Hillary 2008: "Since when do Democrats attack one another on universal health care?'"

[Luminous Animal]

[-none]

1. You are assuming that

everyone with a (D) after their name is a Democratic. One cannot ass/u/me that anymore. You have to look at the history of their policies and their take on the issues.

[EndElectoral]

2. That is a good point. Also, she may be evolving on the issue.

[Jarqui]

3. With NAFTA for example, as you can see below, that is problematic with Hillary's

chameleon flip-flopping tendencies to say whatever might get her support at the time

It kind of defies evolving when she flat out denies taking the original position in the first place.

[Jarqui]

4. The flyer says

"Hillary's health care plan forces everyone to buy insurance, even if you can't afford it"

Politifact found relative to the flyer she had in her hand and was complaining about:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/apr/21/barack-obama/her-mandate-doesnt-mention-garnishment/

"But her plan does have an individual mandate — every person in the country will be required to have health insurance one way or another. (Obama's plan has a mandate for children only.) Clinton hasn't specified how she will enforce the mandate."

"Shame on you Barack Obama" for pointing out in a flyer what was true with her healthcare policy ??

This time around 2008 stuff like her lying about her position on NAFTA (above), snipers in Bosnia or the above rattles my confidence in taking her at her word.

[bvar22]

5. I don't believe HIllary is "evolving" that fast.

She mutates faster than that "girl" in the Science Fiction Movie Species.

[Recursion]

6. And yet DUers are attacking her universal health care plan pretty savagely

Which is part of the larger problem that people have forgotten that single payer is just one particular means to universal healthcare of many, and not a very popular one worldwide.

[Luminous Animal]

7. Yeah. You go with that.

[Doctor_J]

8. she doesn't have a uhc plan

She has a plan for everyone to buy private insurance with 20% guaranteed profits from people whose job it is to pay for as little healthcare as possible. If you think those are the same, I can see why the system got to the disastrous state it's in.

[eridani]

10. It is the choice of the countries that have most recently enacted universal health care-----

--Taiwan and South Korea.

[Adrahil]

9. Universal hea;th coverage is not the same as single payer, though. nt