Since Bernie has plans for a cabin

[UglyGreed]

on the White House grounds, is Hillary going to rent out the Lincoln Bedroom again???

Lincoln Bedroom Guests Gave $5.4 Million

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1997/02/26/clinton.lincoln/

[Cheese Sandwich]

1. What's the difference between a campaign donation and a bribe?

9/11

[MADem]

2. Again? When did "she" rent it out in the first place?

Your sexism is showing. Your subject line and your link do not match.

[UglyGreed]

4. Sexist ohhh

I guess Liz Essley Whyte is a sexist also


The Lincoln Bedroom Is Still Paying Dividends
Donors who spent the night in the famous bedroom are now writing checks for Hillary Clinton.



http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/10/lincoln_bedroom_guests_are_still_donating_to_hillary_clinton_many_of_bill.html

[MADem]

5. No--you are. Bill Clinton is not running for office, and your link goes back

almost 20 years.

You need to stop doing that kind of thing--you do yourself no favors, and you come off looking spurious.

[UglyGreed]

7. Tell me was

Bill a sexist??? Getting tired of this slander BS......

[UglyGreed]

8. You must of missed

the part STILL writing checks...........

[MADem]

10. I don't think I "must of" (lol) missed anything.

I see you coming from a half mile off.

Hillary Clinton didn't EVER rent out the Lincoln bedroom, and you perpetuated a falsehood when you said she'd do it "again."

You might try being less obvious. AND hyper-replying to a single post. That's what they call a "tell."

[UglyGreed]

15. she is reaping the benefits

[MADem]

19. You are trying WAY too hard. We see what you're doing--and you should be ashamed of

yourself.

Are you really a Sanders supporter, or do you just have a big spoon and a task at hand?

If the former, you really aren't helping him with this sexist trope. You make yourself look bad, and you make his supporters look sleazy by your association with them.

I'm sure there are plenty of Sanders backers who want nothing to do with your slimy insinuations.

When are you going to retract your charge that she rented out that room?

I won't hold my breath.

[UglyGreed]

21. Sexist

you throw that word around a lot don't you? You have no right to label me as such and like I said before I'm sick of your personal attacks. Answer my question can Bill Clinton be consider a sexist?

[UglyGreed]

25. crickets of course

[MADem]

41. No, not crickets--sexist. Keep it up--you're making your team look like shit.

[UglyGreed]

44. HMMM let's try again

You have no idea who I am, but I think you know who Bill is, so tell me since you are such a good judge of character in your opinion is Bill Clinton a sexist also?

[MADem]

46. No--let's NOT try again. You've made your sexist, GOP-theme-touting, Great Big

line of prevaricating bullshit thesis entirely clear.

By your words we know you, and I doubt Senator Sanders would approve of the cheesy shit you're trying to pull here.

[UglyGreed]

47. Deflection

thanks for proving my point.......

[MADem]

52. What point? That you have advanced sexist GOP themes with your sick thread, here?

Yes, I think I HAVE proved that point, quite decisively, too.

And I think most people reading this see you for just what you are.

[UglyGreed]

55. keep on going

it may just stick............not

[MADem]

57. It already has. nt

[MaggieD]

37. +10000

I can't even understand how this kind of nonsense is even permitted here. SMH.

[MADem]

45. I don't think this kind of thread does Bernie Sanders any favors--so you have to ask yourself,

is the purpose of this kind of shit to covertly make Sanders supporters look like asses, or something?

Is this a GOP plot, to perpetuate "flaky shit" and outright lies, and get the innocent 'enthusiasts' who are eager for some "Boost my candidate up/Beat the opposition down" material to go along with this garbage?

Between the touting of tired old (and sexist) GOP memes, and some of the flaky conspiracy theory shit I've seen (Waaah, CBS is HIDING part four of the debate--it's a fascist oligarchy!!!) on this board today, I feel like I've taken a wrong turn into some of those moronic discussions that follow YAHOO articles. Thick, stupid, clueless, and nonsensical crapola!

[MaggieD]

51. Yep

It's wacky.

[Scootaloo]

28. I was unaware that appropriate pronoun use was sexist

[MADem]

38. If you can't bother to follow the conversation, fine.

But don't chime in with nonsense. It diminishes you, as this 'new' poster is being diminished with his spurious charges.

HRC didn't rent anything out in the first place, so she can't rent it out "again."

Don't strain your back carrying all that GOP water, now.

[Scootaloo]

43. I follow it just fine

You're not accusing the poster of being wrong, you're accusing them of being sexist.

[MADem]

48. He's conflating a lie about a man named Bill with a woman named Hillary.

And he is being sexist when he does that.

The fact that you need it explained to you is troubling.

[Scootaloo]

58. No, he's just being factually wrong.

The claim has nothing to do with Clinton's gender.

[MADem]

60. Yes, it does. He's ascribing to Hillary behaviors that her husband was falsely accused of.

By Republicans, too.

He's trying to conflate them.

He's either calling her a gonad-breaker who rented out the room under her husband's nose when she had no standing to so do, or he's calling her a mere prop, an extension of her husband. Both sick little sketches are blatant lies and the entire supposition is straight out of the wingnut GOP smear machine. Yet he doubles down and repeats them.

There's just no backing this shit. Unless, of course, you're on the GOP team.

[UglyGreed]

50. I know I may cross some lines

but this sexist BS is just that, BS..............

[MADem]

54. If you know you may cross some lines, why do it? Are you trolling? Have you not read the TOS? nt

[MADem]

61. No, the TRUTH is that your OP is UNTRUE. Yet you keep doubling down with the GOP lies.

So, what is going on here? Why do you persist in perpetuating Republican falsehoods on a Democratic board?

[UglyGreed]

62. Mother Jones

Not only Clinton but many Presidents have done so.

WHO: Bill Clinton
WHEN: 1994-95
HOW MUCH: $50,000-$100,000
WHAT YOU GET: An overnight stay in the Lincoln Bedroom or dinner with Clinton at the White House
MONEY QUOTE: "The White House is like a subway: You have to put in coins to open the gates"—Johnny Chung, a Taiwanese-born businessman and major Democratic donor in the 1990s.


http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/03/obama-ofa-access-donations-clinton-lincoln-bedroom

[MADem]

65. What does that have to do with HILLARY? See? Your sexism betrays you. Bill is NOT Hill.

Stop conflating them. They are not a borg.

[Warren Stupidity]

72. They have only one issue that they can discuss here to their advantage, guns,

so their only other tactic is to attack bernie and his supporters as bad people, as racists, as sexists, as whatever the fuck else they can dream up to avoid the issues that their candidate is really not so good on.

[sufrommich]

3. George W. Bush thanks you for repeating his campaign

lies right here on DU.

[UglyGreed]

6. CNN

They kinda like Hillary these days...........

[sufrommich]

16. You realize Clinton didn't actually rent out rooms at the White House,right?

Even the article you're linking to doesn't make that claim. It does mention that republicans are though:


On Tuesday, the Clinton White House released the names of 800-plus people who stayed overnight in the Lincoln Bedroom, and the president defended the practice of inviting friends and supporters to stay overnight. The White House also released several hundred pages of documents, some with his handwritten notes from Clinton enthusiastically supporting the idea.

But Republicans accuse the president of using the White House to raise campaign funds and want an independent prosecutor named to investigate the fund-raising.

[MaggieD]

31. Well, but it makes for a good Clinton smear post

.... so I'm guessing that was the rationale. Doesn't need to be true or anything. LOL!

[LiberalArkie]

33. How about a dinner?

[MaggieD]

39. No contribution necessary

Why doesn't Bernie get out an mingle with actual people? He should.

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/signup/om-hvf-dinner-with-bill/?utm_medium=om2016&utm_source=gs&utm_campaign=lb-dwb&utm_content=98566063211&utm_term=c

[MADem]

49. Oh, darn the bad luck--you ruined their fun!

[randys1]

27. Rightwing talking points are posted on DU all day long about Hillary

This is a fact.

[madamesilverspurs]

9. Oh FFS

-- and we have a whole year of this crap to look forward to.

Sheeeeyut.

[UglyGreed]

12. check out

the picture of the homeless people lining up in the Bernie Sanders plans on building a cabin thread. Yeah a whole year of this crap indeed.............

[msrizzo]

11. Wait, did I miss something?

Bernie's going to tear down the white house and build a cabin? I don't go for that.

[oasis]

13. Bernie's cabin is reserved for his "positive message" supporters only.

All five of them.

[mmonk]

17. I don't know about the Lincoln bedroom but I have a cabin on a lake.

Guess that answers all questions.

[UglyGreed]

18. sorry I left out

White House grounds in the OP.

[mmonk]

20. I know.

Doesn't change anything. The cabin answers all questions. And it's not for rent.

[Sunlei]

22. Bernie needs more per plate dinners. He did one for $37,000.? a plate but was a 'D party fundraiser.

Would $500 a plate dinner for Bernie to hold be acceptable to you?

a thousand $500 donors,= $500,000 for Bernie minus- the venue would charge about $100 each person unless you volunteer to do everything.

[UglyGreed]

23. Bernie has

thousands and thousands of people donating 30 bucks a pop that's where his funding comes from.

[Sunlei]

24. including me* because I know there are many wealthy Ds who donate to Mrs. Clinton.

* I donated to Sanders because we need to hear his voice. He has said the same things for decades but it takes money to promote his words.

[UglyGreed]

26. Good glad to

hear that.

[Sunlei]

30. I don't think Sanders would support your OP either. It's divisive.

di·vi·sive.


[dəˈvīsiv]






ADJECTIVE



1.tending to cause disagreement or hostility between people:
"the highly divisive issue of abortion"

synonyms: alienating · estranging · isolating · schismatic


antonyms: unifying

[MADem]

56. Bernie has cut a deal with Debbie Wasserman Schultz to do DNC - coordinated fundraising from here on

out.

[MaggieD]

29. Yeah, Bill's not running

You're welcome for the info.

[UglyGreed]

32. Hillary has used his

Administration many many times on the campaign trail. If HRC has chosen to do this then it is only fair to take the good with the bad.

[MaggieD]

36. "Used his administration"

What the heck does that even mean?

And why even repeat this right wing fake scandal? He did not "rent" the Lincoln bedroom. Every single one of those folks were friends of his. It's a bullshit story to begin with, and it has nothing to do with Hillary Clinton either.

Do you think you will win Dem primary voters over with this kind of thing? If so, please explain how that is supposed to work?

[UglyGreed]

42. Yeah whatever

The Lincoln Bedroom Is Still Paying Dividends

Donors who spent the night in the famous bedroom are now writing checks for Hillary Clinton.
At least one of the faithful 2016 givers, who celebrated his 10th wedding anniversary in 1993 with a stay at the White House, is looking forward to a return stay in the chief executive’s mansion, courtesy of the Clintons. “Last time I stayed in the Queen’s bedroom, so I need to be upgraded to the Lincoln bedroom,” said former Florida state Rep. Dick Batchelor, who orchestrated the first Florida fundraiser for Bill Clinton in 1991. “I have no idea whether that would take place or not, but anybody who says they don’t want to visit the White House and spend the night is probably not telling the truth. If I had an opportunity to go back, I would absolutely go back,” he added. “I need to return the towels.”

The original 80 Fat Cats, including those who are now deceased, are only a portion of those who ultimately crashed at the Clinton White House. The Clinton administration released records in 1997 showing that 938 guests had stayed at the mansion during the president’s first term, dwarfing the 284 who stayed during the previous administration. And a Democratic National Committee memo showed that President Bill Clinton personally endorsed the idea of using sleepovers at the White House as a fundraising tactic—“Ready to start overnights right away,” he wrote.



http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/10/lincoln_bedroom_guests_are_still_donating_to_hillary_clinton_many_of_bill.html

[MaggieD]

53. Who the hell is DICK Batchelor

And why the hell should I care what he says?

[Skidmore]

34. Retreaded right wing debunked garbage

from the 1990s. Talk about living in the past and being sexixt at the same time.

[UglyGreed]

35. trash in trash out

The original 80 Fat Cats, including those who are now deceased, are only a portion of those who ultimately crashed at the Clinton White House. The Clinton administration released records in 1997 showing that 938 guests had stayed at the mansion during the president’s first term, dwarfing the 284 who stayed during the previous administration. And a Democratic National Committee memo showed that President Bill Clinton personally endorsed the idea of using sleepovers at the White House as a fundraising tactic—“Ready to start overnights right away,” he wrote.

[MaggieD]

40. Yep.

[NCTraveler]

63. I'm sure they are staffed well enough to control scheduling.

Don't worry, they won't double book.

[enid602]

64. just had to

Maybe Jane will list the White House as an asset to support another loan from one of those greedy, corrupt Wall Street Banks that her husband is always railing against.

[Agnosticsherbet]

66. Republican campaign ad here?

I am not amused.

[Major Nikon]

67. Results...

On Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:41 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Since Bernie has plans for a cabin
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251817842

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Now this is ridiculous. Are you kidding me? This troll is going to dig up yet another bullshit right wing attack on Bill Clinton (yea, Bill, not Hillary, unless you are a sexist jerk who doesn't believe a woman can have her own identity) and present it here as some kind of fact? This is nothing more than devisive flamebait. Absolutely disgusting. This helps no one but the right wing.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:47 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I am total agreement with the alerter. Hide it.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I'm not into censorship anything. DU needs to demonstrate the thought and effort of straightening individual poster's thoughts and habits. But. Even more I'm not into helping the opposing party contaminate our candidate's campaign with issues about a spouse's behavior, even if DU'ers come up with fair answers; so, I'm reluctantly going to let this be a "Hide."
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Is there anything the HRC fans won't alert on?

[MineralMan]

68. Thanks for referring to my OP.

You forgot the link, though. No problem: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251817556

[Township75]

70. Your jury results

FYI


On Mon Nov 16, 2015, 09:24 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Thanks for referring to my OP.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=819295

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Instigating. Poster knows the OP can not reply since he was locked out of the thread. This thread has been up for a long time yet he chooses to reply now???

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Nov 16, 2015, 09:27 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Why was this alerted on?
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: What the fuck is the alerter whining about? I just don't get it. Perhaps a member of the church of the perpetually offended???
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[JTFrog]

71. Interesting alert.

Here is a message for the alerter (as if we couldn't guess who that was):

Anyone who brings in this much right wing bullshit to DU in order to attack Democrats should be locked out of more than just this thread.

Just sayin....

[MineralMan]

73. Thanks for posting those results.

I rarely get to see results for alerts on my posts.

[SidDithers]

69. Better believe it!...nt

Sid