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riversedge

(70,302 posts)
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:01 PM Nov 2015

Sanders hesitates on socialism speech

I was wondering if he would still give this speech since he is now a Democrat--but seems just still on hold




http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/bernie-sanders-socialism-speech-215965


Sanders hesitates on socialism speech


Once sure-footed and decisive in expressing his views, the Vermont senator now appears to be holding back on the details of his big-picture ideas.

By Annie Karni

11/17/15 10:01 AM EST


Bernie Sanders’ ballyhooed speech on socialism is now on indefinite hold.

Details about how Sanders would pay for his proposed single-payer national health insurance program to provide Medicare for all Americans have yet to be fleshed out -- even though a July 30 post on his campaign website says the Vermont senator would file legislation on single-payer “perhaps as soon as next week.”

And with two-and-a-half months to go before the first votes of 2016 are cast, the candidate whose raison d’etre is ending income inequality has yet to unveil any details of his tax plan, such as whose tax rates would go up and by how much.

As Sanders attempts to evolve from a niche politician who appeals to a frustratingly uniform group of young, white progressive voters to a major threat to the Hillary Clinton presidential juggernaut, he appears to be stalled on the threshold of mainstream success. Once sure-footed and decisive in expressing his view of the most important issue facing the country, income inequality, Sanders now appears to be holding back, hesitant to put meat on the bones of his big-picture ideas.

The socialism speech – billed by his campaign as a major address where Sanders, a self-described Democratic socialist, would finally explain his definition of a politically loaded term that is deeply personal to him – provides perhaps the most concrete example.................

But it’s been postponed indefinitely because Sanders has not yet finished writing the high-risk speech, or agreed that he is ready to deliver it. The delay highlights another issue facing the Sanders camp – an apparent disconnect between the candidate and his staffers, who say they are pushing the senator to give his speech sooner rather than later..............






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Sanders hesitates on socialism speech (Original Post) riversedge Nov 2015 OP
I hope he cancels it MaggieD Nov 2015 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #3
Yes, that's what I think MaggieD Nov 2015 #5
Why would she post it if it wasn't what she thought? DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #7
It is an important speech... Punkingal Nov 2015 #2
Sanders needs to give a speech on how he would protect this country from terrorism and enemies Renew Deal Nov 2015 #4
I supported Ted Kennedy in 1980... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #8
Sanders is not even a socialist if you ask socialists. He should call himself a Social Democrat AZ Progressive Nov 2015 #6
No one is calling him a socialist except the RW-and they call Hillary riversedge Nov 2015 #9
Indeed. I fear he sunk his electoral boat with that misguided choice of adjective/noun. libdem4life Nov 2015 #10
time to piss or get off the pot GusBob Nov 2015 #11
Long overdue. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #12
 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
1. I hope he cancels it
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:04 PM
Nov 2015

I see no benefit to him branding the Democratic party as socialist since he's not going to win the nomination anyway.

Response to MaggieD (Reply #1)

Renew Deal

(81,871 posts)
4. Sanders needs to give a speech on how he would protect this country from terrorism and enemies
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:07 PM
Nov 2015

This has become a major issue in the campaign and it's clearly hurting Sanders.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
8. I supported Ted Kennedy in 1980...
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:22 PM
Nov 2015

When his campaign was fledgling he gave a speech at Georgetown espousing his liberal philosophy. While he didn't win the speech motivated his supporters and allowed him to make a decent showing.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
6. Sanders is not even a socialist if you ask socialists. He should call himself a Social Democrat
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:18 PM
Nov 2015

Which is far more like the liberals in Western Europe.

riversedge

(70,302 posts)
9. No one is calling him a socialist except the RW-and they call Hillary
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:06 PM
Nov 2015

a socialist also. But I think he should explain what He means by that term

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
10. Indeed. I fear he sunk his electoral boat with that misguided choice of adjective/noun.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:25 PM
Nov 2015

But it could have been that he could not call himself a Democrat of any stripe if he were not registered as such.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
11. time to piss or get off the pot
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:39 PM
Nov 2015

they have been playing footsy about this speech too long.

Its a super bad idea to act like they are "hesitating" or call it a "risky" speech. Makes it sound like a bad thing. If the patient has cancer, don't piss around trying to tell him. If the candidate has the cure, lets hear it

also if he is waiting to get the words out, or get them right....the longer he waits the more it sounds like he has no idea about his own agenda

and finally after all the hemming and hawing if it comes out flat and closer to the first primary.....could be trouble

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