Bush III?

[AlbertCat]

http://www.aol.com/article/2015/11/19/clinton-offers-more-hawkish-approach-on-isis-than-obama/21269162/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl2%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D-1879552539

NEW YORK (Reuters) -- Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton on Thursday urged a more aggressive approach to fighting Islamic State militants than President Barack Obama has pursued, saying an intensified air campaign is needed combined with ground forces.
In a speech to the Council on Foreign Relations in New York, the former secretary of state offered her most expansive view to date on how to counter a growing militancy that launched attacks in Paris last Friday in which 129 people died.
She said it is time for a "new phase" in the fight against Islamic State: A more effective U.S.-led air campaign that will "have to be combined with ground forces actually taking back more territory."
The effort will require an "intelligence surge," she said, involving more Arabic speakers with expertise in the area and technical assets. There also should be no-fly zones over Syria and safe zones for people fleeing the violence, she added.

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Great! More "have to be combined with ground forces actually taking back more territory." and an "intelligence surge".

Let's exploit fear to get the nomination. It's SO DEMOCRATC PARTY!


BTW.... she's NOT the "Democratic presidential candidate". We haven't had the primaries yet.

For the 1st time, I don't know if I can vote for her in the general. What a friggin' LOUSY choice to have to make. I can't vote for a Republican war hawk, but I'm suppose to vote for a Democratic war hawk???

I'm embarrassed to be an American.

[brooklynite]

1. Um, you seem a bit upset...

BTW.... she's NOT the "Democratic presidential candidate". We haven't had the primaries yet.

Nobody said she was THE Democratic presidential candidate; she is A Democratic presidential candidate, and thus the designation is appropriate.

As for your concerns about her comments, perhaps Senator Sanders can tell us what he will do going forward? Saying "I told you so" won't address any of our current problems.

[AlbertCat]

2. Nobody said she was THE Democratic presidential candidate

I'm quoting the damn article!

"NEW YORK (Reuters) -- Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton on Thursday urged ...."

Try reading a little better next time.

Are Clinton supporters literally blind? "THE" good grief!

[leftofcool]

3. Try addressing the issue/question.

Again, what will Bernie do?

[AlbertCat]

6. Again, what will Bernie do?

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Hopefully not think WE have to fix everything...in the same manor that is the reason thing got this way in the 1st place.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. Not to be picayune...

Hopefully not think WE have to fix everything...in the same manor that is the reason thing got this way in the 1st place.

Not to be picayune but I believe you mean manner and not manor:

This is a manor:

[brooklynite]

5. she's a candidate for President, so she's a "Democratic Presidential Candidate"...

Nobody said she was the nominee.

What's your issue?

Bernie Sanders has always had a take-me-or-leave-me approach to his status as a self-described democratic socialist. But he will head to Georgetown University Thursday to explain precisely what that label means and why his values fit squarely in the American political system.

The Democratic presidential candidate has long been the only member of Congress even remotely self-associated with the word "socialist." But Sanders' bet is that things have changed -- and the label doesn't carry the baggage it once did.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/19/politics/bernie-sanders-democratic-socialism-speech-georgetown/index.html

[AlbertCat]

7. What's your issue?

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Yes... that is why I posted this. Forget the rest of the article. This is the real problem.




Technically, nobody is a "presidential candidate" yet. Not even Sanders. But we know how reporting in this country sucketh. Clinton was supposed to just skate on onto that position la-dee-da, and so I hate it when they push those buttons.

[OilemFirchen]

29. Clinton is a Presidential candidate.

There's plenty wrong with modern journalism, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with this.

Looks like some buttons press themselves.

[AlbertCat]

30. Clinton is a Presidential candidate.

I repeat.

"Technically, nobody is a "presidential candidate" yet. Not even Sanders. But we know how reporting in this country sucketh. Clinton was supposed to just skate on onto that position la-dee-da, and so I hate it when they push those buttons."


And please to continue to ignore her Hawkish status.

[OilemFirchen]

31. There are hundreds of contenders for the Presidency this term.

"Technically" and linguistically, they are all Presidential candidates.

That you've emotionally reacted to the proper, conventional use of a term is curious and informative.

[misterhighwasted]

16. Please stop it or take a break. Your accusations are insulting as is most of your OP, but...

Bush !!!, Hillary is certainly not. What do you suggest the best plan is to deal with ISIS & Terrorism globally?

She is quite far from a war hawk. What does Bernie Sanders propose? Hmm? I'll listen.

[AlbertCat]

23. I'll listen.

I doubt it. Since you're asking me and not waiting for him to respond.

This is one subject it might take some time to figure out instead of the knee jerk Conservative "go have a war" solution.

[misterhighwasted]

27. haa..still waiting for bernie to respond..

Bernie has no clue what foreign policy is about. Tucked away in his cozy NE /DC world for 25 yrs.
He is as ready to be Commander in Chief as you or I .
What ya say burnie?
Chirp...

[AlbertCat]

28. still waiting for bernie to respond..

I don't know why?

He responded yesterday...it's on CBS news' web site.


See if you can get the Hillary Haze out of your eyes for just a few minutes and look before you go on about... something or other nonsense.

[aspirant]

8. Let's see:

More ground troops = more dead Americans

Hiring more Arab speakers for Intelligence, what's wrong with all the Arab speaking ME countries providing Intelligence and ground troops?

How much will it cost?

Al Queda, now Isis, who will be next with all these pissed off refugees.

All this military action again, tell me how peace evolves from all this killing

[msongs]

9. obama is bush III, so she would have to be bush 4 depending on where you place Jeb! nt

[oasis]

21. The entire topic is B-U-S-H.

[pansypoo53219]

10. thatcherish

[Avalux]

11. Here's the pickle Hillary is in right now - and I get it.

The GOP and others are doing everything they can to terrify us - I heard on CNN this morning that the person elected as president will be the one people feel will keep us safe.

Since the GOP and the media are wanting overwhelming warfare, Clinton is moving in that direction. If there's an attack here, it's probably a pretty good bet that the GOPer will win the election because the American people as a collective, are sheeple.

I have been incredibly critical of Hillary but I understand how nuanced all of this is.

If it comes down to Hillary vs. GOP, she can only win if she sounds like them.

THAT is the state of our national politics. There aren't enough of us who aren't afraid and want peace to be the majority. We'll end up voting for her anyway though, because the alternative is worse.

I am still betting on Bernie and the kids, but who knows what's going to happen with all this terrorism and war shit.

[oasis]

12. Check the news: Rabid religious zealots pose "a clear an present danger"

to America. No time for a jellyfish approach to this threat. It's time to
lead, follow, or step aside and let the pros take charge.

These colors don't run.

[Old Codger]

13. IF

You are agreeing that we need more boots on the ground and the attending danger that puts our troops in , when are you going to enlist??/

[oasis]

19. I proudly served, and would proudly serve again. Thanks for the invite.

[Old Codger]

22. Good deal

I also served my time but damn sure am not stupid enough to do so again... I lost my father in WWII I lost many friends in nam, and have a grandson over there right now who I worry about until he comes home in one piece.I have seen the caskets return from the ME in favor of the idiot president we had. I am not anything at all a "peacenik" type but the idiocy of attempting to force our democratic beliefs on people who have no interest in anything but just to get on with their lives... the entire fiasco is best referred to in relation to the crusades..

[oasis]

24. Thank you for your service, Old Codger. I'm not for

"Regime Change" by any stretch. The loonies of ISIS want to change the rest of the world to their way of "thinking". They are ready to die while they attempt kill every living soul on earth until their goal is accomplished.

They need to be squashed immediately.

[Old Codger]

25. I agree

But the Saudis and Egyptions and Iranis are already there and have the manpower to do the job and could do it pretty damn fast if they would get off their asses get to it.There is no reason on earth to send our troops except an ego thing....

[AlbertCat]

15. These colors don't run.

Yes, platitudes will help us so much.

[Skidmore]

14. Amazing!

I think I have stumbled into a Frank Luntz focus group. Am I supposed to click on a button or something when I hear a word that gets me going?

[JTFrog]

17. +1 nt

[sabrina 1]

20. More and more it seems obvious that her vote for the Iraq debacle which started all this was not

a 'mistake' as she recently called it.

[Thinkingabout]

26. Sanders no vote on ISIS Resolution has not halted anything ISIS wants to do. Now if he is president

What is he going to do, more of the same. We need a president strong on foreign affairs, he will not have time to learn.