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http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/hillary-clinton-south-carolina-216125
Clinton moves to end the primary quickly
As her rivals gasp in Iowa, the front-runner is locking down later states.
By Gabriel Debenedetti
11/21/15 05:48 PM EST
Updated 11/21/15 06:19 PM EST
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Hillary Clinton's campaign has a strong presence not only in Iowa and New Hampshire but also Nevada and South Carolina. | AP
NORTH CHARLESTON, SC Hillary Clinton is moving aggressively to put the Democratic nomination out of reach for her rivals.
From increased travel to the states voting in March to a reinvigorated push to reach $100 million in funds raised by year-end, the front-runners team is eager to capitalize on her recent climb in the polls to knock Bernie Sanders and Martin OMalley out of the race quickly.
Certainly, the Brooklyn-based campaign is still spending a considerable chunk of its time on Iowa and New Hampshire and running a rotation of fresh ads across both states. But shes making moves in South Carolina and Nevada, dispatching high-profile surrogates, unleashing Bill Clinton, and even deploying cash to strategically useful state Democratic parties long before her rivals have anywhere near the organizational capacity to follow suit.
Unlike Sanders, they have the resources to spend heavily beyond New Hampshire and Iowa, particularly in the Super Tuesday states where you need to have an expensive media presence, said Patrick Murray, director of the Monmouth University poll. He cant spread himself that thin, and the reality is that he hasnt made the inroads into core communities, like African-Americans, that will make up the bulk of the Super Tuesday states. So he needs to score huge wins in Iowa and New Hampshire."
On this Saturday in South Carolina, as all three candidates gathered for a local state party event, the differences between Clinton and her challengers were clear theyre focused on staying alive after Iowa and shes already playing a long game.
Sanders' effort to appeal to African-American voters here meant focusing more than is usual for him on criminal justice and police reform. He told reporters he remains confident of his chances despite Clintons 53-point lead over him among South Carolina Democrats in the RealClearPolitics average........
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/hillary-clinton-south-carolina-216125#ixzz3sB5DXZS6
onehandle
(51,122 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)I am very sure that my birthday will be the day it ends. Cannot wait for March and the partay!
riversedge
(70,242 posts).....n some early-voting states, the campaign has sent high-profile surrogates in to generate media buzz during slow periods: Vermont governor Peter Shumlin and Howard Dean, one of his predecessors, are hosting a meet-and-greet in their home state this weekend, while New Jersey senator Cory Booker was in South Carolina for Clinton this week.
And Clinton's team has also been rolling out leadership councils of influential locals, tapping their political networks on her behalf in the states that vote in March, a move thats drawn attention for including nearly all Democratic officials in states like Alabama and most of the party leaders in Sanders Vermont and OMalleys Maryland. Clinton landed in Charleston on Saturday after a Friday night rally in Tennessee another March-voting state and she was set to return to Iowa on Sunday before swinging through Nevada on Monday and Colorado yet another March destination on Tuesday.
Finally, the campaigns been launching some of its minority coalitions African Americans for Hillary and Latinos for Hillary in Georgia and Florida respectively.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/hillary-clinton-south-carolina-216125#ixzz3sB9zh1R2
bravenak
(34,648 posts)If not, the Outback Steakhouse so I can be nice and ready for the winning. I love March! We are so going to beat Trump!
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)mcar
(42,334 posts)Defining the Rs as the radicals they are as early as possible makes perfect sense.
Township75
(3,535 posts)Then on to the next one.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)firebrand80
(2,760 posts)If Hillary wins both IA and NH, it might not get that far
Gothmog
(145,303 posts)bvf
(6,604 posts)that it's all about the money, which pretty much sums up this OP's core message.
Woo-hoo Wall Street!, eh?
dogknob
(2,431 posts)OK, then.
bvf
(6,604 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Chan790
(20,176 posts)scandals, war crimes, dead people on her conscience, connections to Wall St., oligarchical tendencies...
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)violence in the US, his connections to Lockheed Martin, the sugar industry,........
Codeine
(25,586 posts)not enough Hispanic support, not enough female support, etc.
Gothmog
(145,303 posts)Even if Sanders does win in either or both of Iowa and/or New Hampshire, the race will over on Super Tuesday. Texas alone has almost three times the number of delegates as Iowa and New Hampshire combined
reformist2
(9,841 posts)The tone of these rah-rah-Hillary posts is really disturbing. The Hillary camp has this weird desire to declare victory before the results are actually in.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)Bernie will probably hang on for awhile but it will be over for all practical purposes.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)It will mean the party will be nominating what would have once been a moderate Republican.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Hillary is a solid liberal Democrat.. ranked next to Lahey, Mikulski, Durbin, Kerry and Harkin.
http://voteview.com/SENATE_SORT110.HTM
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)* Voted and encouraged others to vote for the Iraq War in the absence of hard intel proving WMDs were present. The effect was to destabilize the region, with ISIS emerging as a powerful terrorist force.
* Encouraged a proactive business perspective towards monetizing Iraq for the U.S.
* Switched positions on bankruptcy bill after receiving substantial Wall St. monies to fund her 2000 senatorial campaign; hurt women in single families and lower income individuals at the benefit of her corporate masters.
* Outspoken advocate of anti-LGBT rights, right up to when she abruptly changed her position 2 years ago. As secretary of state urged against LGBT efforts to have Spouse 1/Spouse 2 as guardians on passports, instead advocating for the hurtful Husband/Wife designation. Now claims to be a strong advocate for this community.
* Switched positions numerous times on her position on gun rights, as helped her campaign.
* Helped overthrow the democratically elected government of a Latin American country.
* Helped rig the democratic elections of another Latin American country.
* Worked on and praised the TPP trade deal to hurt American workers at the benefit of large corporations; these corporations have since donated large sums of monies to her campaign. Switched positions on the TPP to court the progressive Dem base; refuses to be active in her opposition to the bill.
* Delays a declaration for her position on Keystone, a pipeline for transporting dirty fossil fuels across America with effectively no impact on American jobs but great impact on corporate profits. Now claims to oppose it.
* Takes money from lobbyists of private prisons.
Her most telling endorsements:
Id lie if I said I wasnt disappointed with the statement that she made on TPP. Everyone knew where she was on that and where she will be, but given the necessities of the moment and a tough Democratic primary, she felt she needed to go there initially. --Representative Kind
Hillary will bend a little bit, but not so much that she cant get herself back on course in the general and when she is governing." --Al From, DLC
DCBob
(24,689 posts)But it still means nothing to me... or most other Democrats.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)It still means nothing in the grand scheme of things.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)Most will ignore it.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Bernie supporter to write one.
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)Says she has all the chance of winning a GE as Charlie crist
Alfresco
(1,698 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)That's a shame. She could do just about anything, and you guys will still overlook it. Even her blatant lie about sniper fire gets you locked out of the Hillary group. The truth can't be told about her. She told the lie, not me. But it's just too much for your bunch.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Never has bothered some "Democrats," that I can see.
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)but it's been leaning republican lite for or a long long time. It's sad but the election is being bought once again. More power for the rich. I'm sure there will be war where the poor are sent to die and the rich will get richer. It feels just like a republican win to me if she wins. sad sad day for America.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)riversedge
(70,242 posts)time around. It is to your peril. It is nothing like her 2007-8 campaign strategy. Really--read what she has done since it started last April--. You will find, if you are honest with yourself, that it is different and can not be compared to 2008
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)but the public has too, and besides being drawn to bernie's message, there are still serious trust /approval issues
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)and there is still tons of time
riversedge
(70,242 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)doesnt mean it will happen. the voters will decide on their timetable. may be short may be long
George II
(67,782 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)but it is good to stay positive
George II
(67,782 posts)09/27 44.1 25.2 +18.9
10/14 48.3 25.4 +22.9
10/21 51.1 27.0 +24.1
11/01 54.2 30.4 +23.8
11/08 54.3 30.5 +23.8
11/10 54.3 30.4 +23.9
11/18 54.2 30.1 +24.1
In just about 6-7 weeks she's gained 5.3%, coincidentally beginning right after the first debate.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)it'll pass......
George II
(67,782 posts)The Benghazi bump happened about a month ago.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)the "accurate" polls will change between now and voting? lets put it this way..i wouldn't set a watch by it
but if it makes you happy, by all means enjoy.....
George II
(67,782 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Build a solid campaign against the Republicans now, while the Clown Car is still overcrowded.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)would be the Republican candidate. Smart.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)see her already in the WH.
Will you be equally happy, if she loses the GE?
Even the sickest repug will order an ambulence to
the voting booth,
Most of the millennials will stay home,
Most of the indies will do the same,
and I guarantee you will have lost 15-20% of the
regular dems.
But good luck!
Godhumor
(6,437 posts)I will never understand why people insist Hillary will do worse in the GE than someone who can barely manage 30% support in a primary.
BootinUp
(47,164 posts)votesparks
(1,288 posts)is that Sanders has thousands of people on the ground all around the country in states that he hasn't opened offices in. Bernie supporters haven't been waiting for the campaign to come here, we've already started it way in advance.
We've been working on the ground here in Ohio since July canvassing, phone banking and building an organization among many things. There has been zero Hillary campaigning going on here.
George II
(67,782 posts)...will be forgotten in March.
votesparks
(1,288 posts)But until then...
I_AM_SAM
(16 posts)as premature.
Clinton is already contracting, and heading to the right. Premature. It'll result in a downward spiral once it's made clear that Clinton is shining the voters on.(war drumming, invoking 9/11, and many more)
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)memes. Hillary hasn't "moved" she disagreed about taxing the middle class. That is not a movement.
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malokvale77
(4,879 posts)the sooner she's gone the better.
DianeK
(975 posts)or at least very very young...history will tell you that this has not even started!
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)From increased travel to the states voting in March to a reinvigorated push to reach $100 million in funds raised by year-end, the front-runners team is eager to capitalize on her recent climb in the polls to knock Bernie Sanders and Martin OMalley out of the race quickly.
Unlike Sanders, they have the resources to spend heavily beyond New Hampshire and Iowa, particularly in the Super Tuesday states where you need to have an expensive media presence, said Patrick Murray, director of the Monmouth University poll. He cant spread himself that thin, and the reality is that he hasnt made the inroads into core communities, like African-Americans, that will make up the bulk of the Super Tuesday states. So he needs to score huge wins in Iowa and New Hampshire."
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/hillary-clinton-south-carolina-216125#ixzz3sBVp0WIt
I seem to remember a candidate who thought the same of Presidency in 2012
MisterP
(23,730 posts)MsLeopard
(1,265 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....and every state other than Vermont. This could very well be over even before Super Tuesday.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)aidbo
(2,328 posts)Alfresco
(1,698 posts)Sounds like a workable plan to me.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)See how that works? He can't win the General Election if he's not even IN the General Election. He has to be the nominee FIRST, and he won't win that either!!
99Forever
(14,524 posts)And you think you'll gain by this strategy?
Fascinating.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Alfresco
(1,698 posts)Speaking of Castro, didn't Bernie... oh never mind.