Hillary Clinton’s changing position on same-sex marriage

[UglyGreed]

Our conclusion

Clinton opposed same-sex marriage as a candidate for the Senate, while in office as a senator, and while running for president in 2008. She expressed her support for civil unions starting in 2000 and for the rights’ of states to set their own laws in favor of same-sex marriage in 2006.

As polls showed that a majority of Americans supported same-sex marriage, Clinton’s views changed, too. She announced her support for same-sex marriage in March 2013.

It’s up to voters to decide how they feel about her changed stance, but on same-sex marriage we give Clinton a Full Flop.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jun/17/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-change-position-same-sex-marriage/

[TM99]

1. But I just don't trust Sanders!

[UglyGreed]

2. Thanks for the

reply. Takes guts according some here to associate with the likes of me. I don't mind if you decide to delete your comment, whatever helps the Sanders campaign. I also apologize to the BernieBros, BernieGals, BernieElderly and last but not least the BernieBabies for my stupid posts and threads.

[TM99]

3. Oh my, I guess I needed the

sarcasm emoticon and this link --

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251815058

[UglyGreed]

4. touche

[Agschmid]

11. The :sarcasm: tag is always helpful apparently.

[Hepburn]

5. Agree

[Betty Karlson]

6. The TPP flop was worse,

but Clinton's belated 'change of heart' casts doubts on her sincerity.

[rhett o rick]

7. And don't forget her half flip on fracking.

After she tried to sell it on behalf or you and me to foreign governments in spite of the protesting masses, now she said we should phase out (over undisclosed period, maybe 20 years) some fracking on some land. Emphasis on the "we should".

[Betty Karlson]

8. I had missed that one.

Thanks for bringing that halfhearted 'change of heart' to my attention.

Is there any corporate position Clinton has abandoned before it became untenable, before it became an electoral liability?

Is there any she won't revisit the moment she is sworn in?

[rhett o rick]

10. It's no wonder her supporters don't want to commit themselves to a stand on issues.

She may leave them hanging out on a limb. I think fracking is a good issue to show who she really is. She was having tea and crumpets with foreign leaders along with her friends at Chevron trying to sell them on increasing fracking while the common folks were in the rain protesting the contamination of their drinking water. She clearly chooses the corp position of oil profits before safe drinking water.

[UglyGreed]

9. She also was

in favor of NAFTA.......

[moobu2]

12. Glad our presumptive nominee supports full marriage equality today

Bernie Sanders never made any progress on the issue but who cares since he isn't going to be our nominee anyway.

[UglyGreed]

13. Kick

just the facts of the flip.........it may flop over back the other way if the wind blows.

[yardwork]

14. I don't think so. This lesbian is not worried about that.

Thanks for your concern on my behalf, though.

[UglyGreed]

15. Good for you

I hope in the end you will have made the right choice.

"I believe marriage is not just a bond but a sacred bond between a man and a woman. I have had occasion in my life to defend marriage, to stand up for marriage, to believe in the hard work and challenge of marriage. So I take umbrage at anyone who might suggest that those of us who worry about amending the Constitution are less committed to the sanctity of marriage, or to the fundamental bedrock principle that it exists between a man and a woman, going back into the midst of history as one of the founding, foundational institutions of history and humanity and civilization, and that its primary, principal role during those millennia has been the raising and socializing of children for the society into which they are to become adults."

[yardwork]

17. That speech was in opposition to DOMA.

[UglyGreed]

19. .

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/15/politics/hillary-clinton-same-sex-marriage/

[yardwork]

21. Clearly, you weren't paying attention at the time.

Clinton's support for civil unions was part of the Democratic opposition to a threatened constitutional amendment against equal marriage.

Political rhetoric is a tool that politicians use to get what they can when they can. Politics is about compromise and negotiation.

I have no concerns about any of the three Democratic candidates supporting gay rights or trans rights. Any of them will be fine on this.

[moobu2]

16. I liked how Hillary acknowledged Jim Obergefell's

endorsement of her today. Check it out at the link and read Jims endorsement of her too.

"Jim made history and changed America for the better by fighting for marriage equality all the way to the Supreme Court," Clinton said. "There are still too many places where LGBT Americans are targeted for harassment and violence, and there are too many young people uncertain and scared of what their future might hold. Right now in America, you can get married on Saturday and be fired from your job on Monday just because of who you love. I see the injustices that are happening in our country, and that is why I'm committed to working with Jim and others to end discrimination against the LGBT community once and for all."

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/lead_scotus_marriage_plaintiff_jim_obergefell_endorses_hillary_clinton

[UglyGreed]

18. Check out reply

15. Boy it is amazing how people just want to overlook Hillary's past......

[leftofcool]

22. Translation..............

Bernie Sanders is losing.

[azmom]

20. K&R

[Cheese Sandwich]

23. I didn't even know there was a full flop rating

she earned it though