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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 02:12 PM Nov 2015

Rovian Tactics by Campaign Hillary

Remember the FABRICATED story that one of Bernie's staffers threw a fit? (see one of *many* examples here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251811350 )

And remember how that was FABRICATED STORY started by the Hillary's Campaign? (see where the DNC called out this was started by Clinton Campaign here http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251815355)

Well here now is Hillary's campaign throwing a LITERAL TANTRUM at the person who tweeted the debate question that got her to shamelessly tie 911 to her Wall Street Donations (see: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251816597 )

To me that's a Rovian tactic: accuse your opponent of exactly the failings you have.

I knew I was spot on when I discovered the ties that show Mark Penn was indeed working for her campaign again: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251815355

This is just the kind of campaign implosion he would orchestrate.

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peacebird

(14,195 posts)
1. Kinda like the new PPP poll post debate that was finded by Hillarys PAC 'Correct the Record'?
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 02:17 PM
Nov 2015

By the way, PPP admits that they prescreened the voters they would use for the poll the day before. Wonder what questions they used then?

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
3. Until you mentioned this, I was not aware of this atrocity.. Holy shite
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:25 PM
Nov 2015

What is her campaign DOING?!?

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
2. And she's attacking the Iowan who wrote the Tweet!
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 02:31 PM
Nov 2015

Have you seen that meme?

Her minions are attacking the Iowan who tweeted the comment, that was aired during the debate, about Hillary using 9/11 as a political device.

The talking point is that he is a "Twitter troll."

The media selected his tweet and he's just as shocked as anyone that his Tweet was selected.

He's a law professor at the University of Iowa.

Maybe she has a new PR firm representing her...one that has no experience with crisis communications.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
6. "one that has no experience with crisis communications"
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:44 PM
Nov 2015

That's what I thought it '08... she she was running a surprisingly bad campaign. I thought, though, that she'd jettisoned Penn. Either she hasn't, or she has an affinity for that sort of "campaigning", which doesn't say anything positive about her.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
8. Well, she's been running a very plastic campaign, so far...
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:58 PM
Nov 2015

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In Iowa, she spent the summer and early fall meeting behind closed door with small groups of supporters. She rarely allowed the media in.

Then, when she lost 30 points in Iowa, from May-August--she began doing some public speaking. These were at mainly smaller venues with a couple of hundred supporters.

She's managed to run an extremely scripted, fake campaign.

We need a real campaign. We need candidates who speak freely, answer questions and are engaging with voters. She's been able to avoid most of that.

She's terrible at being genuine and authentic. We saw during the debate what happens when she is called out for her Wall-Street relationships and the millions they have given her campaign. Her positions are indefensible and she knows it. So she invoked 9/11. Crazy.

Iowans will force her to get real. That's for sure. We demand authenticity. And if she can't handle that, or doesn't know how to deal honestly with real Americans, then she's in big trouble.

You can't hide behind soundbites and scripted, canned schtick forever.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
5. First they ignore, then they ridicule, then they fight,...
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:40 PM
Nov 2015

I cannot help but feel that internal polls show Bernard Sanders is about to win somewhere, no matter how low Camp Clinton goes with their GOP tactics.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
10. Good point... her recent behavior shows a loss of confidence
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:21 PM
Nov 2015

And that could be a reflection of internal polling.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
12. Definitely there is a Rovian stench to the many 'tactics'' being used against Bernie. And since we
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 05:23 PM
Nov 2015

know that Brock was an early student of Rove, using those tactics to go after Clinton w/Paula Jones, no one should be surprised that when a campaign HIRES a student of Rove, that is what we will get.

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