Bernie Sanders Won the Debate. Hillary Clinton Evoked 9/11 and Sounded Like A Republican

[Omaha Steve]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/bernie-sanders-debate-hillary-clinton-republican_b_8572842.html

H. A. Goodman Posted: 11/16/2015 11:15 am EST

While one poll had Hillary Clinton the winner of the debate, a closer look shows that this survey was "conducted for the pro-Clinton super-PAC Correct The Record." In reality, Bernie Sanders won the second Democratic debate because he focused solely on veterans' issues, Wall Street corruption and climate change. Most importantly, an online poll by DeRay McKesson of 42,575 votes showed 83 percent of respondents believed Bernie Sanders won the debate.

In addition, top Ohio Democrat Nina Turner switched from Clinton to Bernie Sanders just before the debate, signifying a major shift in an important swing state. Black Women 4 Bernie Tweeted a video of Ms. Turner explaining why she's endorsing Bernie Sanders for president. While Clinton's endorsements have little to do with her trustworthiness or leadership skills, and everything to do with political power within the Democratic Party, Ms. Turner explains in the video exactly why Bernie's message resonates with her and millions of other Americans. "He should be the president of the United States of America," says Ms. Turner, and I agree completely in this video.

In contrast, Bernie's challenger sounded like a Republican. Clinton said the words "war" seven times, "jihadist" four times, "terrorist" three times, and spoke about "radical jihadists" and "jihadi radicalism." Taking a play out of the Bush/Cheney playbook, Clinton evoked 9/11 when asked about Wall Street donors. In a bizarre defense for accepting hundreds of thousands of dollars from Wall Street firms, Hillary Clinton evoked the emotions of September 11, 2001. As a result, Martin O'Malley pounced upon the irrational response to a legitimate question.

An article titled "Martin O'Malley unloads on Clinton's 9/11 comments" at MSNBC explains how both Dr. Cornel West and O'Malley felt Clinton's answer made little sense:

Cornel West, the Princeton professor and radical activist, spoke on Sanders' behalf and was even more critical of Clinton than the senator was the night before. "I took Wall Street money but it didn't affect me?" he said in disbelief of "my dear sister Hillary Clinton."

FULL story at link. Read through the replies too.

[Metric System]

1. Hack Attack!

[riversedge]

2. oh my gawd ohama--posting the Hack.

[JaneyVee]

3. Yes, he "won" by not giving any specifics.

Doesn't have a Wall Street policy and his tax proposal is somewhere between 50%-90%. If this is our nominee we're fucked.

[rhett o rick]

8. Sen Sanders and his millions of supporters want to fight the corrupt system of big money

that controls our government. All Democrats should agree. No Democrats should welcome the control of the billionaires.

Goldman-Sachs doesn't care about our poor. They want bigger profits at the expense of the 99%. Are you sure you picked the correct side.

HRC does have a solid Wall Street policy, no regulations.

[JaneyVee]

10. Millions of supporters? He doesn't have a million contributors or twitter followers.

Let alone "millions". Go read her policy. I dare you.

[rhett o rick]

11. She told Goldman-Sachs at one of her speechs that she thought that bankers shouldn't be

blamed. They applauded and wrote her a check for her personal fortune of $200,000. Do you understand quid pro quo?

[rhett o rick]

13. When you are right you are right. He has 23k short of a million twitter followers.

I am not one of them and I bet there is another 977,000 followers that also don't follow on twitter.

The point is that these followers are enthused because they see an opportunity to fight against big money in politics. While HRC is happy to enjoy the fruits of big money. Can you say quid pro quo? Those billionaires will want big returns on their investment.

I would love to read HRC's Wall Street policy. I bet you have it right at hand. I don't so maybe you'd give me a link.

[JonLeibowitz]

20. .

Total Voting Age population: 235MM (caveat: not all of these are registered, but adjust final figure for ratio of registered voters)
Democratic Party Registration %: 30 (Gallup)
Bernie Support amongst likely Democratic voters %: 33.5 (Real Clear Politics Average)
==> Number of Bernie Supporters among likely Democratic voters: 23.6MM

[merrily]

26. Are you saying donors and tweeters are supporters? LOL!

[daleanime]

19. ........

[MissDeeds]

4. K&R

[Hepburn]

5. KNR

I just cannot believe that she got so low that she channeled Rudy G. Wow...I don't particularly like Hillary, but it still really disappointed me to see 9/11 used this way.

[WillyT]

6. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!

[DianeK]

7. keepin' it kicked!

[rhett o rick]

9. I wish there were more debates. Sen Sanders gets stronger every debate and HRC gets more

and more flustered. She's worn out her talking points.

[merrily]

27. Funny thing about that...nt

[azmom]

12. K&R

[pnwmom]

14. Once again a DUer is touting the opinions of the fake progressive who endorsed RAND PAUL

just a year ago.

H.A. Goodman has been attacking Hillary ever since.

Wake up, people!

[Omaha Steve]

25. It is in the Huffington Post (progressive last I knew)

But I will gladly take it down when sigs like this are gone:

OS

[pnwmom]

35. So? MSNBC gives Scarboro a platform. Huffington gives Goodman one. That still

doesn't make this Paul-endorser a progressive.

[merrily]

29. Once again, pnwmom engages in source shaming (of a lifelong Dem) rather than refutation

As the author said, apparently only Hillary is allowed to "evolve."

[pnwmom]

36. Goodman's not a lifelong Dem. Goodman endorsed Paul just a year ago,

saying Paul's positions on the economy were unimportant. Ask Bernie if he'd agree with that.

[merrily]

37. Sorry, no. Voted for Gore, Kerry, etc. Lifelong Dem.

As for endorsing Paul a year ago, you've been repeating that tidbit, which refutes nothing he wrote anyway, incessantly so my prior post covered it.

[UglyGreed]

15. Hillary supporters

call me the GOP sexist infiltrator yet their candidate of choice sounds like a Republican????

[Bread and Circus]

16. She did sound like a Republican... a lot

[Evergreen Emerald]

17. Sanders is blessed with people who do not dissect his statements like they do Clinton's

--He blew the opening, giving short shrift to the Paris tragedy
--He basically said that job loss no big deal and a normal consequence to plans
--He did not know what he was talking about when he discussed the middle east and Clinton had to set him straight.
--He refused to admit that he was wrong when it came to gun control and said he would "look at it." If Clinton is responsible for Iraqi deaths, than he is the direct cause of millions of deaths due to his stances on gun control.
--he does not understand the difference between banks and "shadow banks" and kept talking about them interchangeably.
--His statement that terrorism is due to climate change shows an ignorance about history.
--His blaming Clinton for terrorism, ignoring the historical context, shows a shallowness of knowledge that is not presidential quality.

To name a few.

Now imagine if Clinton had said those things. Conversely, very word out of Clinton's mouth is dissected and attacked no matter what the context.

[kenfrequed]

21. Not a single quote

Almost everything you said is something you either completely contorted or reworded.

Come back when you actually want to commit to citing direct quotations with your explanations.

[upaloopa]

34. Those were reported after the debate I read them

on line. The very first question was about the Paris attacks and Bernie talked about income inequality and oligarchs.

[RichVRichV]

38. That wasn't a first question.

They had an acknowledgement of what was going on in Paris then went to opening remarks for the debate.

His comments might have been poorly timed but they weren't a deflection. Go back and rewatch it.

[OilemFirchen]

18. H.A. H.A.!

GoodOne!

[Major Hogwash]

22. While Hillary acted like she was Dubya Bush invoking 9/11, Bernie clearly won this debate.

While Hillary was busy conjuring up what she might have looked like in a Marine Class A uniform, Bernie was talking about real solutions to real problems.

And that was when Hillary bleated "9/11 happened, and that's why Wall Street is giving me millions of dollars in donations this campaign."

Bernie won this debate, hands down.

[Major Hogwash]

23. Hillary acted like a Republican because she is a Republican!!!

And that's a fact!

[upaloopa]

31. If it is a fact we should be able to google it right?

[sadoldgirl]

24. Her response to the problems

she helped to create in Libya and Syria were totally
unacceptable.Almost like some weird sound bites.
And that was supposedly her strength?

But I am sure she will "evolve" on that as well.

[upaloopa]

28. H A Goodman

[merrily]

33. Silliest and most meaningless post of the thread so far. Kudos. Please see Reply 29.

[Tarc]

30. Facts are pesky things

Poll: Clinton clear winner of second debate

Sixty seven percent of Democratic primary voters said Clinton won the debate, Public Policy Polling (PPP) found in its survey, conducted for the pro-Clinton super-PAC Correct The Record. Twenty percent thought Sen. Bernie Sanders (I- Vt.) won the debate, PPP added, while 7 percent picked former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley as the winner.

[Omaha Steve]

41. And do you know who paid for the PPP?

[Tarc]

42. Attacking the source and ignoring the substance

Another FReeperism.

[Omaha Steve]

43. Yes you did

[Tarc]

44. That would be you, kiddo

[Omaha Steve]

45. .

Bought and paid for polls are so accurate.

I don't like your tone.

[mvd]

32. Yeah I was shaking my head at that Wall St./9-11 connection

It sounded like most important to her was Wall Street being saved.

[rhett o rick]

39. I question her thought process to tell us that she helped rebuild Wall Street after 9/11 like

that was a high priority. That is just more evidence that she favors Wall Street and she isn't afraid to admit it.

[Romulox]

40. I'd like to suggest that reposting Clinton's own words is, in fact, sexist.