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riversedge

(70,242 posts)
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:05 PM Nov 2015

Clinton moves to end the primary quickly

Moving along--that's our gal.



http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/hillary-clinton-south-carolina-216125


Clinton moves to end the primary quickly

As her rivals gasp in Iowa, the front-runner is locking down later states.


By Gabriel Debenedetti

11/21/15 05:48 PM EST

Updated 11/21/15 06:19 PM EST
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Hillary Clinton's campaign has a strong presence not only in Iowa and New Hampshire but also Nevada and South Carolina. | AP

NORTH CHARLESTON, SC — Hillary Clinton is moving aggressively to put the Democratic nomination out of reach for her rivals.

From increased travel to the states voting in March to a reinvigorated push to reach $100 million in funds raised by year-end, the front-runner’s team is eager to capitalize on her recent climb in the polls to knock Bernie Sanders and Martin O’Malley out of the race quickly.

Certainly, the Brooklyn-based campaign is still spending a considerable chunk of its time on Iowa and New Hampshire — and running a rotation of fresh ads across both states. But she’s making moves in South Carolina and Nevada, dispatching high-profile surrogates, unleashing Bill Clinton, and even deploying cash to strategically useful state Democratic parties long before her rivals have anywhere near the organizational capacity to follow suit.

“Unlike Sanders, they have the resources to spend heavily beyond New Hampshire and Iowa, particularly in the Super Tuesday states where you need to have an expensive media presence,” said Patrick Murray, director of the Monmouth University poll. “He can’t spread himself that thin, and the reality is that he hasn’t made the inroads into core communities, like African-Americans, that will make up the bulk of the Super Tuesday states. So he needs to score huge wins in Iowa and New Hampshire."

On this Saturday in South Carolina, as all three candidates gathered for a local state party event, the differences between Clinton and her challengers were clear – they’re focused on staying alive after Iowa and she’s already playing a long game.


Sanders' effort to appeal to African-American voters here meant focusing more than is usual for him on criminal justice and police reform. He told reporters he remains confident of his chances despite Clinton’s 53-point lead over him among South Carolina Democrats in the RealClearPolitics average........

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/hillary-clinton-south-carolina-216125#ixzz3sB5DXZS6




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Clinton moves to end the primary quickly (Original Post) riversedge Nov 2015 OP
Rivals? What rivals? nt onehandle Nov 2015 #1
Oh, good! bravenak Nov 2015 #2
IMHO you will have a grand birthday party riversedge Nov 2015 #11
If it's over by then I will go to Sea Galley cause I like the shrimp. bravenak Nov 2015 #15
I'm sure Sec. Clinton is glad about your genuine joy as a genuine supporter. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #18
She will appreciate my REAL VOTE. bravenak Nov 2015 #55
Long game is right mcar Nov 2015 #3
She will strike down her opponents at a time of her choosing with a single forceful death blow Township75 Nov 2015 #4
Wow, that's a great analogy. pangaia Nov 2015 #44
This race is over by Super Tuesday firebrand80 Nov 2015 #5
Agreed Gothmog Nov 2015 #9
Thanks for the confirmation bvf Nov 2015 #6
So... "Yay! Bernie doesn't have enough money to be President," is it? dogknob Nov 2015 #7
They don't even try to hide it anymore. n/t bvf Nov 2015 #50
Bernie doesn't have enough of a lot of other things to be President. George II Nov 2015 #63
...and Hilllary has too many of a great deal of other things to be President. Chan790 Nov 2015 #70
Is this any different than Sanders votes on military action, dead people on his conscience from gun Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #76
Not enough money, not enough black support, Codeine Nov 2015 #81
The race may not even last until Super Tuesday Gothmog Nov 2015 #8
Ending the primary season before anyone has voted, doesn't sound very "democratic" to me. reformist2 Nov 2015 #10
No one is talking about ending the primary season except you. riversedge Nov 2015 #13
And you're not interested in winning? MoonRiver Nov 2015 #68
I think a blowout win in South Carolina is going to feel like the end of the Democratic primary. DCBob Nov 2015 #12
I think a blowout win in South Carolina is going to feel like the end of the Democratic party JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #19
Nonsense. DCBob Nov 2015 #23
Yes she has an impressive resume. For those new to the qualifications: JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #24
You are certainly good at copy/pasting. DCBob Nov 2015 #26
Well, I wrote the original list too. I quite like it. It is very informative and issues-based. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #27
Good for you. DCBob Nov 2015 #28
It is what it is. My hope is that voters read it and make a determination of who deserves their vote JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #29
Fair enough but don't get your hopes up. DCBob Nov 2015 #30
I just ignored it. After all if I want an honest descritpition of Hillary I wouldn't expect a upaloopa Nov 2015 #33
Kendrick meek SwampG8r Nov 2015 #75
GO GATORS ! Alfresco Nov 2015 #78
You mean it means nothing to Hillary supporters Politicalboi Nov 2015 #34
this. nt retrowire Nov 2015 #48
Thanks, I'll add the sniper fire to the resume on its next posting. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #54
What's a couple hundred thousand dead Arabs, right? Scootaloo Nov 2015 #52
yeah 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #53
Darn those pesky black voters. nt Codeine Nov 2015 #82
Did I say that? Or is that what you think? JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #83
deja vu all over again... restorefreedom Nov 2015 #14
You really have not been following her campaign--or have chosen to ignore it this riversedge Nov 2015 #20
i know she has learned from the past restorefreedom Nov 2015 #31
You mean 25% of Dems not the public. The public doesn't know who Bernie Sanders is. upaloopa Nov 2015 #35
no worries. people are getting to know him every day restorefreedom Nov 2015 #36
ah, but did the title of the article in the OP sink in?? riversedge Nov 2015 #39
just cuz she WANTS to wrap things up restorefreedom Nov 2015 #49
Yes, they're getting to know him every day, and that's why Clinton is drawing away. George II Nov 2015 #64
actually she is not. restorefreedom Nov 2015 #65
According to Huffington Pollster's National Trend: George II Nov 2015 #66
she got a benghazi bump restorefreedom Nov 2015 #71
This morning she got another bump in Huffington Pollster - now 55.3 to 30.9, + 24.4 (0.3 more) George II Nov 2015 #72
do you know how many times restorefreedom Nov 2015 #74
That's why it's called a "trend". George II Nov 2015 #79
like i said, enjoy...... :) nt restorefreedom Nov 2015 #80
It shows Hillary is not a popular person. Lost a huge lead. nt Logical Nov 2015 #57
Smart campaign strategy. MineralMan Nov 2015 #16
And she is doing just that. riversedge Nov 2015 #22
It was Obama's strategy, too. He defined Mitt Romney even before it even looked as if Romney BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #59
I am very happy or your dreams to sadoldgirl Nov 2015 #17
If people wanted Bernie to represent the party in the GE, he'd be doing better now Godhumor Nov 2015 #41
K & R BootinUp Nov 2015 #21
What this fails to mention or consider votesparks Nov 2015 #25
The Ohio primary is in mid-March. Canvassing and phone banking in November.... George II Nov 2015 #46
We shall see votesparks Nov 2015 #51
We Bernie supporters do declare such proclamation I_AM_SAM Nov 2015 #32
You all have been pretty wrong so far. That move to the right shit is just another one of your bull upaloopa Nov 2015 #37
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #67
Good... malokvale77 Nov 2015 #38
you must be a newbie.. DianeK Nov 2015 #40
sounds almost like money can buy the public azurnoir Nov 2015 #42
we're not people, we're poker chips--won with money and cashed in as votes MisterP Nov 2015 #43
^^^This. nt MsLeopard Nov 2015 #47
She is now ahead in the four early primary/caucus states.... George II Nov 2015 #45
Hillary will be the winner. Bernie will be the loser. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #58
That's certainly what it looks like. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #61
You think this makes people like her more? LOL, ok. nt Logical Nov 2015 #56
I know a way she could end the primary very quickly, but you wouldn't like it. aidbo Nov 2015 #60
Dispatch MO BS ASAP then define gop opponents. Alfresco Nov 2015 #62
Any candidate who can only muster 25% from his "own" party can't win in the General Election. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #69
Gotta love the declarations of "victory" before a single vote has been cast. 99Forever Nov 2015 #73
Amazing isn't it?! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2015 #77
I really like the picture with her and Secretary Julián Castro. Alfresco Nov 2015 #84
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
2. Oh, good!
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:07 PM
Nov 2015

I am very sure that my birthday will be the day it ends. Cannot wait for March and the partay!

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
11. IMHO you will have a grand birthday party
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:21 PM
Nov 2015



.....n some early-voting states, the campaign has sent high-profile surrogates in to generate media buzz during slow periods: Vermont governor Peter Shumlin and Howard Dean, one of his predecessors, are hosting a meet-and-greet in their home state this weekend, while New Jersey senator Cory Booker was in South Carolina for Clinton this week.

And Clinton's team has also been rolling out “leadership councils” of influential locals, tapping their political networks on her behalf in the states that vote in March, a move that’s drawn attention for including nearly all Democratic officials in states like Alabama and most of the party leaders in Sanders’ Vermont and O’Malley’s Maryland. Clinton landed in Charleston on Saturday after a Friday night rally in Tennessee — another March-voting state — and she was set to return to Iowa on Sunday before swinging through Nevada on Monday and Colorado — yet another March destination — on Tuesday.

Finally, the campaign’s been launching some of its minority coalitions — African Americans for Hillary and Latinos for Hillary — in Georgia and Florida respectively.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/hillary-clinton-south-carolina-216125#ixzz3sB9zh1R2
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
15. If it's over by then I will go to Sea Galley cause I like the shrimp.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:23 PM
Nov 2015

If not, the Outback Steakhouse so I can be nice and ready for the winning. I love March! We are so going to beat Trump!

mcar

(42,334 posts)
3. Long game is right
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:08 PM
Nov 2015

Defining the Rs as the radicals they are as early as possible makes perfect sense.

Township75

(3,535 posts)
4. She will strike down her opponents at a time of her choosing with a single forceful death blow
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:11 PM
Nov 2015

Then on to the next one.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
6. Thanks for the confirmation
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:15 PM
Nov 2015

that it's all about the money, which pretty much sums up this OP's core message.

Woo-hoo Wall Street!, eh?


 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
70. ...and Hilllary has too many of a great deal of other things to be President.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 10:41 AM
Nov 2015

scandals, war crimes, dead people on her conscience, connections to Wall St., oligarchical tendencies...

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
76. Is this any different than Sanders votes on military action, dead people on his conscience from gun
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 12:22 PM
Nov 2015

violence in the US, his connections to Lockheed Martin, the sugar industry,........

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
81. Not enough money, not enough black support,
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 02:23 PM
Nov 2015

not enough Hispanic support, not enough female support, etc.

Gothmog

(145,303 posts)
8. The race may not even last until Super Tuesday
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:17 PM
Nov 2015

Even if Sanders does win in either or both of Iowa and/or New Hampshire, the race will over on Super Tuesday. Texas alone has almost three times the number of delegates as Iowa and New Hampshire combined

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
10. Ending the primary season before anyone has voted, doesn't sound very "democratic" to me.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:20 PM
Nov 2015

The tone of these rah-rah-Hillary posts is really disturbing. The Hillary camp has this weird desire to declare victory before the results are actually in.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
12. I think a blowout win in South Carolina is going to feel like the end of the Democratic primary.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:23 PM
Nov 2015

Bernie will probably hang on for awhile but it will be over for all practical purposes.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
19. I think a blowout win in South Carolina is going to feel like the end of the Democratic party
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:39 PM
Nov 2015

It will mean the party will be nominating what would have once been a moderate Republican.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
24. Yes she has an impressive resume. For those new to the qualifications:
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:46 PM
Nov 2015

* Voted and encouraged others to vote for the Iraq War in the absence of hard intel proving WMDs were present. The effect was to destabilize the region, with ISIS emerging as a powerful terrorist force.
* Encouraged a proactive business perspective towards monetizing Iraq for the U.S.
* Switched positions on bankruptcy bill after receiving substantial Wall St. monies to fund her 2000 senatorial campaign; hurt women in single families and lower income individuals at the benefit of her corporate masters.
* Outspoken advocate of anti-LGBT rights, right up to when she abruptly changed her position 2 years ago. As secretary of state urged against LGBT efforts to have Spouse 1/Spouse 2 as guardians on passports, instead advocating for the hurtful Husband/Wife designation. Now claims to be a strong advocate for this community.
* Switched positions numerous times on her position on gun rights, as helped her campaign.
* Helped overthrow the democratically elected government of a Latin American country.
* Helped rig the democratic elections of another Latin American country.
* Worked on and praised the TPP trade deal to hurt American workers at the benefit of large corporations; these corporations have since donated large sums of monies to her campaign. Switched positions on the TPP to court the progressive Dem base; refuses to be active in her opposition to the bill.
* Delays a declaration for her position on Keystone, a pipeline for transporting dirty fossil fuels across America with effectively no impact on American jobs but great impact on corporate profits. Now claims to oppose it.
* Takes money from lobbyists of private prisons.

Her most telling endorsements:


“I’d lie if I said I wasn’t disappointed with the statement that she made on TPP. Everyone knew where she was on that and where she will be, but given the necessities of the moment and a tough Democratic primary, she felt she needed to go there initially. --Representative Kind



“Hillary will bend a little bit, but not so much that she can’t get herself back on course in the general and when she is governing." --Al From, DLC

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
26. You are certainly good at copy/pasting.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:48 PM
Nov 2015

But it still means nothing to me... or most other Democrats.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
29. It is what it is. My hope is that voters read it and make a determination of who deserves their vote
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:51 PM
Nov 2015

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
33. I just ignored it. After all if I want an honest descritpition of Hillary I wouldn't expect a
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:17 PM
Nov 2015

Bernie supporter to write one.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
34. You mean it means nothing to Hillary supporters
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:17 PM
Nov 2015

That's a shame. She could do just about anything, and you guys will still overlook it. Even her blatant lie about sniper fire gets you locked out of the Hillary group. The truth can't be told about her. She told the lie, not me. But it's just too much for your bunch.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
52. What's a couple hundred thousand dead Arabs, right?
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 12:20 AM
Nov 2015

Never has bothered some "Democrats," that I can see.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
53. yeah
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 12:28 AM
Nov 2015

but it's been leaning republican lite for or a long long time. It's sad but the election is being bought once again. More power for the rich. I'm sure there will be war where the poor are sent to die and the rich will get richer. It feels just like a republican win to me if she wins. sad sad day for America.

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
20. You really have not been following her campaign--or have chosen to ignore it this
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:39 PM
Nov 2015

time around. It is to your peril. It is nothing like her 2007-8 campaign strategy. Really--read what she has done since it started last April--. You will find, if you are honest with yourself, that it is different and can not be compared to 2008

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
31. i know she has learned from the past
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:04 PM
Nov 2015

but the public has too, and besides being drawn to bernie's message, there are still serious trust /approval issues

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
49. just cuz she WANTS to wrap things up
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 12:07 AM
Nov 2015

doesnt mean it will happen. the voters will decide on their timetable. may be short may be long

George II

(67,782 posts)
66. According to Huffington Pollster's National Trend:
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 09:33 AM
Nov 2015

09/27 44.1 25.2 +18.9
10/14 48.3 25.4 +22.9
10/21 51.1 27.0 +24.1
11/01 54.2 30.4 +23.8
11/08 54.3 30.5 +23.8
11/10 54.3 30.4 +23.9
11/18 54.2 30.1 +24.1

In just about 6-7 weeks she's gained 5.3%, coincidentally beginning right after the first debate.

George II

(67,782 posts)
72. This morning she got another bump in Huffington Pollster - now 55.3 to 30.9, + 24.4 (0.3 more)
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 11:17 AM
Nov 2015

The Benghazi bump happened about a month ago.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
74. do you know how many times
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 12:08 PM
Nov 2015

the "accurate" polls will change between now and voting? lets put it this way..i wouldn't set a watch by it

but if it makes you happy, by all means enjoy.....

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
16. Smart campaign strategy.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:25 PM
Nov 2015

Build a solid campaign against the Republicans now, while the Clown Car is still overcrowded.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
59. It was Obama's strategy, too. He defined Mitt Romney even before it even looked as if Romney
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 02:23 AM
Nov 2015

would be the Republican candidate. Smart.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
17. I am very happy or your dreams to
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:28 PM
Nov 2015

see her already in the WH.

Will you be equally happy, if she loses the GE?

Even the sickest repug will order an ambulence to
the voting booth,

Most of the millennials will stay home,

Most of the indies will do the same,

and I guarantee you will have lost 15-20% of the
regular dems.

But good luck!

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
41. If people wanted Bernie to represent the party in the GE, he'd be doing better now
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:45 PM
Nov 2015

I will never understand why people insist Hillary will do worse in the GE than someone who can barely manage 30% support in a primary.

votesparks

(1,288 posts)
25. What this fails to mention or consider
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:48 PM
Nov 2015

is that Sanders has thousands of people on the ground all around the country in states that he hasn't opened offices in. Bernie supporters haven't been waiting for the campaign to come here, we've already started it way in advance.

We've been working on the ground here in Ohio since July canvassing, phone banking and building an organization among many things. There has been zero Hillary campaigning going on here.

George II

(67,782 posts)
46. The Ohio primary is in mid-March. Canvassing and phone banking in November....
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:32 PM
Nov 2015

...will be forgotten in March.

 

I_AM_SAM

(16 posts)
32. We Bernie supporters do declare such proclamation
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:05 PM
Nov 2015

as premature.

Clinton is already contracting, and heading to the right. Premature. It'll result in a downward spiral once it's made clear that Clinton is shining the voters on.(war drumming, invoking 9/11, and many more)

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
37. You all have been pretty wrong so far. That move to the right shit is just another one of your bull
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:23 PM
Nov 2015

memes. Hillary hasn't "moved" she disagreed about taxing the middle class. That is not a movement.

Response to upaloopa (Reply #37)

 

DianeK

(975 posts)
40. you must be a newbie..
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:43 PM
Nov 2015

or at least very very young...history will tell you that this has not even started!

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
42. sounds almost like money can buy the public
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:49 PM
Nov 2015

From increased travel to the states voting in March to a reinvigorated push to reach $100 million in funds raised by year-end, the front-runner’s team is eager to capitalize on her recent climb in the polls to knock Bernie Sanders and Martin O’Malley out of the race quickly.

“Unlike Sanders, they have the resources to spend heavily beyond New Hampshire and Iowa, particularly in the Super Tuesday states where you need to have an expensive media presence,” said Patrick Murray, director of the Monmouth University poll. “He can’t spread himself that thin, and the reality is that he hasn’t made the inroads into core communities, like African-Americans, that will make up the bulk of the Super Tuesday states. So he needs to score huge wins in Iowa and New Hampshire."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/hillary-clinton-south-carolina-216125#ixzz3sBVp0WIt


I seem to remember a candidate who thought the same of Presidency in 2012

George II

(67,782 posts)
45. She is now ahead in the four early primary/caucus states....
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:29 PM
Nov 2015

....and every state other than Vermont. This could very well be over even before Super Tuesday.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
69. Any candidate who can only muster 25% from his "own" party can't win in the General Election.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 10:26 AM
Nov 2015

See how that works? He can't win the General Election if he's not even IN the General Election. He has to be the nominee FIRST, and he won't win that either!!

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
73. Gotta love the declarations of "victory" before a single vote has been cast.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 11:19 AM
Nov 2015

And you think you'll gain by this strategy?


Fascinating.

Alfresco

(1,698 posts)
84. I really like the picture with her and Secretary Julián Castro.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 03:52 PM
Nov 2015

Speaking of Castro, didn't Bernie... oh never mind.

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