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RandySF

(58,841 posts)
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 01:08 AM Nov 2015

“Vagina voter”: Witnessing the sexism hurled at Hillary in ’08 and the assumptions made about her.

illary’s presence and words were a powerful message to girls and women, and that is why she didn’t quit. And as a mother of a daughter, that is one of the reasons I didn’t quit her. To be sure, Hillary was fighting to win, but she also knew that we needed the memory and the images to move forward for those who came after her. Like her Beijing speech, she was ahead of the curve, but this was a rougher road. The accusations that were hurled at Hillary were hurled at all of us. We were all called “bitter clingers,” “vagina voters,” “working class,” “old,” and “bitches” right along with her and suffered the same dismissal as she did. And some of the people who threw out those slurs were feminists.

Hillary’s 2008 campaign is now a snapshot that is a part of our collective cultural memory from past events that we all share. These memories help us form our identities as individuals and as citizens. Boys and men have the totality of presidential cultural memory reflected to them in the United States: Franklin D. Roosevelt holding up his hat, Dwight Eisenhower with arms held aloft, and John F. Kennedy with Marilyn Monroe. The history of male presidents is the gendered bedrock of power upon which we form our national identity, and women, without similar memories, sense their lack of power.

I grieved when Hillary lost the nomination. The night after she won in South Dakota, one of the last primary states in a campaign already lost, I dreamt about her.

In the dream, Hillary was in the White House. I was with many women in a room waiting to meet with her. When it was my turn, Hillary stood in front of me. I held out my arms as if to receive something. She placed several Middle Eastern shawls and fabrics into my empty arms. I knew women had made them. I took them.

Several years later after the election, I finished my film about the women’s liberation movement and started to speak about how important it is to remember that movement and include it in our cultural memory. If we had had a cultural memory about female leaders in 2008, Hillary may not have been seen as an interloper in the male Oval Office.


http://www.salon.com/2015/11/14/vagina_voter_witnessing_the_sexism_hurled_at_hillary_in_08_and_the_assumptions_made_about_her_supporters_changed_my_life/

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“Vagina voter”: Witnessing the sexism hurled at Hillary in ’08 and the assumptions made about her. (Original Post) RandySF Nov 2015 OP
REC bravenak Nov 2015 #1
just as bad as the racism Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #2
What kind of racism are you talking about? RandySF Nov 2015 #4
How did you manage... MrWendel Nov 2015 #6
The whole picture has to be looked into as what they are,we know Sanders numbers is down with POC, Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #12
Anybody who survived sniper fire in Bosnia shouldn't be afraid of sexism tularetom Nov 2015 #3
or tells Wall Street to cut it out? daybranch Nov 2015 #7
KnR. Amazing how the bitter opponents just can't stay away from any thread about Hillary. nt Hekate Nov 2015 #5
We just do not want you to linger forever in the wilderness daybranch Nov 2015 #8
She's the one going around saying Le Taz Hot Nov 2015 #9
I know she says it Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #10
Yup. To this woman, saying "vote for me because I am a woman" is demeaning. djean111 Nov 2015 #11
Maybe we should make it against campaign rules to accept money from citizens of one's state, that Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #13
LOL MaggieD Nov 2015 #14
Or maybe to say Hillary Clinton can not run, wrong. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #15

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
12. The whole picture has to be looked into as what they are,we know Sanders numbers is down with POC,
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 11:29 AM
Nov 2015

and reactions to this has not been very nice, shouts of arrest them and taz them is not nice. Just when I see this has calmed down the next wave begins. As long as there is a desire to present these issues over and over is not helpful. Give Sanders an opportunity to allow the heat to be removed.

daybranch

(1,309 posts)
8. We just do not want you to linger forever in the wilderness
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 05:04 AM
Nov 2015

As another poster called it you are woefully misinformed and we just like good friends want to help you. With a goal to electing Bernie on the issues, we can do no less.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
9. She's the one going around saying
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 05:09 AM
Nov 2015

"Vote for me because I'm a woman." Live by the sword, die by the sword. That swill made every woman I know (with the exception of blind partisans) want to wretch.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
10. I know she says it
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:40 AM
Nov 2015

but we are not allowed to point it out. Disgusting. Oh yea, 9/11, that will help her in a contribution question. Just cut it out!

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
11. Yup. To this woman, saying "vote for me because I am a woman" is demeaning.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:39 AM
Nov 2015

And, really, saying to women that those silly issues do not count. The Bosnia lie? That, to me, is a fatal weakness. Not what I want in a president. Bottom line.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
13. Maybe we should make it against campaign rules to accept money from citizens of one's state, that
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 11:32 AM
Nov 2015

would prevent Clinton from taking money from Wall Street.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
14. LOL
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 11:42 AM
Nov 2015

Nobody from NY is allowed to donate to presidential campaign. Better yet, no senator from NY is allowed to run for president.

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