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MrWendel

(1,881 posts)
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 11:10 PM Nov 2015

Politico: Insiders: Bad night for Bernie

One day after the Paris attacks, Democrats viewed him as unprepared to talk in depth about foreign policy.
By KATIE GLUECK 11/15/15 06:50 AM EST

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/insiders-bad-night-for-bernie-215901

Bernie Sanders had the weakest night of the three Democrats onstage at Saturday night’s debate.

That’s according to a survey of the POLITICO Caucus, a bipartisan group of influential strategists, operatives and activists in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada, who weighed in immediately following the second Democratic primary debate.

Nearly half of Democrats surveyed said the Vermont senator lost the debate, and only 10 percent of Democrats said he won. Those insiders who said Sanders had the worst night argued that he appeared out of his depth on foreign policy a day after terrorist attacks rocked France. He spent just a few seconds addressing the matter in his opening statement before pivoting to his familiar pitch about the economy, in stark contrast to rival Hillary Clinton, a former secretary of state who devoted her entire statement to the Paris attacks.

“He made a mistake right off the bat in switching from Paris to the economy, and had an uneven performance,” a New Hampshire Democrat said.

"He was clearly not comfortable discussing detail on foreign policy matters," agreed another New Hampshire Democrat.

Others said the self-described democratic socialist made no effort to appeal to the broader Democratic Party, and reinforced perceptions Saturday night that he is unelectable....

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Politico: Insiders: Bad night for Bernie (Original Post) MrWendel Nov 2015 OP
More imaginary "anonymous insiders" from pundit wannabe Katie Glueck brentspeak Nov 2015 #1
At the end of the article, several purported members of this "panel" are named, winter is coming Nov 2015 #4
Bad night enid602 Nov 2015 #8
Mittens enid602 Nov 2015 #10
Yeah, Right! It Is Pathetic - Unless You Are A Veteran....... left on green only Nov 2015 #12
Bernie enid602 Nov 2015 #13
Is That What You Heard From Your High School Debate Team Captain...... left on green only Nov 2015 #14
Bernie enid602 Nov 2015 #15
big surprise... DianeK Nov 2015 #2
"Insiders" huh. HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #3
I know. LOL. That headline was a snake swallowing its own tail. Baitball Blogger Nov 2015 #5
*Laughs* Ya, I thought our problem with Former SOS Clinton Hydra Nov 2015 #6
You mean insiders like those that lied about the conference call before the debate? jeff47 Nov 2015 #7
The "insiders".. DCBob Nov 2015 #9
Politico.... Triana Nov 2015 #11
Honestly MrWendel Nov 2015 #16

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
1. More imaginary "anonymous insiders" from pundit wannabe Katie Glueck
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 11:16 PM
Nov 2015

This a-bit-too-ambitious Beltway hack also wrote about "anonymous insiders" when she penned an HRC-groveling piece concerning the first debate.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
4. At the end of the article, several purported members of this "panel" are named,
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 11:24 PM
Nov 2015

but there's no indication of how many (or which) members were consulted. Basically, for all we know, the people quoted could be die-hard Hillary supporters. I question the perceptive skills of any "insider" who fails to grasp that Hillary's 9/11 comment was the biggest blunder of the evening, and one that will be difficult to live down.

enid602

(8,620 posts)
8. Bad night
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 11:40 PM
Nov 2015

Bernie's answer to the last question (asking him to share an example of how he reacted to a crisis (a la Paris attacks)) was a summary of his struggle to enact veterans' legislation. Pathetic.

enid602

(8,620 posts)
10. Mittens
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 11:43 PM
Nov 2015

And by the way, Romney did write an op ed in today's WaPo, giving many the idea that he might run again. Apparently it's not too late.

left on green only

(1,484 posts)
12. Yeah, Right! It Is Pathetic - Unless You Are A Veteran.......
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 12:08 AM
Nov 2015

......or you possess the humility that enables you to empathize with veterans. Move along. Nothing to see here folks!

On the other hand, the Hills' pathetic attempt to co-opt Obama's final responsibility in making the decision to go after Ben Lob-em, reeks of the disparity of similar comments that were made by the shrub, right after it happened.

left on green only

(1,484 posts)
14. Is That What You Heard From Your High School Debate Team Captain......
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 12:22 AM
Nov 2015

.....or are you just happy to see me? Again I would infer that Bernie's response to the question was far more substantive than you will ever be capable of comprehending.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
6. *Laughs* Ya, I thought our problem with Former SOS Clinton
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 11:36 PM
Nov 2015

Was that she was part of that insiders club.

"Insiders thought she did great!"

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
7. You mean insiders like those that lied about the conference call before the debate?
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 11:37 PM
Nov 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251815355

I'm shocked, shocked I tell you that they think Sanders didn't do well.

Clinton could spend the next debate doing nothing but shouting "9/11!" and "Women!", and these same insiders would say she was brilliant.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
9. The "insiders"..
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 11:42 PM
Nov 2015

a bipartisan group of influential strategists, operatives and activists in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada.

MrWendel

(1,881 posts)
16. Honestly
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:36 AM
Nov 2015

I wanted to see how many BO supporters would say that politico was crap, or that basically any poll having Clinton winning any debate was payed off by wall street, small sample size, etc.....

You guys never let me down.

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