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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 12:58 PM Nov 2015

David Axelrod: Trump Would be ‘Defeated Handily’ by Clinton in General Election




Q: Let’s talk about Donald Trump. What explains his success in the polls and do you think he could defeat Hillary if they faced off in the general election?

AXELROD: Donald Trump is the perfect anti-Obama, running in a party that has deep antipathy to the president. He is bombastic, impulsive and unrestrained. His kick-ass, call-names style has found an audience, particularly with non-college educated white men, who have responded with enthusiasm to Trump's nativist, anti-immigrant, anti-trade jeremiads. In an era when so much seems out of our control, he is the proverbial strongman, assuring everyone he'll take care of everything that ails us. We have seen such characters in history before. That said, Trump has high negatives among voters overall, and has commanded about 20 to 30 percent of the GOP vote. Current polling matchup notwithstanding, I believe he would be defeated handily in a general election matchup with Hillary, in part because his anti-immigrant rants have left him with negatives among Hispanic Americans approaching 80 percent.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/david-axelrod-trump-defeated-handily-clinton-general-election/story?id=35348253
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David Axelrod: Trump Would be ‘Defeated Handily’ by Clinton in General Election (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 OP
Discussed it here Jarqui Nov 2015 #1
What part of DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #2
You've been posting polls incessantly. What part of the polls Jarqui posted did you not understand? merrily Nov 2015 #3
Another swing and a miss DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #5
LOL! merrily Nov 2015 #6
The paucity of your response is inadequate camouflage for your vacuity of thought. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #8
Yeah, I actually clicked on your links. Congrats on your Thesaurus, LOL! merrily Nov 2015 #13
You said the Vermont independent was running better against Trump than Secretary Of Clinton DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #15
Another weird photo added to your post. Odd. nt Logical Nov 2015 #4
Hillary= The guy standing. Trump= the hapless fellow lying prostrate on the canvas. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #7
And adds nothing. But carry on. I know, ali reminds you of your NY days and fighting a lot. nt Logical Nov 2015 #10
I will give your petty and puerile insults the respect they deserve which is none. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #11
Thanks. I didn't know about his fighting days. Explains a lot. merrily Nov 2015 #14
It seems like you and your associate are picking a fight with me by insulting me ... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #16
Hillary would cause tRump to have a mental breakdown Alfresco Nov 2015 #9
A lot of attacking the messenger in this thread, Alfresco. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #12
It is rather curious. Alfresco Nov 2015 #18
Of course, Alfresco DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #19
No doubt. DCBob Nov 2015 #17
You would think the fact our likely nominee is beating their likely nominee* DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #22
Sarah Palin 2.0 firebrand80 Nov 2015 #20
At first I went out on the proverbial limb and said Trump will never be the GO(PU) nominee. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #21
Saying outlandish things make your numbers go up firebrand80 Nov 2015 #23
I was certain he wouldn't be the nominee but now I am no longer sure. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #24

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
2. What part of
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:06 PM
Nov 2015

What part of "Current polling matchup notwithstanding, I believe he would be defeated handily in a general election matchup with Hillary, in part because his anti-immigrant rants have left him with negatives among Hispanic Americans approaching 80 percent", don't you understand?

If you believe your political analysis is better than that of the architect of Barack Obama's election and re-election there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
3. You've been posting polls incessantly. What part of the polls Jarqui posted did you not understand?
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:13 PM
Nov 2015

Sanders does much better against Trump than Hillary in most jurisdictions and beats Trump in every jurisdiction.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
5. Another swing and a miss
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:20 PM
Nov 2015
You've been posting polls incessantly. What part of the polls Jarqui posted did you not understand? Sanders does much better against Trump than Hillary in most jurisdictions and beats Trump in every jurisdiction.


No, he does not!


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html



http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html


DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
8. The paucity of your response is inadequate camouflage for your vacuity of thought.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:26 PM
Nov 2015
LOL!

-merrily


The paucity of your response is inadequate camouflage for your vacuity of thought.


DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
15. You said the Vermont independent was running better against Trump than Secretary Of Clinton
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:42 PM
Nov 2015

You said the Vermont independent was running better against Trump than Secretary Clinton. I demonstrated that wasn't the case. You then patronized me and I responded in kind. It is what it is.

Maybe in your rarefied milieu you willy nilly insult and patronize people and they meekly defer... But DSB doesn't inhabit your rarefied milieu.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
7. Hillary= The guy standing. Trump= the hapless fellow lying prostrate on the canvas.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:23 PM
Nov 2015

Not a terribly difficult metaphor to grasp.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
11. I will give your petty and puerile insults the respect they deserve which is none.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:32 PM
Nov 2015
And adds nothing. But carry on. I know, ali reminds you of your NY days and fighting a lot. nt

-Logical


I will give your petty and puerile insults the respect they deserve which is none.


Love,
DSB

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
16. It seems like you and your associate are picking a fight with me by insulting me ...
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:45 PM
Nov 2015

It seems like you and your associate are picking a fight with me by insulting me and casting aspersions on my character...If you think for even a moment you can cow me into submission by insulting and disrespecting me I would literally rather get run over by a truck.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
12. A lot of attacking the messenger in this thread, Alfresco.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:36 PM
Nov 2015

Alfresco, why does a fellow Democrat beating a Republican cause some members of this board so much agita?

Alfresco

(1,698 posts)
18. It is rather curious.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:49 PM
Nov 2015

I can't explain it.
I could offer some opinions but that would probably get my post deleted.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
19. Of course, Alfresco
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:55 PM
Nov 2015
It is rather curious. I can't explain it.
I could offer some opinions but that would probably get my post deleted
.


I linked an article that cites David Axelrod, architect of Barack Obama's election and re-election, in which he opines that Hillary will beat Donald Trump, and I was laughed at and disrespected.

You would think such news would be greeted with glee!

I would say what I really feel about these deeply personal, puerile and pusillanimous attacks on my character if I wasn't concerned about having my post deleted , as well.


DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
22. You would think the fact our likely nominee is beating their likely nominee*
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 02:01 PM
Nov 2015

You would think the fact our likely nominee is beating their likely nominee would be welcome as good news here and not an opportunity to beat up on the guy who posted it.






*at this time

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
21. At first I went out on the proverbial limb and said Trump will never be the GO(PU) nominee.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:59 PM
Nov 2015

At this point I don't think we can rule it out.

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