Keep yelling Socialist...

[trumad]

Great strategy BS'ers...great Strategy.

[Kalidurga]

1. Thank you I thought so.

[valerief]

2. BS'ers? Really? How, ahem, charming. Not. nt

[trumad]

16. Tell you what---

Make sure to make many many posters of Che for the Bernie rallies. That's even greater strategy.

[valerief]

26. You're right. I should put Bernie's face on Hillary's tee shirt.

Hey, that'd be funny!

[Snotcicles]

32. +1.nt

[oasis]

57. I'll give them credit for ditching the Robin Hood hats.

Talk about a mixed message.

[Cali_Democrat]

3. From Gallup earlier this year:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/183713/socialist-presidential-candidates-least-appealing.aspx

JUNE 22, 2015

In U.S., Socialist Presidential Candidates Least Appealing

by Justin McCarthy

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- As the 2016 presidential election field takes shape, more than nine in 10 Americans say they would vote for a qualified presidential candidate who is Catholic, a woman, black, Hispanic or Jewish. Less than half of Americans would vote for a candidate who is a socialist.

[NurseJackie]

34. +1

[John Poet]

47. Maybe you should ask for a sub-forum

for people who give a shit about what some Gallup poll from last year said....

Ah, never-mind, I guess there already is one....

[Cali_Democrat]

52. Please read my post again along with the article

It's from this year.

[MaggieD]

51. +1

[Luminous Animal]

4. Okay.

[trumad]

5. Yeah that will work.

[Eric J in MN]

28. Cool. NT

NT

[kristopher]

39. Thanks.

[Autumn]

6. DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST!!! Is that loud enough for you?

I think it's a great strategy too.

[trumad]

11. Hey--God bless you if you think that will work.

[Autumn]

17. I think it will.

[trumad]

19. Politically---I don't and I think its a dumb strategy.

[Autumn]

23. That's probably because you support Hillary.

[trumad]

25. Perhaps....

[redstateblues]

37. Those who think Socialism is not a negative

as far as the American electorate is concerned are "whistling past the graveyard"

[floriduck]

7. Wouldn't it be a bitch to lose

to a socialist? How embarrassing!

[Hiraeth]

8. lol

indeed

[trumad]

9. Aint gonna happen.

[azmom]

10. DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM

Over Vulture Capitalism any damn day of the week.

[trumad]

13. Ya see...

That's where emotion gets the best of the BS'ers...

You really think yelling socialist will pull the middle to the left.

Ha Ha

[azmom]

15. I see. Do you see or is the party making you blind?

[trumad]

18. No--- I look out of the bubble....

Unlike the DU BS'ers.

[bvar22]

45. You "look out of the bubble"?

Of course, you realize that is an admission of living IN the bubble.

[trumad]

50. Yep

But like Hunger Games...I know a secret passage out.

[bunnies]

12. Im 42 and that word has zero negative connotation to me.

Who the hell is so scared of it?

[trumad]

14. Come on...You're a bright person...

You do know that there are people outside the bubble known as DU?

[bunnies]

21. I do. And Im not being snarky.

But really, other than republicans - I dont know anyone my age or younger that reacts (at all) to that word. We weren't brought up being taught to fear it. Maybe its different in other areas of the country.

Ive honestly never given it much thought before this election.

[trumad]

24. I hear you...

Young people eat it up and good for them. Unfortunately they vote like shit.

[bunnies]

27. I cant argue with you there.

I remember I couldnt WAIT to vote when I turned 18. It probably had something with Bill Clintons charm though. The MTV appearance hooked me.

[trumad]

29. See a lot of folks here on DU don't know this about me...

But if a miracle occurred and Bernie did win---and kids got out and voted in droves....it wouldn't break my heart.

I look at politics like a football game---strategy, players, ground game, etc.

I honestly think that using the word Socialist is not good strategy.

[bunnies]

31. :) You just made my heart happy.

I understand where youre coming from. And as for the word? I have no idea what to think. Repubs have been screaming "socialism" for years. Maybe theyve numbed voters to it. Or maybe not.

I dont doubt that it probably complicates things for Bernie in some circles. His only choice was to embrace it though.

[deutsey]

59. Anyone who knows socialism's history in the US

from the Gilded Age through the New Deal shouldn't be scared of it.

The reason there's been such a violent reaction against it (especially right after WWI and after WWII-1970s) and why it's been demonized or dropped down the memory hole is it scares the hell out of those making out like bandits (literally) at the top of capitalism's pyramid scheme.

[Snotcicles]

20. You should bookmark this. That way you won't have to redo it when you have to concede. nt

[trumad]

22. I got more bookmarked threads than Carter has Liver pills.

That's old school.

[restorefreedom]

30. its a non issue

the only people who are scared of the socialist bogeyman are never gonna vote dem anyway.

[Half-Century Man]

33. Socialist is no longer the curse it once was

It is now a badge of honor.
I am now and have been for the majority of my life been a socialist.
Because of the fallout from the Cold War, I was confused.
The cold war is long dead. The words have lost their power.

Socialism is recognized as "Us United" as in the "United States".

[GusBob]

35. Or better yet 'Defend Socialism'

keep seeing that headline. Is it offensive to some people? If it's right why does it need to be defended?

This will not play well in Peoria and will be used against Democratic candidates in the weeks and months to come

[redstateblues]

36. How About "Socialism Rocks-Vote Bernie" for a bumper sticker?

Now there's a winning strategy.

[GusBob]

38. You don't need a bumper sticker

Overheard at Thanksgiving dinner across America:

"Didja hear? These Democrats want to turn America Socialist?"

Super bad timing before the holidays

[Warren Stupidity]

40. Actually it is a good strategy.

Sanders probably will not win the nomination and he knows that. Instead he is intent on rebuilding a progressive democratic left in this country within the institutional framework of the Democratic Party. I fully support that effort. It is the path to a progressive electoral victory.

Have fun with your center-right corporate samo-samo candidate. Stuff dreams are made of, amirite?

[frylock]

41. Why all the chirping if your candidate is so inevitable?

You nervous, HCer?

[zappaman]

42. Bookmark this thread. n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

43. I read his speech...

I still don't see how it is different from modern liberalism in wanting to use the profits capitalism creates to ameliorate social ills...

I am not a huge fan of labels except on food, clothing, and heavy machinery.

[99Forever]

44. 1955 called...

... it wants it's chickenshit Red Scare back.

[Bread and Circus]

55. snicker irl.

[NurseJackie]

46. "Say 'what' one more time! I double-dog dare ya!"

This image came to mind after reading the OP title.


Jules Winnfield

[Capt. Obvious]

48. When the paper tiger roars

its true target hears it.

[John Poet]

49. Socialism forever.

Socialism for everyone.

[think]

53. Keep ignoring the lobbyists. It thrills the corporations to no end....

[rhett o rick]

54. Here is where we differ. You support the 1% and their looting of the 99%.

And we support the fight for social programs that have saved the 99%.

Here's what Sanders has to say:

Almost everything <Roosevelt> proposed was called "socialist." I thought I would mention that just in passing. Social Security, which transformed life for the elderly in this country, was defined by his opponents as "socialist." The concept of the "minimum wage"—that workers had to be paid at least a certain amount of money for their labor—was seen as a radical intrusion into the marketplace and was described as "socialist." Unemployment insurance (the idea that if you lose your job at least you have something to fall back), abolishing child labor, the 40-hour work week, collective bargaining (the rights of workers to engage in negotiations with a union), strong banking regulations, deposit insurance, and job programs that put millions of people to work were all described, in one way or another, as "socialist." Yet as you all know, all of these programs and many more have become the fabric of our nation and in fact the foundation of our middle class.

Thirty years later after Roosevelt's speech, in the 1960s, President Lyndon Johnson fought for Medicare and Medicaid to provide health care to millions of senior citizens and families with children, persons with disabilities and some of the most vulnerable people in this country. Today Medicare does not seem to be such a terribly radical idea, to say that once they get old they should have medical insurance, but when it was proposed once again we heard right-wing forces describe these programs as socialistic and a threat to our American way of life.

Of course we could vote for HRC and 8 more years of the status quo that has decimated the 99%.

Two sides to the class war and Clinton is on the side with Goldman-Sachs. No Democrat should put corp wealth before helping our poor.

[AgingAmerican]

56. McCarthyism

nt

[deutsey]

58. Yeah, it's sad to see how far right the Democratic Party has gone

and how ignorant of American history so many people are today.