproduce on their own, and in Mr. Frothy Mix's loony world, they would be denied access to technological marvels that could enable them to have children by other means. Guess he'd throw all those incapable of self-replication under the bus as well.
Grateful for Hope
(39,320 posts)I'd love to hear someone ask him that.
sarge43
(28,942 posts)Not only to same sex couples, also to opposite sex couples who want children, but can't have them. Implying that their marriages are somehow something less than those that do have them.
He's a vicious creature.
Grateful for Hope
(39,320 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)What if people marry someone they know is infertile?
What a joke this guy is.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)And no, I don't think any of "his" kids were sired by him.
Journeyman
(15,036 posts)maybe Gingrich (or better yet, an historian) can explain what possible benefit those two provided society. . .
morningfog
(18,115 posts)have been shot down. This one is just as bigoted and homophobic, but he thinks it cleaner.
He is disgusting.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)That is all.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Jennicut
(25,415 posts)With procreation? Ugg. I am a straight married woman with two children but how am I benefiting society in a way a gay couple would not? I just want to punch that man sometimes. Luckily, his poll #'s are so low he is almost meaningless. Almost.
_ed_
(1,734 posts)I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman. Now, for me as a Christian
it is also a sacred union. Gods in the mix.
I wonder who said that?
Yavin4
(35,445 posts)Or how did Newt's 3 marriages benefit society?
classof56
(5,376 posts)To which I say--thank goodness! Imagine how beneficial to society their spawn would have been. I cringe at the thought...
treestar
(82,383 posts)Or it is to him because it's the only way he can differentiate.
Gay couples can raise children too.
JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)Republicans don't deserve to runf for president, because they never benefit society.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Obama3_16
(157 posts)or he does, and he just wants to say as many destructive things as he can before he calls it quits. I smell a new book or two coming from this dipshit and his spouse.