Clinton Campaign Blames Iowa Tweeter For Hillary's 9/11 Remark Response

[bigtree]

Andy Grewal @AndyGrewal (Law Professor, University of Iowa)
Is Clinton camp coming after me? "Clinton Campaign Pins 9/11 Remark Response On Twitter User" "http://www.buzzfeed.com/rubycramer/clinton-campaign-pins-911-remark-on-twitter-

from Buzzfeed:

...had Clinton, the day after the terrorist attacks in Paris, referenced the New York City tragedy to rebut a critique from Bernie Sanders about her Wall Street contributions?

No, her campaign said — it was Andy Grewal.

Grewal is the Iowa resident and debate viewer who upon, watching the exchange that led to Clinton’s remark, fired off a disapproving tweet that was featured later in the broadcast. “Have never seen a candidate invoke 9/11 to justify millions of Wall Street donations. Until now,” Grewal’s tweet read.

Andy Grewal ?@AndyGrewal Nov 14 Iowa City, IA
Have never seen a candidate invoke 9/11 to justify millions of Wall Street donations. Until now. @HillaryClinton #DemDebate

When one of the debate’s moderators, CBS News’s Nancy Cordes, read the tweet aloud, Clinton did not push back on the characterization. “I’m sorry that whoever tweeted that had that impression, because I worked closely with New Yorkers after 9/11 for my entire first term to rebuild,” Clinton said.

Clinton’s communications director, Jennifer Palmieri, said that Grewal, the Twitter user, had mischaracterized the remark.

Andy Grewal ?@AndyGrewal
@HillaryClinton comm. director blamed me for "mischaracterization"; will she also blame @nytimes ed board? …nyt on clinton's 9/11 moment

“This is not in response to donations,” Palmieri said. “That is what the person on Twitter did.”

The point, she told reporters after the debate, was that Clinton’s work as a senator in New York wouldn’t make her less likely to pursue Wall Street legislation: “She was senator of New York during 9/11, and I think she was proud to help that industry recover,” said Palmieri. “But when she disagreed with them in 2007, as she did, about the direction the industry was going in, she never afraid to stand up and say she disagreed with them.”

“It was the person on Twitter who connected it to donations. That is not what she did,” she said.

read more: http://www.buzzfeed.com/rubycramer/clinton-campaign-pins-911-remark-on-twitter-user#.mwb8PD0xg


Andy Grewal ?@AndyGrewal Iowa City, IA
Offer to @HillaryClinton: I will retract my #DemDebate tweet in exchange for 10% of your Wall Street donations.

[berni_mccoy]

1. Bwahahaha. Clinton implosion in 3..2..1...

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

20. Hillary is becoming a Saturday Night Live parody of herself. What a joke!

All the more reason we need Bernie.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[Betty Karlson]

69. Not likely. But one can hope. n/t

[persuadable]

71. I support Hillary, but I am afraid she can not win the GE

Comments like this will kill her. I believe Rubio will be the Republican Candidate and a woman or Carson will be his VP.

[Tommy2Tone]

98. You are a Hillary supporter?

Sure like I am Sherlock Holmes.

[persuadable]

111. What makes you think I am not?

I also believe in many things that Bernie believes in as well, but we live in a dangerous world which Hillary is better suited to deal with. France proves that and Hillary recognized ISIS for what it is early on.

[Bubzer]

116. You're going to end up dealing with a lot of derision due to your low post numbers.

That and having an active account that's roughly 16 days old. People here are used to new accounts being used to troll the DU community.

Welcome to DU

[Tommy2Tone]

118. You support Hillary but you don't think she can win the GE?

Not a very good supporter. IMO

[Duckfan]

127. And if Hillary is so smart...

She would be condemning France for bombing the crap out of ISIS which is what France is doing at this moment. That's what ISIS wants is having someone attack them so as to recruit more of their ilk. It's going to make the problem worse. But she hasn't said squat. Which would make you wonder if she is willing to drag our troops back into a conflict that will cost more American lives.

Bernie had it right. The other countries are affected more by this and need to act instead of us doing the dirty work.

[Tommy2Tone]

129. Bernie is wrong and so are you. n/t

[pinebox]

172. Why? Because he tells it how it is?

It's called Democratic Underground not "Kiss My Candidates Ass Underground"

[zentrum]

106. Yes, that's my fear too.

Masses of Democrats don't trust her and she's a lightening rod to bring out a strong Republican vote.

We may be screwed by the DWS wing of the party.

[merrily]

2. Too frickin' funny.

[mmonk]

3. Of course.

[riversedge]

4. Not a nice guy-Greedy Andy wants money in exchange for a retraction. And no one asked

for a retraction.


Andy Grewal ?@AndyGrewal Iowa City, IA
Offer to @HillaryClinton: I will retract my #DemDebate tweet in exchange for 10% of your Wall Street donations.

[HerbChestnut]

6. The snark is strong with this one

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

22. "Snark" is puttin it mildly.

[bahrbearian]

9. Swish.. just right over your head. nice try though.

[dorkzilla]

17. I can't believe someone took his "retraction" tweet as anything but sarcastically meant. Nt

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

35. Exactly...Hillary will pay dearly in the polls for this major gaffe. Count on it!

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Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[BootinUp]

51. .

[riversedge]

58. My response exactly...

[Bohemianwriter]

65. Because using 9-11 to defend Wall Street

donations is such a laughing matter?

What is it about Hillary that makes you support her?

Her support of TPP?

Her support of the Iraq war?

The fact that she is more like a moderate republican of the 90's than a real democrat?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

85. You're spot on Bo! No wonder the only response you got is...<crickets>

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[Bohemianwriter]

174. Funny how the sound of crickets....

comes to mind every time a Hillary supporter gets these questions.

[bahrbearian]

68. Its wasn't Her fault , she got tricked by some guy on twitter.

Yeah thats the ticket

[riversedge]

74. CBS should have quickly vetted him.

[bahrbearian]

78. Like how "he isn't American"

[riversedge]

86. ONLY You have said that.

[bahrbearian]

101. Vetted then for speaking the truth, vetted for what?

[riversedge]

104. start with post #53 and my

response and bigtree's discussion.

[bahrbearian]

109. So he is American, he speaks the truth , but You don't like what he says.

[zentrum]

113. He spoke for me.

Her linking of 9/11 with her campaign support from Wall Street sounded exactly the way he characterized it.

[Armstead]

10. He spoke for many

I was appalled and disgusted by her remark.

I would have had a whole lot more respect for her if she had simply answered the question directly. "Yes I work with the financial sector because they are an important part of our economy, but their support will not influence me,..."

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

39. Hillary speak the truth?! That will be the day...

Why we need Bernie, a real truth teller, to lead us in the political revolution this country so desperately needs.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[daleanime]

52. Would have been her best course....

but she exercised her experience judgment and choose a different path.

And this is the wisdom we're suppose to defer to?

[Yurovsky]

147. She doesn't want to say anything that might disrupt her cash flow...

she's gotten used to all that dirty Wall Street/Corporate money. If she appears willing to bite the hand that feeds her, those millions may dry up.

And we all know poor little rich girl Hillary can't possibly survive on Bill's pension & whatever the government pays a former Senator/cabinet member. And only peasants live off of Social Security, not Hillary, that's simply beneath her.

[BootinUp]

11. Nice Try Andy. nt

[tex-wyo-dem]

31. Do you seriously not get that Andy....

Is being completely snarky? Or are you just being sarcastic yourself? Hard to tell on DU sometimes.

[BootinUp]

50. It was a nice try to make something out of nothing.

[karynnj]

90. CBS would not have read his tweet if it were a random, isolated comment

From their words, many people raised the same thing - and his was the one selected to be read.

[riversedge]

95. CBS likes to cause friction--just like any other media. Simple as that.

[karynnj]

114. Completely agree -- and don't think these comments hurt -- or help -- Clinton

I do think many people reacted -- as in, I can't believe she went there. You can see it in the DU and DK threads on the debates. However, I doubt anyone already supporting HRC, heard it, said that is unseemly (in bad taste, or negative of your choice, and moved to either undecided or to one of the two other candidates.

These comments come up in all debates - consider these:
1) "Hillary is nice enough" Obama, sardonically - in answer to the question of whether she was.
2) approximate quote "We need to get the votes of some of the people flying confederate flags on their cars - outrage amplified by John Edwards arguing it defamed the South.
3) The usually diplomatic Kerry - "defending" Edwards when Edwards was questioned for not serving by saying he was in diapers at the time of the war. There was outrage on DU - and Kerry did apologize when Edwards complained.

ALL of these caused an uproar - which quickly faded without really changing the race. I suspect the same happens here. What this - in debates and in any comments - in a media and public culture to INTENTIONALLY miss the context and meaning of an entire answer to find a "gaffe" or a negative sound bite.

This happens with Obama too - if you watched his Turkey speech and the questions after it - you heard questions almost totally derived from the media taking a few words and spinning them to have meanings never intended. The biggest, most repeated one is the idea that Obama NEVER EVER anticipated that ISIS could have a terror attack in the West. (Had they even looked at their own reporting, they would see they asked and the WH and SD spoke to the American (or other western countries') citizens who joined ISIS being very dangerous - and there was discussion that some might stay to cause terror here. Any sane person knows that even if there is not a square foot of land under ISIS control, it is that ISIS diaspora that will still be a problem. (O'Malley actually might have tried to get to that when he spoke of increased law enforcement and intelligence as the main answer. The answer seemed a less polished version of many Kerry answers on terrorism. HRC went up with her credentials, which only she was in the position to do. )

[BootinUp]

102. Sorry, I just don't buy that people will read it

how all the pundits and assorted Hillary haters want them to read it.

[karynnj]

125. Agree - I was just posting something to that affect

No one already supporting Clinton will spend much thought on the meaning of what she said. Not to mention, it was kind of the same thing she said in the first debate -- that she represented Wall Street.

This time was actually LESS a sound bite for opponents. I am not a Clinton fan and I took it as a somewhat awkward version of a very basic question on donations - sort of which is the chicken and which is the egg. She was arguing that Wall Street people who saw her working to help NYS and the industry get back on its feet -- liked and respected her -- and donated because they were impressed. (Taken away from the controversial Wall Street -- ask yourself did Senator X, a life long environmentalist who wrote legislation that protected the environment - do that to reward environmentalists and their organizations - or did the environmental organizations support him because they had a common interest.

[CoffeeCat]

18. LOL! He's got a great sense of humor...

...and he makes a good point.

Hillary Clinton has taken millions of dollars from powerful Wall Street interests.

Maybe she *should* share it with middle-class folks!

I love this Iowa Twitter guy! Keep em coming, sir.

[Fawke Em]

122. Wonder how many people started following him after that comment? eom

[sabrina 1]

29. I doubt he'd take it even it was offered. But he's definitely a smart guy

and probably would make a good member of Congress, though I doubt Wall St would be rushing to fund him.

[floriduck]

54. Andy's okay. He just

wanted to get an extra jab in on a candidate who lost her composure temporarily and whose staff got their panties in a bit of a twist.

[CoffeeCat]

135. He didn't ask for this media attention...

I think it's important to remind people that this law professor simply tweeted his opinion. An opinion that is shared by large numbers of voters. Even Martin O'Malley, the NYTimes editorial board and many other people have chimed in about Hillary invoking 9/11 to rationalize her Wall Street ties.

He sent out a tweet. It was picked up by the media and broadcast during the debate.

He didn't ask for this. He seemed shocked that it ended up being shown during the debate.

[Betty Karlson]

70. I think the sarcasm may be lost on you?

[restorefreedom]

146. me thinks he was trying to be funny

i doubt he plans to retract anything.

[840high]

151. I like Andy - funny.

[Andy Grewal]

153. Thanks

Thanks! I like you too!

[JDPriestly]

159. Andy Grewal was making fun of Hillary's greed.

[Scuba]

168. C'mon, you're smarter than that I hope.

[angrychair]

5. New low

Guess this is an example of that "win at any cost" I've heard supporters of this candidate mention. Attacking private citizens for their tweets!
With people like this candidate, it's always the poor and the powerless at fault and not themselves.

This ranks as the most significant and baseless attack this election, by any candidate.

[bigtree]

16. attacking an Iowan for making a valid point

Lis Smith ?@Lis_Smith (Deputy Campaign Manager, Communicator for @MartinOMalley)
Attacking an Iowan for making a valid point...emblematic of the gravity of @HillaryClinton's bad night.

[angrychair]

23. Great reply

I guess whining about debate questions and conditions isn't just a teapublican trait

[LovingA2andMI]

42. Lis Smith and the O' Malley Campaign is Doing The JOB Here...

As the Attack Resource against Campaign Hillary. And they are doing quite a good job....

&quot CNN)Martin O'Malley said it was "pretty shameful" for Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton's to invoke the 9/11 attacks to deflect criticism at a debate about her relationship with Wall Street.

In an interview with CNN's "New Day," the former Maryland governor and Democratic presidential candidate was asked about Clinton's comments and the round of applause she received afterward.

"I thought that moment, frankly, was pretty shameful. I don't believe that the people watching were applauding the notion that Secretary Clinton was pumping up the smoke screen and wrapping herself in the tragedy of 9/11," O'Malley told CNN's Alisyn Camerota.

"I don't think they saw that as something appropriate to do — to mask her coziness and her closeness to Wall Street and all of the architects of the crash of 2008."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/16/politics/martin-omalley-clinton-wall-street-9-11/

I'm liking this guy MORE and MORE for the V.P. Spot on Bernie's Ticket!! Thank You Gov. O' Malley!

[Kalidurga]

152. I have been saying this for months

But, if he takes the lead I won't be sad over that either.

[riversedge]

53. Andy is also a Lawyer and an expert for the Federalist Society

Just saying.

[bigtree]

60. good call

...it's something which fits right in with what's likely to be in the republican campaign arsenal.

I don't think that automatically disqualifies the criticism, but it certainly does make sense to recognize where this question came from.

I wonder if the Clinton campaign knew of or considered the apparent bias of the source in their decision to push back on the questioner?

[riversedge]

67. I have no idea whatsoever.....

Certainly cbs should have had the sense to check him out (only took me a few minutes at most). I say potential bias. Although probably not even close--I am reminded of Plummer Joe or in WI--last year Gov Walker was ginning up vocational schools and invited a welder to the State of WI address-turned out he was a convicted sex offender. I am not saying any bias entered in here but the optics are not good. IMHO

[bigtree]

72. thing about this fellow and the Federalists

...is his work for them looks like legal minutiae - tax minutiae, at that.

I would agree that merely associating himself with the group puts him, at least, in the Libertarian camp, maybe worse. But, if he's not some activist ideologue, I can't see the point in deflecting blame onto him, especially since there are identical criticisms coming from several disparate political persuasions.

[riversedge]

84. Well, he is not voting for Sanders or Clinton....

Like I said--it is the Optics of association. But at this point no one is connecting the dots anyway.


Not sure at this point what exact comments that the communications is 'deflecting blame' for. I have to reread the OP or go to the transcript--perhaps in a bit I will come back to this.





Andy Grewal ?@AndyGrewal Nov 15 Iowa City, IA

@sdtogros @HillaryClinton i'm not voting for @berniesanders but he's most honest candidate in this race, on either side of aisle. #DemDebate
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Jose ?@lpc0011 Nov 15

@AndyGrewal @sdtogros @HillaryClinton @BernieSanders why not? who are uou voting for?
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Andy Grewal ?@AndyGrewal Nov 15 Iowa City, IA

@lpc0011 @sdtogros @HillaryClinton I admire @BernieSanders for his honesty and integrity but cannot get behind him on extreme tax plan.
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[bigtree]

99. thanks for the tweets - hadn't seen them

...very pleasant discussing this with you.

[zentrum]

120. Oh, for pete's sake

…...who he is doesn't invalidate the question. They were talking about her Wall Street campaign donors and she invoked 9/11. My jaw dropped. My fellow viewers in the room were appalled. We're all life-long Democrats. Would pass any vetting you demand.

I guess, when you don't like the question, valid and spot-on or not, the proper response is to attack the questioner.

[beerandjesus]

140. .

[CoffeeCat]

25. Stupid, stupid move. Iowans won't appreciate this.

Attacking a fellow Iowans for making a point that the *majority* of Americans agree with--is not smart.

Iowans won't like this. There's that little thing called the Iowa Caucuses coming up in 10 weeks.

Furthermore, these stupid remarks just added a few days and some rocket fuel to the fact that she used 9/11 to justify her cozy relationship with Wall Street.

[Skidmore]

61. I"m an Iowan. And I'm

caucusing for Hillary in a few weeks. I'm fine with pushback on this guy who is associated with The Federalist. Have no problems with it.

[bigtree]

66. do you think the campaign is making that association?

...it isn't as if there isn't a plethora of criticism from a myriad of sources today all making the same point.

What does 'pushback' on this one source of criticism achieve, in your view? I think it's going to prove counterproductive. I don't know what benefit they'd expect in provoking anyone on this point.

[Skidmore]

80. I don't know about the campaign but I am making that association and

I wouldn't be surprised if a campaign would look into the source of such a comment. I looked up this guy myself on the intertubes, and was surprised to find him on faculty at UI. I also found out that he is a tax lawyer and is one of the experts for The Federalist Society. I found that interesting because that organization is a well known conservative organization which was very much active during the Bush administration. Yes, I do research and this smells.

[bigtree]

94. the remark was a generic one

...I don't consider it an ideological or politically partisan point. Of course, I wouldn't expect for Sen. Clinton's supporters to remark unfavorably on her comments, but 'Andy's' statement isn't exclusively a progressive or a conservative one.

Andy Grewal ?@AndyGrewal
Have never seen a candidate invoke 9/11 to justify millions of Wall Street donations. Until now.

I think it'll be hard to downplay this by deconstructing the tweeter. The questions surrounding her comments remain. It may well backfire in Iowa where there are large numbers of voters registered as independents.

[riversedge]

93. Thank you for your work in Iowa...

I will be canvassing in WI--when the time comes
In solidarity

[72DejaVu]

43. That was an attack??

Seriously, do you people believe your own spin?

[LovingA2andMI]

49. Maybe this one is better....

&quot CNN)Martin O'Malley said it was "pretty shameful" for Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton's to invoke the 9/11 attacks to deflect criticism at a debate about her relationship with Wall Street.

In an interview with CNN's "New Day," the former Maryland governor and Democratic presidential candidate was asked about Clinton's comments and the round of applause she received afterward.

"I thought that moment, frankly, was pretty shameful. I don't believe that the people watching were applauding the notion that Secretary Clinton was pumping up the smoke screen and wrapping herself in the tragedy of 9/11," O'Malley told CNN's Alisyn Camerota.

"I don't think they saw that as something appropriate to do — to mask her coziness and her closeness to Wall Street and all of the architects of the crash of 2008."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/16/politics/martin-omalley-clinton-wall-street-9-11/

Good Job Martin O' Malley. Keep it coming as this is a good follow up from YOUR debate performance on Saturday. He would be a great V.P. for Bernie!!

[72DejaVu]

55. I've read that carefully

Don't see the part where Martin whines that mean ol' Hilary is picking on him.

[LovingA2andMI]

57. Maybe because....

He didn't. He called her out invoking 9/11 at the Saturday debate, for the record...

In an interview with CNN's "New Day," the former Maryland governor and Democratic presidential candidate was asked about Clinton's comments and the round of applause she received afterward.

"I thought that moment, frankly, was pretty shameful. I don't believe that the people watching were applauding the notion that Secretary Clinton was pumping up the smoke screen and wrapping herself in the tragedy of 9/11," O'Malley told CNN's Alisyn Camerota.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/16/politics/martin-omalley-clinton-wall-street-9-11/

And it was not appropriate. So, it is to be assume you are one of the people that thought evoking 9/11 to defend anything, was appropriate?

[72DejaVu]

81. Not relevant

My comment was in regard to the propensity of Sanders supporters to view even the most minor disagreements or rebukes as horrifying attacks.

Thank god Hilary will be the nominee, you guys wouldn't last a week against the GOP.

[LovingA2andMI]

82. You can see into the future....

But the vision must be blind as Bernie is winning this. Either way, enjoy the ride as Bernie Supporters will. DejaVu - Campaign Season 2007/2008 x Two.

[72DejaVu]

87. Bernie can still be a winner

He just needs to bet on the Patriots.

[LovingA2andMI]

88. No, Bernie does not have to cheat to win...

The People are in HIS side. Nice try but....got ya!

[72DejaVu]

92. Accuse the Pats of cheating..yeah, how's that working out for the rest of the league?

P.S. Don't go giving the impression that Bernie thinks the Pats are cheaters, or he won't get 5% in New Hampshire!

[LovingA2andMI]

96. No, yet again...

You tried and failed to say in just....If Bernie Wins It Would be Similar to Deflate Gate. And We called you OUT on it. You Mad? Obviously.

Again, Bernie does not have to cheat in ANYWAY to win. The PEOPLE are on HIS SIDE.

[72DejaVu]

103. He had his run

Hey, even the Lions win a few, right?

[LovingA2andMI]

108. Again...

What does your references to FOOTBALL has to do with the original post? Nothing, thus you must be....



And this useless back and forth, ends there.

[72DejaVu]

110. OK, bye! See you at the victory party

Oh, wait, I guess I won't be there.

[SwampG8r]

121. If hrh is the nominee none of us will be at victory parties

She will lose

[72DejaVu]

124. they said that about Bill, too.

[SwampG8r]

137. She ain't Bill

[Admiral Loinpresser]

161. And it ain't the '90s. n/t

[CharlotteVale]

132. ITA, and shameful is the perfect description.

[Betty Karlson]

73. No: the new low is justifying casino banking with 9/11.

Attacking private citizens over tweets was one of the lows set by G.W. Bush, and Clinton surpassed it with her 9/11 remarks.

[Hepburn]

7. Wow....

....that reaction makes my head spin!

Whaaaaaaaaa???? She said it and it's someone else's fault????

[d_legendary1]

19. Well she did blame Bush for her Iraq vote

After all, voting for war and expecting the guy NOT to go to war is, well...not her fault...

[frylock]

26. She blamed Biden for her vote on the Bankruptcy Bill.

The buck stops somewhere over there >>>>>

[Tommy2Tone]

8. And like that his 15 minutes of fame are gone

Twitter trolls as watchdogs. Geeze

[CoffeeCat]

32. Large numbers of Twitter users lambasted Hillary's comments...

...and a couple of them had family members who died in the Twin Towers.

Many find Hillary's remarks grotesque.

Justifying the truckloads of money that Wall Street has dumped at her feet--by invoking 9/11--is not only bizarre and nonsensical--it is wrong.

[Tommy2Tone]

76. The guy is a Twitter Troll

Twitter Trolls also posts large numbers of tweets about people popping zits, camel toes, failed texts. So to use Tweets as some form of proof that Hillary doesn't give a shit or is insensitive to those who died in in 9/11 is about as stupid as it gets.

[angrychair]

83. Troll or not

Is he still an individual citizen? Unless you or HRC's campaign, can prove this was a coordinated attack by another campaign or SuperPAC, than an attack of a private citizen, in this manner, for a tweet, is beyond the pale.

[Tommy2Tone]

97. You're kidding right?

Coordinated attack from another campaign or SuperPAC? What part of "Twitter Troll" don't you understand? A guy tweets some bullshit and the media and Bernie's fans run with it. I will leave you both to defend trolls.

[angrychair]

131. That was not the only tweet

And not the only person to comment on what she said. Its only a "Twitter troll" because you don't like what they said. Try to dehumanize all you want, they are still just a person. Is your candidate so brittle that one person, among millions, is worth that much attention? Even if that person was trying to create an issue where one didn't exist, who cares?? What does your candidate care what one Twitter user says?? It is surreal to said the least.

[CoffeeCat]

91. He's a law professor at the University of Iowa...

Nice hit job on the messenger.

What you can't defend the indefensible (Hillary's problematic ties to Wall Street and their billions) this is what you do.

His tweet is reflective of what many, many people think of Hillary Clinton and her stupid 9/11 references that she used to justify the millions in campaign donations that Wall Street has invested in her.

[Tommy2Tone]

123. So he's a law professor who trolls twitter

"I represented New York and I represented New York on 9/11 when we were attacked," she said. "We were attacked in downtown Manhattan where Wall Street is. I did spend a whole lot of time and effort helping them rebuild. That was good for New York, it was good for the economy, and it was a way to rebuke the terrorists for an attack on our country."

I find nothing wrong with the above statement. The law professor troll does because, if you read through his tweets, he finds nearly everything wrong with Hillary.

Oh and it seems neither does Bernie Sanders:

Later in the debate Bernie Sanders agreed: “I applaud Secretary Clinton. She did. She's the senator from New York. She worked – and many of us supported you – in trying to rebuild that devastation.”

[CoffeeCat]

134. This law professor was stating his opinion on Twitter...

You can try to position this distinguished law professor any way you want.

I get it. Attack the messenger. How novel.

I love it that Hillary and her campaign are attacking a fellow Iowan; and a law professor nonetheless. This should give this story a few more day's worth of play--especially in Iowa. No doubt, this increases the likelihood that the local Iowa media will want to interview this law professor.

Then, it will be an Iowan vs. Hillary, just several weeks before the Iowa caucuses.

Talk about a gift. Hillary's refusal to shut up and move on from her colossal debate error (invoking 9/11 to justify her Wall Street ties) highlights her ties to powerful banks and also Bernie Sander's campaign which is funded by average citizens.

We've just broken through in the critical state of Iowa--and we didn't have to lift a finger.

Hillary and her ill-advised PR "strategists" are doing the work for us.

[Tommy2Tone]

138. Broken through?

You will get a bite of reality very soon.

[TM99]

139. Whhhaaaaa....want some cheese with that whine?

I don't like what you are saying here.

According to your impeccable logic, that must mean you are a troll.

[Tommy2Tone]

141. He is a troll.

Go read his tweets and just so you know I am responding not trolling.

[TM99]

142. Maybe he is just....

you know....not into Hillary Clinton?

[Tommy2Tone]

143. That's obvious

Read his tweets. He seems to like Clinton followers but is afraid of Trump's.

[daybranch]

117. Who cares if he is a troll

we heard what she said. We watched the debate and saw her mouth form the words and the baloney spew forth. I will say however I do not believe that in hindsight she would not flip flop to another better sounding position. But then this may be as good as it gets each time she is hammered with the question of as we say in the hills of Harlan County -which side are you on? (from a song written during the Harlan County War of the 1930s, a war wherein students of christian seminaries in New York came to Harlan County and fed starving children were beaten and run out of town as socialists and communists trying to steal our beloved mountains even as the rich mining companies were raping the mountains. Sounds familiar to what they are trying with Bernie.

[Tommy2Tone]

128. I care a hell of a lot more about what she says than you!

Bye.

[sabrina 1]

38. A citizen makes a comment about a politician, I believe he is a Professor, and suddenly

according to some people, he's a troll! Maybe citizens should just keep their political views to themselves??

[Fawke Em]

126. Twitter troll?

Andy Grewal is a law professor at the University of Iowa Law School, got his law degree at the University of Michigan and attended Georgetown.

He may be a right-winger given some of his associations, but he's not a troll. He's not hiding who he is.

[Segami]

12. LOL!- The machine goes

into Spin-cycle.....

Don't forget to add the softener.........

[Cassiopeia]

44. I sense a bit of envy from this one

[jeff47]

13. So this "incredibly qualified", "fantastic" candidate can be utterly derailed by a single tweet?

Seriously? Is Penn running Clinton's campaign again?

[Hepburn]

14. Scary...

...really scary. WWHD in a real emergency?

[tex-wyo-dem]

48. No kidding...

Kind of underscores how frightened the Clinton campaign is of any significant criticism. Perhaps the memories and pain of 2008 are still fresh.

[bobbobbins01]

64. Teller should probably run it.

At least he knows how to keep his mouth shut.

[Broward]

130. I don't think she'd able to handle a 3 am tweet let alone a phone call.

Someone should run an ad.

[riversedge]

148. The only derailing going on is Sanders fan gettting their panties in a twist over nothing

[dorkzilla]

15. Are you fucking kidding? They actually blamed the tweeter?

The minute it was out of her mouth there were several posts here, mine included, that expressed incredulity over such a callous response. Facebook followed likewise, perhaps because I'm in NY and we all suffered on 9/11 and for years afterward and the cowardice of the Parisian attacks were weighing on us heavily.

None of her supporters would countenance this BULLSHIT from a Republican. So before you rush to her defense, just imagine if Trump tried to pull this shit.

Really gross behaviour.

[d_legendary1]

21. I saw that during the debate as well

I was wondering why she was referencing a tweet after her 9/11-women contribution rant for justifying her Wall Street money.

[jalan48]

24. Wall Street is an industry?

What does it produce?

[frylock]

27. Misery.

[Ed Suspicious]

30. Great minds? lol.

I think you owe me a Coke or something like that.

[frylock]

33. Ha!

[Ed Suspicious]

28. Jack shit and misery.

[LovingA2andMI]

36. Debt....

MTS...

[Hepburn]

41. Loss of the middle class. n/t

[magical thyme]

75. poverty, people living in cardboard boxes and empty homes

for starters.

[LovingA2andMI]

34. WOW!!

Talk about desperate much.....

[beerandjesus]

37. Hillary the FIGHTER stands up to a random nobody on Twitter!

Where's the Swarm, anyway? Coordinating today's talking points on their other forum?

[daybranch]

100. and knocks herself out.

personally I do not care is the tweeter was GW Bush or Cheney, the point made is well taken. I do not believe impugning the messenger is the way to answer. Hillary blew it again. But feel sorry , another poor woman is a target of another man. And she is proud that women make up most of her donors. Yep she never panders does she. But then she even has to misstate the obvious that very rich men men and CEOs of large corporations have invested the most money in her campaign, whether their number is less than the number of her female contributors or not.

[blackspade]

40. Blaming a misstatement on college professor....

What was Clinton's staff thinking.....

And "help them recover" after 9/11? What the fuck is that shit?

[riversedge]

56. Who is saying "misstatement" other than YOU??

[daybranch]

112. Misstatement was just being overly nice to Hillary.

I would call it it spin or BS or maybe worse, but in any case the public ain't all buying it. As Lincoln said you can fool some people part of the time and you can fool all of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all the time. Hillary had to wing it in a question where there is no truthful answer that would not hurt her chances. The issue of Wall Street/Banking/Big Corporation/and Billionaire money money is the death of a thousand cuts for Hillary's campaign and anyone who opposes Bernie. Only a republican lite like Hillary could lose to republicans in the General Election. The public would much rather have an unabashed republican where you know where you stand than someone they believe untrustworthy.
Hillary is being seen like Jeb, a loser who embodies much of the worst of the establishment sell out.
Shame on you Bernie and O Malley for pointing this out.

[riversedge]

145. "The public would much rather have an unabashed republican" Do not count me

into your 'public". Making broad statements such as you just did is beyond the pale.

[blackspade]

144. I was attempting to be charitable to her campaign.

And give her the benefit of the doubt.

But if Clinton's supporters want to own it, well...have at it.
Just don't complain when it gets brought up again.

[SandersDem]

45. Doomed by 140 characters?

There are a lot of them like those at Goldman Sachs, Lehman Bros (formerly), J P Morgan Chase, Morgan Stanley, Credit Suisse Group, etc...oh did you think I meant one post from a Twitter user? Hmmm, wouldn't that be epic.

[NRaleighLiberal]

46. waiting for the 138 or so to swarm this

[Segami]

62. Run, children run!

[ejbr]

47. So the Twitter

user was the only one of the two who understood the true context of the question.

[AlbertCat]

59. Imagine!

How would Hillary appear if the Dems had more debates.... at a time when people want to watch them?

[Jack Rabbit]

63. If Mrs. Clinton won the debate, as claimed by some, why so much damage control?

??

[magical thyme]

77. a noun, a verb, 911...and Wall Street.

[Major Hogwash]

79. Hillary was pwned by a law professor!!!!

How ironic!!

[Old Codger]

89. Have met

A lot of people over the years that cannot,will not, accept responsibility for their actions, always someone Else's fault....


Poor baby can't be at fault...

[SoapBox]

105. Really? Blaming her mouth moving on some Tweet?

That is SO lame!

[Bread and Circus]

107. This is the same smoke and mirrors we are exposed to on DU every day.

Is a little honesty and taking responsibility too much to ask?

[Bubzer]

115. What utter crap.

“This is not in response to donations” - so we're just going to ignore context? The response directly followed a challenge against her corporate donations... not individual donors, nor anything about her leadership during 9/11.

This fails the sniff test.

[Fawke Em]

119. It's never her fault, but it's always about her.

She's in this for herself, not for the American people.

[UglyGreed]

133. Like a child

he made me do it, what a mess.

[MisterP]

136. what on Earth is even their argument? that she meant "Wall Street" as the physical location?

oh yeah, that's gonna look good for the voters, blaming Twitter and sending out the whistle-shrilling cyber-flunkies

[cui bono]

149. Someone better not fly on small planes any time soon...

[Andy Grewal]

150. It's me, Andy Grewal

Hi folks! Interesting discussion about my tweet. It's great to see so many people of different views taking the future of this country seriously.

If it wasn't obvious, my comment about the 10% payment was a joke. I actually thought it was one of my more clever comments. It implicitly faulted Hillary for taking large Wall Street donations while asking for a piece of the pie. That's why it was so funny (or so I thought).

As for my being part of a coordinated effort -- definitely not. Just a guy sitting in his pajamas in front of his TV on a Saturday night, who somehow managed to make an influence on a national debate. It's pretty cool that that's the way things can work these days.

I promise to put my snark to good use during the December 15 debate (twitter at @AndyGrewal). I anticipate that I will vote Republican in 2016 (or make a protest vote), but the Republican debates are always filled with low-hanging fruit for biting commentary. I look forward to making it.

Thanks again for giving my tweet some thought, whether your thoughts were positive or negative.

Oh, and Go Hawkeyes -- 10-0.

[Cheese Sandwich]

155. wow dude. Hope you're enjoying your 12 seconds of fame

You should tweet out a link to this discussion so we can see if it's really you.

[Andy Grewal]

156. is there a tweet button?

just registered.

[Cheese Sandwich]

157. Yeah there is one up on the original post that started the thread

I was just kind of kidding.

But hey, what you said in your famous tweet, millions of people were thinking the same thing.

I certainly was thinking it.

[Andy Grewal]

158. thanks, done n/t

[Cheese Sandwich]

160. Oh yeah.... How about that. You're real. Nice

[Admiral Loinpresser]

162. Have you considered supporting Bernie?

I am simply curious about your interest in the Democratic debate and you thoughts on a candidate with more cross over appeal than the normal Dem candidate..

Regardless of your answer, thx for the original tweet, which expressed the reaction of many.

[Admiral Loinpresser]

167. Thanks for a thoughtful response.

As to tax policy, I can't hope to debate you based on the disparity in our respective knowledge bases. However, the unprecedented Bush policy of cutting tax revenue while engaging in war does need serious remediation, imo. Also, I would like your thoughts on a 90% rate during the Eisenhower administration and the resounding success in building the middle class.

School choice is a complex issue, I grant you that. But without robust neighborhood schools, I think we slip more quickly into permanent oligarchy. Further to that, I commend to you this analysis of American status as a liberal democracy:

http://www.vox.com/polyarchy/2015/11/4/9665842/republican-inequality-future-loop

No need to reply to any of this. I don't intend to oblige you. But I am interested in informed opinions of those with which I disagree on a variety of issues.

[bigtree]

169. good show Andy

...kudos to you for posting here, despite your political stance.

[Juicy_Bellows]

154. How, on the sweet Pete teet, do people defend HRC here?

It's an all around fuck up of generous proportion.

[marym625]

163. this is really almost unbelievable

Wow. Just, wow.

He tweeted your post. Must be a DUer.

Hi bigtree!

[marym625]

170. Hi Andy,

I was tweeting with you around the time you wrote this.

You're a DUer now. Democratic Underground member. It's pretty cool.

Glad to meet you.

Mary

[marym625]

171. I just read through the thread

I must say, you have taken some really off the wall criticism extremely well. Especially from certain people who seem to know every little thought behind your tweet. Amazing that some DUers are clairvoyant.

While I can understand your thoughts on the tax percentage that Bernie is aiming for, I'm curious as to why you find it bad or unrealistic. Of course we have to have the structure you mentioned above, to some extent. However, we were a much more prosperous nation, with a much stronger middle class, under Eisenhower and during FDR through Reagan. When the tax rate started to decrease, along with many other horrors under Reagan, including union busting, we saw the beginning of the end of a strong middle class.

I don't believe for a minute we'll ever be that high again, even with President Sanders. However, we cannot maintain at the current rate.

While I haven't yet read his book, Saving Capitalism, I did see Robert Reich Thursday and heard him discuss much of the book. He disagrees with you.

Just curious.

An FYI: While I doubt they'll do anything because of anything you say on this thread, the cardinal rule on DU is you can't say you'll vote anyway other than Democratic.

[joshcryer]

166. I love that someone on twitter can impact an entire campaign like that.

Tickles me senseless.

[marym625]

173. it's pretty cool!