Hillary is Microsoft, Bernie is Apple. Discuss.

[reformist2]

It's the classic matchup between the dominant but clunky status-quo product that everyone buys because, well, everyone just buys it, and the innovative new game-changer product that people don't initially buy because nobody else is buying it - yet.

But given time, look what happens...

[RandySF]

1. Nope. Bernie is Packard Bell.

[NurseJackie]

6. Oopf!

[ismnotwasm]

14. Hahahhaha!

[rjsquirrel]

38. Lol

Or a Compaq 286.

[brooklynite]

2. Actually, most people at Hillary HQ use Macintoshes...so do I

[Cali_Democrat]

3. So Hillary is the better stock at the moment

Apple is up 9.92% year to date while Microsoft is up 19.44% year to date.

Discuss....

[Attorney in Texas]

4. Clinton is Apple (overpriced, corporate controlled content); Sanders is Android (appeals to the 99%)

[jrandom421]

8. So that explains

the Stagefright exploit in all of Android.


http://www.androidcentral.com/stagefright

[Attorney in Texas]

11. It explains Apple exploitation of underpaid labor

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2015/04/apple-watch-sweatshop-scandal-death-factory-worker-body-discovered-suspected-suicide/

[mythology]

48. Unfortunately all of the major cell phone makers use that sort of labor

http://www.thewire.com/technology/2012/09/these-samsung-factories-sound-bad-foxconn/56542/

[rjsquirrel]

39. 99%?

In the US Apple iOS devices *far* outsell Andoid (and in the PC space it sells more units than any other vendor too now).

For phones, Android sells more units globally (because it's free and thus used by many hardware vendors). But globally iOS accounts for more profit from hardware sales and advertising revenue.


The 99% have iPhones. Look around you. Even in poor communities.

The idea that Apple makes rich peoples' toys is just wrong on the factual evidence. Poor people love Apple gear too, in the US at least.

Ask an inner city kid what s/he wants for Christmas. The answer will not be "Android running on generic hardware." Any good Android phone costs the same as an iPhone anyway.

[msanthrope]

5. Jeebus that explains the iWatch fail.....nt

[rjsquirrel]

41. It hasn't failed

People said that about the first two gens of iPhone too.

Watch and learn.

[Starry Messenger]

7. Considering what Apple did to iTunes this year, you might want to rethink.

Even I might make the next phone an Android.

[tularetom]

9. That was a good analogy 30 years ago

Now, not so much.

[Gregorian]

10. I like where Bernie's ideas eventually lead us.

Right off the wiki page for market socialism.

A socialist form of organisation would eliminate controlling hierarchies so that only a hierarchy based on technical knowledge in the workplace remains. Every member would have decision-making power in the firm and would be able to participate in establishing its overall policy objectives.

[rjsquirrel]

42. Yeah and?

That idea is anathema to a majority of American voters.

Bernie will not be winning. Get used to it. And I'm a supporter.

[Wilms]

12. Hillary is Windows and Mac

Bernie is Linux.

[Skidmore]

13. Aww, look...a hackneyed metaphor.

The very best kind.

[lunamagica]

15. Never been able to afford anything Apple. It's for the Elites, the rich. eom

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. I am posting on a Lenovo that cost $300.00

I couldn't dream of affording an Apple...

[rjsquirrel]

43. You get

what you pay for.

[rjsquirrel]

34. That is bullshite

Apple hardware has the lowest total cost of ownership in many segments. You just don't need or want quality.

[Maedhros]

16. Absolutely not.

Hillary is 'Coke', Republicans are 'Pepsi', Bernie Sanders is a person with conviction.

[rjsquirrel]

35. More like diet ginger ale

Quenches your thirst in the moe not but will never win a taste test.

[MineralMan]

17. Bernie is Kaypro.

Still running WordStar on CP/M

[Betty Karlson]

31. Then Mrs. Clinton is trading in more and more of her Windows

to look more like WordStar. She's the one jettysoning positions like a sinking ship ditches its cargo.

[rjsquirrel]

36. Lol!

Exactly right.

I was going to suggest Bernie us like a 1982 DEC mainframe.

[Buns_of_Fire]

18. What I REALLY need to know is which one the Burger King endorses.

Creepy damned plastic-faced prevert.

[demwing]

20. Bernie is Linux. Discuss...

[JonLeibowitz]

26. Bernie is Linux + WYSIWIG. Agreed.

[Alfresco]

21. Hillary is a grape, Bernie is a raisin.

[lunamagica]

22. LOL!

[bravenak]

24. Yoooouuuu!

[bravenak]

23. Bernie is dial up.

Hillary is wifi. Discuss.

[riversedge]

28. ha ha Nothing to discuss; Your contrasts says it all.

[bravenak]

29. I actually imagine him using it.

Plugging the phone in to his computer.

[MFrohike]

25. Wow, that's terrible

I mean really terrible. Don't feel too bad. Even though your comparison is the worst in the thread, you had really tough competition. This clearly isn't a thread full of ad writers.

[JonLeibowitz]

27. I agree with the first part, in that Hillary can definitely be bought and paid for.

Bernie is mostly illiquid -- NOT for sale.

[CentralMass]

30. Bernie is "Open Source"

[ericson00]

32. Hillary is Google, Bernie is Alta Vista

[rjsquirrel]

37. Alta Vista?

So Bernie is a washed up and obsolete search engine that got steamrolled by the real pros?

[ericson00]

40. you could say,

just as you could say mixed-market capitalism steam rolled old-style socialism.

[rjsquirrel]

44. You could but

when was the US ever "old style socialist?" Ever.


Bernie supporters appear to live in a historical fantasy. FDR was not a socialist. It sucked worse to be poor or working class in the US in 1937 or 1955 than it does now in real economic terms. There was no golden age. Capitalists have always held the wheel.

Dreaming naive dreams about a past that never existed is a sure path to electoral success. For republicans anyway, who do their own version of this more successfully.

[rjsquirrel]

33. Lol whut?

First, your stereotypes of the two companies are about 15 years out of date.

Second, I'm thinking the woman in the race is more of a challenge to 230 years of status quo than the old white guy.

Third, I'm thinking that this is intentional flame bait: choose a comparison about which internet idiots famously live to fight (even though people who actually work in tech don't know what Apple vs. Microsoft means anymore, it's so old and outdated. -- FYI Apple's biggest rival now is Google, followed by Samsung, and Apple and Microsoft barely compete in the same space in any numbers that matter -- and did you know Apple is fully partnered with IBM for enterprise solutions?) and then use it as a metaphor for the primary.

But what you're really suggesting is that Bernie is like the single most profitable and most well capitalized firm in the world with near monopoly power in some market segments and enough cash to buy a small country outright should they decide to fully relocate.

On the other hand my investment in Apple stock in 1999 has paid for college for my kid. So thanks Apple.

HRC is more like Apple. She's got this thing sewed up. The only question is what color do you want?

[RedCappedBandit]

46. Clinton is Apple, Sanders is Linux.

[Locrian]

47. exactly

Apple / Clinton is over-hyped, fanboi/cult based on perception - pushed by a giant corporation. It's shiny on the outside and keeps coming out with new bells and whistles to keep the $$ coming in. Oh, and it likes spyware and control.

Linux/Bernie takes more effort but is worth it in the long run. More stable, less invasive, free, etc. But sorta geeky and you actually have to know what you're doing.