Hillary Clinton Attacks Bernie Sanders’ Progressive Agenda

[pinebox]

But she's a progressive right? Wrong.

Hillary Clinton Attacks Bernie Sanders’ Progressive Agenda-Why is she talking like a REPUBLICAN?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/clinton-sanders-taxes_564bcbbfe4b06037734ba1bd?ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000016§ion=politics

This is why Hillary Clinton makes so many progressives queasy.

The former secretary of state and front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination has launched a new attack on her chief rival, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). The subject is taxes and Sanders' apparent willingness to raise them, even on the middle class, to pay for his ambitious domestic agenda.

Sanders has proposed a variety of new programs designed to help Americans pay for everything from child care to college tuition. Most famously, Sanders is also a longtime proponent of “single-payer” health insurance -- in other words, expanding Medicare so everybody, not just the elderly, could enroll in it.

Fallon’s comments were neither offhand nor off-script. On the contrary, they were part of a rhetorical campaign that began during Saturday’s Democratic presidential debate, when Clinton stated that "hard-working, middle class families need a raise, not a tax increase." Shortly after the debate was over, Jennifer Granholm, the former Michigan governor who is a senior adviser to a pro-Clinton organization that coordinates with the official campaign, reinforced that argument with a tweet:

So Hillary wants to hit Bernie over a tax increase yet at the same time she is against single payer and a living wage? Absolute defense of the status and a continuation that allows people to rely on Government assistance who work low wage jobs. Many of these people can't even afford the monthly deductible for health plans. A single payer system would alleviate this along with a living wage. It balances out. Sure Hillary, go ahead and hit Bernie and spin away while the reality is that the American middle class isn't the richest in the world anymore, Canada is http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/04/how-did-canadas-middle-class-get-so-rich/361053/ who has higher taxes than we do and single payer.

Reality.

[Scuba]

1. Hillary is a progressive in the same way Bristol Palin is a virgin.

[99Forever]

4. ***Thread Win ***

[daybranch]

89. Bingo + 1000

If I knew how to make clapping hands I would. But let me say thank you for a thought that really makes the point to those caring enough to learn what progressive values and progressive policies really are, as I did by reading Lakoff and finding I had always been a Progressive. Go Bernie!

[Fuddnik]

5. Bingo!!!!

[mindwalker_i]

6. Oh damn

Dayum!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

10. Right on!

[Segami]

31. +1

Hillary's campaign poll-tested whether Hillary 'was or was not' a progressive.....

Spreadsheets indicate monthly instability.......

[daleanime]

35. ........

[Ed Suspicious]

40. !!!!!

[Bubzer]

46. ...

[Aerows]

63. I forget who said it

but someone called her Barstool Palin

[Samantha]

74. OMG - I can't quit laughing

Just too good.

Sam

[daybranch]

88. Maybe Hillary just sucumbed to peer pressure by the class she curries favor with

Lets not blame her, just making bad choices under the wrong influences. I heard Bill smoked marijuana, just wondering why he is not giving it to Hillary today to soothe her warlike impulses at least until she can convince public she is caring through the election. Yes Bernie speaks loudly telling us what he believes he wants us to know with an an authentic, consistent passion. Hillary smirks on the side, touches his arm to get attention to herself, and gives wishy washy answers basically asking asking her to trust me- I am not a crook. Well her support of those 1 percenters recognized as crooks who almost destroyed our country does not portray her as being on our side and we know from experiences that money corrupts according to its magnitude.
Heck maybe she is a conservative republican again or worse a greedy politicians with no values other than self promotion but then who knows? Just because she walks like a duck, has feathers like a duck, hangs out with other ducks, and quacks like like a duck is no reason to believe she is not a duck , she says after all she is speaking out for women consistently and alll over the world even as other ducks try to prevent women from having human rights just like the men running are but her sex makes her better qualified no matter how much stronger the positions of the men are in supporting women and the family. I am a woman dammit, It is time for a woman President and I am the only one here, you elected a black man, so it is time for a woman. Do it for the symbol, who cares that I am at best Rockerfeller republican- lite and at worst another third wayer seeking to support rich donors while labeling myself a democrat and destroying democratic values . I am not providing underlying facts here and any more rationale for my opinion, I have done it time and again and all we get in response is no facts, just thoughtless braying of establishment loyalists of polling stating Hillary is winning or half-truths couched in one line sound bites ignorance the facets of the particular issues in order to support a predetermined position of candidate loyalty rather than frank and open discussion of issues.

[Thinkingabout]

2. Sanders said he was going to tax the rich, then he proposes an increase in income taxes, WTH, this

Is one of the reasons I dont buy into the taxing the rich he talked so often.

[HerbChestnut]

26. You do understand

That a tax to pay for universal healthcare will actually cost *less* than private insurance.

[daleanime]

36. Don't think that will any difference....

when you're looking for a reason to be against some one you claim to agree with, you take what you can get.

[Thinkingabout]

67. You do understand this is a tax on low income people, the 1%, they will not be affected. Again the

low income people will be paying for health insurance for the 1%, you do understand this, right?

[HerbChestnut]

72. It is ****CHEAPER***** than private health insurance.

Those low income people will *save* money by not having to pay insurance premiums. And guess what, Bernie's 2013 legislation had a progressive tax structure, which means high income earners pay more.

Would you rather pay $500/mo on private health insurance or $400/mo in taxes

Disclaimer: Those numbers are made up, but they get the point across.

[Thinkingabout]

73. Yes it will be cheaper, like free for the 1%, now that is a deal they like. Tax those other people,

No additional taxes on the 1% and they get free health insurance. Wow.

[HerbChestnut]

75. That's just not true, and you know it.

Go and read the legislation. If you aren't willing to do that then you're wasting everybody's time.

[Thinkingabout]

78. Wasting everyones time, research the tax rate Romney pays, even Warren Buffett said he was paying

Lower rates than his secretary.

[bravenak]

79. Low income people are often covered by Medicaid. Why should they get a tax increase?

They already cannot pay for medical and often are on food assistance. He is wrong for even contemplating a tax increase on lower and middle class families. Most Americans are not interested, and the polls show it.

[HerbChestnut]

81. What polls are those?

The ones I'm familiar with show that most people want a universal healthcare system.

[bravenak]

83. The polls that say people do not want a tax increase.

[HerbChestnut]

84. Ah, I see.

Well, it would be interesting to see if those same folks realize that private insurance costs them more than the proposed tax increase for universal healthcare.

[bravenak]

85. They want tax increases on the wealthy but not themselves.

I think people are so stubborn, that they would STILL reject a very sensible plan that provided universal healthcare because of their uninformed ideas about 'American Exceptionalism'. I wish we had robots to do all the work and just had a credit system with minimum incomes placed in our accounts monthy along with food and entertainment credits, and we could just vote each other more credits based off of how our community feels about the good we bring with our personal work. But that is my utopia and would be dystopic for many or most humans alive today; maybe in the future. I like communes too, good idea, communes.

[daybranch]

86. Will you quit bothering Clinton supporters , puhlease!!

They do not like analysis, or thinking about how things relate. Their only connected thought it appears is Hillary is leading in polls. We Bernie people know there is no such thing as a free lunch, we also understand that reducing the cost of this lunch by cutting out the middle men who furnish no real benefit (the health insurance companies, getting better prices (having our government as a big customer bargain with the pharmaceutical companies as the Veterans Administration does now and extend this to all phases of medical care), allowing customers to know what those sandwiches cost elsewhere (as Obamacare is starting to do comparing costs of procedures at different hospitals in the same vicinity), we also know volume is a key way to reduce costs per person served (including everyone equally certainly could cut out most of the insurance checking and claims filing done at hospital) and by encouraging early visits to doctors for ailments would increase national wellness and productivity, and if we get money from other people to help pay for that lunch (such as demanding, a word those who cater to the oligarchy are loathe to use, but necessary for a democracy, an increase in taxes for those who profit most from our work and our country and if necessary if after the revolution, democracy is restored it will be up to the people to decide what the rates will be and on whom they will apply).
So no, we Bernie supporters know that the key element of Bernies campaign is to return government to the people away from big Corporations, Banksters, Billionaires, Large insurance Companies, Hedge Fund mangers or other employees of Wall Street or Health Insurance Companies or the companies themselves. We also know this will not be easy or accomplished overnight but we are in this for the long haul. We may lose this battle but we have already done more to improve the prognosis for this country and its people by dragging, and it is a heavy load, Hillary further to the left as we reveal how much she looks beholden to the rich based on her their investment in her which do not appear coincidental to her stands on breaking up big banks, reinstating Glass -Streagull, opposing a call to $15 per hour instituted incrementally over several years, her objection to medicare for all as causing the middle class to pay more in taxes. If we are to believe Hillary-she is just smarter than Warren,and Bernie, and Sherrod Brown, and Obama, the Progressive Caucus and all of us who have labelled ourselves progressives as we have argued for the same things she fights as she negotiates very well for her very rich investors in her campaign. So stick with the non-analyzed 30 second sound bites if you want to criticize Bernie. It is often said that republicans do not do nuance, I find much the same about Hillary's discussion of the issues and the willingness of her supporters to swallow them without doing any real thinking other than Hillary a woman said it, so we want a woman president do we not girls, we are under attack and we must elect any woman, lets forget substance and values, and talk about qualification and how women's qualifications have to be better than men's. Qualification means you have done the right things and you have learned what the right things for the future are. Hillary's history and her stands on issues today impugn her integrity whether they arise from her closeness with her one percent donors, or from her own decisions. The more issues discussed, the more times her views seem to favor the 1 percent.

[starroute]

59. A household making $200,000 is not middle class

Here's a chart based on the Pew Charitable Trust definition of middle class as extending up to 200% of the median income and applying that on a state-by-state basis. The results range from $48,000-$144,000 in Maryland down to $25,000-$76,000 in Mississippi.
http://www.businessinsider.com/middle-class-in-every-us-state-2015-4

A lot of people making more than that may see themselves as middle class culturally -- in terms of where they live, how they furnish their houses, where they buy their clothing -- but they're decidedly in the top 20% of income earners. If we limit our definition of "rich" to the people with three houses and a yacht, we're not going to be able to meet the needs of the other 80%.

[Thinkingabout]

69. A 1% progressive tax is on the low income, this is not those making $200,000, it is the lowest

wages and up, the person is not on wages and is has capital gains, interest, dividends and royalties will not be paying the 1%. What do they get, health insurance on the backs of others.

[abelenkpe]

61. This is why we can't have anything nice

Do you not understand Sander's proposal or that raising the top marginal tax rate is a tax on the wealthy?

[Thinkingabout]

70. Where, on what, the wages they do not get? These people gets capital gains, dividends, interest and

royalties, it is not income or wages, it is taxed on a different rate. These are the wealthy 1%, he is proposing a 1% tax the low income pays to provide health insurance for the rich. That is a bummer.

[arcane1]

77. You never seem to mention that the poor and middle class will get healthcare too.

Gee, I wonder why. Maybe to dishonestly present single-payer as a giveaway to the 1%, and dishonestly imply that they, and only they, will benefit?

I can't believe this shit is being posted on DU.

[Thinkingabout]

82. Did I say the poor was not going to get insurance, no I did not, I did say wages will be subjected

To an increase in taxes, the 1% who does get wages will not pay for this. The over and over of taxing the rich, they can relax and get free health insurance.

[Fuddnik]

3. Because she's still a Goldwater Girl at heart?

[snooper2]

16. no she is a Chipotle girl

[JaneyVee]

7. How is it progressive to tax the middle class?

Hillary wants to raise wages, raise taxes on the rich, and no taxes on middle class.

[pinebox]

8. Let me explain

"Hillary wants to raise wages"

Right she does BUT not to a living wage. This in essence makes things like the ACA unaffordable for millions of people, from Walmart employees to McDonald's workers. This does nothing to help them at all.

See, here's the difference between us and you.

You see "tax hike" and that's all you see. The story however is a lot deeper than just that. Health care costs in America are very high & I think we can all agree on that. So what does this mean?

Single payer would ensure that everybody is covered. It also means that health care costs would actually be lower than what they are now. Look at Canada as example and how much Canadians pay. While their taxes are high, over all their middle class is richer. This is balance, either way you're going to have to pay for it, be it in taxes or be it how you are now. However, the way the delivery done is better. In the end, you pay less.

It's not just about taxes. It's about people fighting to feed themselves and to get the whole country covered with health insurance.
THAT is progressive!

[brooklynite]

11. Perhaps if Sanders explained HOW he's going to implement Single Payer...

...he won't be ushering in a progressive landslide in the House and Senate...because the candidates have already announced, and they're not the progressives you seem to like. They're mainstream Democrats, appropriate to the States they're running in.

Has Russ Feingold called for Single Payer in this election?

Joe Sestak? Alan Grayson?

No.

[pinebox]

14. Actually....

Bernie already has said and long ago how he's implementing single payer http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/32945-calculating-the-cost-of-bernie-sanders-single-payer-health-program


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/19/grayson-pushes-public-opt_n_506052.html

[brooklynite]

19. No - that tells me how he proposes to pay for it...I'm asking how he gets Congress to support it

[pinebox]

21. The same you do

by voting in dems.
Midterms are essential and unless we do, nothing is getting done. Hillary's policy, Bernie policy, green men from Mars policy.

[brooklynite]

24. We voted in Dems in 2006 and 2008...how did Single Payer work?

[think]

27. Obama refused to let John Conyers even bring it up. That's how it worked.

Obama to Single Payer Advocates: Drop Dead

March 3, 2009

President Obama’s White House made crystal clear this week: a Canadian-style, Medicare-for-all, single payer health insurance system is off the table.

Obama doesn’t even want to discuss it.

Take the case of Congressman John Conyers (D-Michigan).

Conyers is the leading advocate for single payer health insurance in Congress.

Last week, Conyers attended a Congressional Black Caucus meeting with President Obama at the White House.

During the meeting, Congressman Conyers, sponsor of the single payer bill in the House (HR 676), asked President Obama for an invite to the President’s Marchy 5 health care summit at the White House.

Conyers said he would bring along with him two doctors — Dr. Marcia Angell and Dr. Quentin Young — to represent the majority of physicians in the United States who favor single payer.

Obama would have none of it.

Read more:
http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/march/obama_to_single_paye.php

[brooklynite]

29. If Conyers HAD introduced it, what do you think would have happened?

We won the House on the strength of a lot of hated Blue Dogs. If we had run "real" Democrats instead, we wouldn't have won enough seats to control the House.

[think]

30. A lack of discussion GUARANTEES it won't happen. The American people deserved to understand what was

possible.

If it wasn't for Bernie Sanders most Americans would still not understand that America is the only major industrialized nation that does not guarantee healthcare a basic human right.

Not discussing an issue because it might not happen is tantamount to censorship as the American people were not told about an option that the rest of the modern world already have chosen.

[pinebox]

42. Doesn't that speak volumes about our system

and how many lawmakers are in the pockets of special interest?

[Amimnoch]

32. The same way he'll become President.. by clicking his heals:

Really, nobody has been able to ever explain just what congress is going to be elected to produce the unicorns.

Big ideas, no ability. All those years as in Congress, and only 3.. that's right only THREE bills this man has either sponsored or Co-sponsored made it into Law. Ironically 2 of those were for the postal service (now we know why they chose to endorse him)

[pinebox]

43. As opposed to this?

This though is hilarious ;

Really, nobody has been able to ever explain just what congress is going to be elected to produce the unicorns.

Big ideas, no ability. All those years as in Congress, and only 3.. that's right only THREE bills this man has either sponsored or Co-sponsored made it into Law. Ironically 2 of those were for the postal service (now we know why they chose to endorse him)

And yet magically you think Hillary will be able to wave some special wand and get everything done even though she's the most polarizing figure in ALL of politics and the right hates her so much that they're already threatening to impeach her on day 1? lol Riiiight.

[Thinkingabout]

76. brook you might like the way he is going to pay for single payer, 1% tax increase,

Who gets to pay, those who have wages, not capital gains, dividends, interest and royalties, sounds good, those like Trump and Romney gets free health insurance. BS on taxing the, dont worry about that one, got plenty of other people to pay.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

12. Excellent explanation! Bernie gets this...soon all of us.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[JaneyVee]

13. The difference between $12/hr and $15/hr is Bernie's tax hike.

And Bernie even admitted that he is not getting single payer.

[pinebox]

15. No Janie the difference is single payer

and covering millions of people who currently aren't because they can't afford premiums under the ACA.
Do you have a problem with insuring millions who can't afford health insurance yet make too much to be given Medicaid?

[JaneyVee]

17. Expand Medicaid.

[pinebox]

18. LOL Janie Janie Janie

Yes sure you could do that BUT you do realize that your cost is going to go up, right? It doesn't address rising health care cosst

[JaneyVee]

20. Better bargaining for drug prices.

[pinebox]

22. No what we need is regulation

because bargaining just gives them the upper hand and we can go ahead and lift the ban on import of Canadian drugs & allowing Canadian pharmacies back in to America to do business, something Obama should have done.

This is one area where we get our asses handed to us hard...the cost of prescription drugs.

[JaneyVee]

23. That is in her healthcare policy proposals already.

[pinebox]

44. Which part?

[zalinda]

53. If I'm not mistaken

Medicaid is administered by the state, but Medicare is federal. So that means Republican Governors can decide what Medicaid can and can't cover. Besides Medicare is a much bigger organization, so it has larger bargaining power than Medicaid.

Z

[ChiciB1]

54. I Myself Understand How You've Explained This, AND

it does make a lot of sense. What Hillary is doing is trying to deflect her position of not raising wages more by focusing on ONE point of Bernie's position. BECAUSE she's able to get MORE coverage than the other candidates she's fully aware of "how to play" this game.

Because her stance about wages caused blow back, coming up with THIS strategy is their way of attacking and deflecting the focus on her unpopular position.

We here at DU are the political junkies who "get this" unfortunately this country has become so uninformed and have blinders on in a sense. What happens is a family member, a friend or people they work with say they support Hillary WITHOUT giving specifics as to why, a neophyte will follow along simply "because" it's the POPULAR thing to do.

I've seen it happen so many times and when I've tried to EXPLAIN real FACTS I know most of them won't listen. Basically, not realizing they're going to vote against what is best for them. Can I say... AN UNINFORMED ELECTORATE???

[Armstead]

9. Wait a couple of years if she gets in

"I didn't realize how serious our fiscal problems are, and I must reluctantly announce..."

[LiberalLovinLug]

60. Exactly

This after in those first years she pays back her friends, with Bush inspired tax cuts, subsidies, and TPP approval, that helped get her elected.

[NCTraveler]

25. Good for Clinton.

The middle class can't handle any more beatings. Time to fight for them and stop acting as if they are the problem. Love the rhetoric.

[Amimnoch]

28. So you believe in increasing the tax burdon on the middle class?

gotcha. If that's what ya'll want to call "progressive" leave me out of it.

[pinebox]

45. You missed this didn't you

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251827923#post8

"Hillary wants to raise wages"

Right she does BUT not to a living wage. This in essence makes things like the ACA unaffordable for millions of people, from Walmart employees to McDonald's workers. This does nothing to help them at all.

See, here's the difference between us and you.

You see "tax hike" and that's all you see. The story however is a lot deeper than just that. Health care costs in America are very high & I think we can all agree on that. So what does this mean?

Single payer would ensure that everybody is covered. It also means that health care costs would actually be lower than what they are now. Look at Canada as example and how much Canadians pay. While their taxes are high, over all their middle class is richer. This is balance, either way you're going to have to pay for it, be it in taxes or be it how you are now. However, the way the delivery done is better. In the end, you pay less.

It's not just about taxes. It's about people fighting to feed themselves and to get the whole country covered with health insurance.
THAT is progressive!

[arcane1]

50. And doing away with insurance premiums and copays? Hell yes I do!

Hillary would prefer the insurance companies continue to make your medical decisions for you. For a price.

[stupidicus]

33. the short answer -- 3rdwayers are the lesser evil cousins of rightwingers

and in some cases, only slightly less dispicable.

[Fuddnik]

47. Or maybe just a less competent evil.

[bobbobbins01]

34. That is such a dishonest tweet.

In the same sentence as mentioning taxing the middle class she mentions raising it to 90%...Am I supposed to conclude that as a member of the middle class I'll be paying a 90% tax rate? Because that is what is very strongly implied there. That a person who makes $100000 a year would bring home $10k.

Not only am I astonished that this kind of BS gets spread around, I find it extremely insulting to the intelligence of the democratic party as a whole that we're expected to swallow this nonsense. Show me where Bernie Sanders says anything about raising middle class taxes to 90%. This is textbook class warfare.

[arcane1]

51. Exactly. Jennifer Granholm is a bold-faced liar, and so is anyone who quotes her n/t

[Qutzupalotl]

58. Right. What he said was he was not as big a socialist as Eisenhower

who had a top marginal tax rate of 90%.

Sanders didn't say he would raise it to 90%, he said just the opposite, that he wouldn't.

That didn't stop Granholm from distorting his words to try to help her candidate. Disgusting.

[thesquanderer]

87. Right, and even those high figures being tossed around...

...weren't targeted at the middle class.

I lost respect for Granholm on this one.

[abelenkpe]

65. You have no idea how many intelligent, educated liberals I know who think that raising the top

marginal tax rate to 90 percent means they would be paying 90 percent. We're talking lawyers, engineers, teachers, programmers. It's going to be very difficult erasing this misperception.

[bobbobbins01]

66. My mother though it for years.

I didn't even realize it until a car trip with her a few months ago when I brought up Bernie Sanders. She fell into the same trap many people do. Now if only I could get her to stop voting republican.

[Vinca]

37. My biggest fear about Hillary is that, if elected, she'll revert to GOP lite.

[Old Codger]

39. ????

Revert???

[Vinca]

64. Maybe I should have said "revert back to."

She has, after all, been trying to out-Bernie Bernie.

[Javaman]

48. Not my fear.

I believe it.

all of her progressive this and that will quickly fall by the waste side after she utters the last few words of her swearing in.

from then on, status quo.

[TBF]

56. Revert? nt

[WillyT]

38. HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!!

[ibegurpard]

41. She has to

Because trying to convince people HER agenda is progressive has not worked.

[SoapBox]

49. Clinton is simply not acceptable.

And Granholm...what a disappointment she is...should have known she would be smack dab in the Entrenched "1980's" Establishment Crowd...it's their last gasp of relevancy and power.

No...More...Clinton.

[Faux pas]

52. Feelin' the Bern kick

[bl968]

55. 9% lets look at what they get.

9% on someone making $52,000 per year = $390 per month, and they get for full medical and dental coverage for the entire family.

The estimated cost for a silver plan $806 per month ($9,666 per year), and this would still leave you with substantial out of pocket costs.

Lets look at what Sanders plan would cover by expanding medicare to everyone...

Abdominal aortic aneurysm screening
Acupuncture
Air-fluidized beds & other support surfaces
Alcohol misuse screening & counseling
Ambulance services
Ambulatory surgical centers
Anesthesia
Artificial eyes & limbs
Bariatric surgery
Blood
Blood processing & handling
Blood sugar (glucose) monitors
Blood sugar (glucose) test strips
Bone mass measurement (bone density)
Braces (arm, leg, back, and neck)
Breast prostheses
Canes
Cardiac rehabilitation programs
Cardiovascular disease (behavioral therapy)
Cardiovascular disease screenings
Cataract surgery
Cervical & vaginal cancer screenings
Chemotherapy
Chiropractic services
Clinical research studies
Colorectal cancer screenings
Commode chairs
Concierge care
Continuous glucose monitoring (CGM) devices
Continuous passive motion (CPM) machine
Cosmetic surgery
Crutches
Custodial care
Defibrillator (implantable automatic)
Dental services
Depression screenings
Diabetes screenings
Diabetes self-management training
Diabetes supplies & services
Diagnostic tests, X-rays, & clinical laboratory services
Dialysis (children)
Dialysis (kidney) services & supplies
Doctor & other health care provider services
Drugs
Durable medical equipment (DME) coverage
EKG (electrocardiogram) screening
Emergency department services
Enteral nutrition supplies & equipment (feeding pump)
Eye exams
Eyeglasses/contact lenses
Federally qualified health center services
Flu shots
Foot care
Foot exam
Glaucoma tests
Glucose control solutions
Gym membership & fitness programs
Health education & wellness programs
Hearing & balance exams & hearing aids
Hepatitis B shots
Hepatitis C screening test
HIV screening
Home health services
Hospice & respite care
Hospital beds
Humidifiers
Hyperbaric oxygen (HBO) therapy
Incontinence supplies & adult diapers
Infusion pumps & supplies
Inpatient hospital care
Insulin
Kidney disease education
Kidney transplants (adults)
Kidney transplants (children)
Laboratory services (clinical)
Lancet devices & lancets
Long-term care
Long-term care hospitals
Lung cancer screening
Macular degeneration
Mammograms
Manual wheelchairs & power mobility devices
Massage therapy
Mental health care (inpatient)
Mental health care (outpatient)
Mental health care (partial hospitalization)
Nebulizers & nebulizer medications
Nursing home care
Nutrition therapy services (medical)
Obesity screening & counseling
Orthotics & artificial limbs & eyes
Osteoporosis drugs for women
Ostomy supplies
Outpatient hospital services
Oxygen equipment & accessories
Pancreas transplants (adults)
Patient lifts
Physical therapy/occupational therapy/speech-language pathology services
Pneumococcal shots
Prescription drugs (outpatient)
Preventive & screening services
Preventive visit & yearly wellness exams
Prostate cancer screenings
Prosthetic devices
Pulmonary rehabilitation program
Radiation therapy
Religious non-medical health care institution (RNHCI) items & services
Rural health clinic services
Second surgical opinions
Sexually transmitted infections (STI) screening & counseling
Shingles shot
Shots (vaccinations)
Skilled nursing facility (SNF) care
Sleep apnea & Continuous Positive Airway Pressure (CPAP) devices & accessories
Sleep study
Smoking & tobacco use cessation (counseling to stop smoking or using tobacco products)
Substance-related disorders
Suction pumps
Supplies (you use at home)
Surgery (estimating costs)
Surgical dressing services
Tdap shot (tetanus, diphtheria, & pertussis shot)
Telehealth
Therapeutic shoes or inserts
Traction equipment
Transplants (adults)
Transportation
Travel (when you need health care outside the U.S.)
Urgently needed care
Walkers
X-rays
Yearly eye exam
Your Medicare coverage

Sounds like a fucking deal to me.

[geardaddy]

57. Medicare already covers renal transplants

no matter your age. It covers both the recipient and living donor. Although the coverage is only 80% and the rest has to be made up by supplemental insurance.

[zappaman]

62. ok. n/t

[Beacool]

68. The main difference to me between both is that Hillary is a pragmatist and Bernie is an idealist.

Obama's agenda, by comparison to Bernie's, is modest and he has had to climb mountains to get anything out of Congress. How does Sanders propose to get anything passed with the Republicans holding majorities in both houses, particularly with the Tea Party members? Heck, even Boehner threw in the towel because he couldn't control those nut jobs.

How does a Democratic nominee hope to get elected in the g.e. if he/she proposes to raise taxes for the middle class? That's not a selling proposition and the Republicans would jump all over it.

[pinebox]

71. As I've said many times

This is how

http://www.nationaljournal.com/s/71225/bernie-sanders-is-loud-stubborn-socialist-republicans-like-him-anyway

[Hepburn]

80. Well, she is a step ahead of where I thought she would be.

She actually identified things which could be termed progressive. And here I did not think she could even get that far!