2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhere do the candidates stand on labeling Genetically Modified Salmon?
Don't we have a right to know what we're eating?
The genetically engineered salmon a lightning rod in the debate about biotechnology in our food supply is a go. The Food and Drug Administration announced today that it has approved the salmon, making it the first genetically engineered animal cleared for consumption in the United States. Although genetically engineered is the term the FDA uses, the salmon, modified for fast growth with genes from other two edible fish, is commonly referred to as a genetically modified organism (GMO).
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The fishs lengthy approval process the salmons developer, AquaBounty Technologies, first approached the FDA 20 years ago is an indication of the many political and scientific obstacles. And then theres the labeling issue. The U.S., unlike many other countries, has no requirement to label genetically modified food, and the salmon is no exception. AquaBounty CEO Ron Stotish says that when the fish is introduced some two years down the road, it will probably not be identified as genetically engineered a decision I think is unfortunate (but more on that later). When youre the first and only, labeling is a dangerous decision, he says. Wed like to label it as a premium product, but well probably introduce it as Atlantic salmon.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/fda-approves-gmo-salmon-a-first-for-the-us-food-supply/2015/11/19/d5d1b60e-8ec3-11e5-acff-673ae92ddd2b_story.html
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Anyone that fucking stupid will not get my vote, and I will work against them.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)How is Hillary personally involved in supporting big agriculture? The Clinton Global Initiative (CGI), which gathers leaders to solve the world's problems, promotes Monsanto, the maker of RoundUp® and RoundUp Ready® seeds. Hugh Grant, Monsanto's Chairman and CEO spoke at the Clinton Global Initiative conference in September, 2014. Ms. Clinton's top campaign advisor, Jerry Crawford, was a lobbyist for Monsanto for years and is now the political pro for her Super PAC, "Ready for Hillary." Clinton spoke in favor of the government's Feed the Future (FtF) program, a USAID funded, corporate-partnered program that brings RoundUp Ready® technology to the most vulnerable populations of the world. Monsanto and Dow Chemical support Hillary and Bill's 'Clinton Foundation' with generous donations.
Senator Bernie Sanders represents Vermont, the first state in the nation to pass a "right to know" GMO labeling law. He authored an amendment to the 2013 farm bill that would have given states the ability to require labeling so that they don't have to fight for it, state by state, through propositions on the ballot. Sanders' amendment was defeated 71 to 27 in the Senate, even though 93 percent of Americans want GMOs labeled.
The rest:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/judy-frankel/hillary-vs-bernie-on-fran_b_7638846.html
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)bunnies
(15,859 posts)in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)Tom Vilsack, USDA Secretary
As Iowa Governor, Tom Vilsack was a leading advocate for Monsanto, genetic engineering, and factory farming. President Obama proudly lauded his new Agriculture Secretary for "promoting biotech."
Vilsack has, in fact, promoted the most controversial and dangerous forms of agricultural biotechnology, including pharma crops, plants genetically engineered to produce pharmaceuticals. When grown outdoors on farmland, where most pharma crop trials have occurred, pharma crops can easily contaminate conventional and organic varieties.
In one chilling example from 2002, a corn crop engineered by ProdiGene to produce a vaccine for pigs contaminated 500,000 bushels of soybeans that were grown in the Nebraska field the next season. Before this incident, a similar thing had happened in Iowa where the USDA ordered ProdiGene to pay for the burning of 155 acres of conventional corn that may have been contaminated by the firm's biotech plants.
ProdiGene eventually went out of business, but not before it received a $6 million investment from the Governors Biotechnology Partnership, chaired by Iowa Governor Vilsack. Vilsack didn't want any restrictions placed on experimental pharma crops. In reaction to suggestions that pharma crops should be kept away from food crops, Vilsack argued that "we should not overreact and hamstring this industry."
https://www.organicconsumers.org/old_articles/usda_watch.php
bunnies
(15,859 posts)Though unsurprising. *smh*
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)She is NOT good for this country.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)Not happening. If they're not labeling, I'm not eating it!
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)I'm not eating that crap.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)I just hope these Frankenfish don't get loose.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)However, though they were growing Atlantic salmon in cages, it was in the Atlantic in Europe. I can't away impressed with their operation, growing and providing good food.
I still disagree totally with having them in the Pacific as there is too much risk of them getting out and bringing diseases to our wild fish.
But in the Atlantic where there are no such thing, where those fish already live? Seems OK to me so long as they get good food and are in good water.
I know this thread is about GMO, but wanted to share otherwise with you.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)but not this Frankenfish. If someone else wants to eat it, fine, but it should definitely be labeled for what it is. Our Costco and other stores here say they won't sell it. I hope they stand by that.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)How about a "Chicken Little" sandwich or a "Vat Pork" slice with a little relish?
Salmon that is genetically modifies with genes for faster growth will seem like a minor issue, once those products hit the market, and they will.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)the main difference is that the ones now are completely plant based, where the ones you refer to will have a non death produced starter of animal cells. both are basically processed foods. the main difference is whether people are ok with the animal starter. as a vegan, i am not, but many will be ok with it. it also avoids the pollution/resource issues of big ag, foodborne illness, antibiotic resistance, hormones, and of course, animal slaughter.
it won't be for everyone, but as the earth will be forced to move to a more plant based diet, it may be an acceptable option for many who still want the taste and texture of real flesh.
and for germophobes who hate the idea of bacteria in their food, it will be a dream come true
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Hillary, not so much as far as I know!
LWolf
(46,179 posts)Transparency.
I eat wild-caught Salmon when I eat fish. I don't eat fish that often, thinking about our over-fished, polluted, and now too-warm oceans. I live near rivers and lakes that I can catch trout and salmon out of, although I haven't fished in many years.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)where a vast majority of the people WANT their food labeled and where their government ignores them in favor of Monsanto.
GMOs are coming under fire everywhere now also, banned in many countries since the findings that they do cause cancer.
But not here. We are no longer represented. Our Government is owned by Corporations.
Great that you are near rivers and lakes where you can get fish yourself.
We are too and we grow our own organic vegetables, fruit etc which was already here, apple trees, plum trees etc, and we know there are no GMOs in anything we grow from old seeds.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)The same folks that (rightly) mock those that deny climate science are some of the same to engage in anti-GMO hysteria.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)The fear of food..any food.. is becoming endemic. Someone in another thread actually said we shouldn't eat fish at all. Of course, red meat is by definition the devil's meal and poultry is his fiends' banquet.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)and you have folks running around in a country that has too much food talking about what you "shouldn't eat."
Go ahead and get your $8.50/lb. green beans from Whole Foods. Maybe the price of GMOs will drop for the rest of us.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Why the Bernie Sanders logo with the 3rd way logo? Those are like opposites.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)Poking fun at how some people around here behave