2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton's Big Debate Gaffe: Defending Her Wall Street Donors to 9/11 Terror Attacks
While much of the world's attention was still focused on the terrorist attacks in Paris, Hillary Clinton made her worst stumble in Saturday nights Democratic debate in Iowa by defending her cozy relationship with Wall Street contributors as a consequence of being New Yorks senator after the 9/11 attacks in 2001.
The exchange that led to that eyebrow-raising explanation started with CBS moderator John Dickerson saying, So youve received millions of dollars in contributions and speaking fees from from Wall Street companies. How do you convince voters that you are going to level the playing field when you're indebted to some of its biggest players?
and here is Bernie's Money line ..
of course Hillary's reply represented her true intentions - to help Wall St and Fuck the rest
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/hillary-clintons-big-debate-gaffe-defending-her-wall-street-donors-911-terror-attacks
Hillary ain't going to change shit ... its just 4 more years of "Trickle Down Horse Shit" that is chocking the working class in this country to death
Hepburn
(21,054 posts)A lot of the Paris attack, but when political news is highlighted, Hillary is getting a lo of negativity for the 9/11 pro-Wall Street remarks. Commentators and the public both.
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FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)You could see the anger just seething in her during that exchange
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peacebird
(14,195 posts)Jarqui
(10,130 posts)To me, she's been that way since the 90s
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Being utterly unprepared. No Wall Street plan, no foreign policy plan, and a tax rate somewhere between 50-90%.
daybranch
(1,309 posts)Elizabeth Warren and Bernie have the same plan for Wall Streetand the banks, hold hearings to build momentum and then regulate them with re installing Glass-Steagull and new laws as necessary. Bernies foreign plan is to avoid continual war and work with allies. A specific plan for taxes is pretty stupid until
a democracy is restored and the people speak telling him what they want. All these things Bernie favors are things he will work for but he in no way believes he is to make the decision. Unlike George Bush, Bernie believes in a revolution which will let us be the deciders. Hillarys plans pretty much are just buzz words and she does not have the power to implement them unless her rich friends agree. She is the candidate of Wall Street, of Big Banks, of Giant Corporations, and of monopoly. Bernie is the candidate for democracy and control of government by the people. The empress has no clothes.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)Hillary Clinton: Let states & cities determine local gun laws
Q: Do you support the DC handgun ban?
A: I want to give local communities the authority over determining how to keep their citizens safe. This case youre referring to is before the Supreme Court.
Q: But what do you support?
A: I support sensible regulation that is consistent with the constitutional right to own and bear arms.
Q: Is the DC ban consistent with that right?
A: I think a total ban, with no exceptions under any circumstances, might be found by the court not to be. But DC or anybody else [should be able to\ come up with sensible regulations to protect their people.
Q: But do you still favor licensing and registration of handguns?
A: What I favor is what works in NY. We have one set of rules in NYC and a totally different set of rules in the rest of the state. What might work in NYC is certainly not going to work in Montana. So, for the federal government to be having any kind of blanket rules that theyre going to try to impose, I think doesnt make sense.
Source: 2008 Philadelphia primary debate, on eve of PA primary Apr 16, 2008
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Response then the gun is sold, too many straw purchases allowing guns on city streets, not a place to hunt game, dont need large magazines, goes on and on. Poll numbers says we want to place more controls, congressional members are too stuck in their ways and afraid of NRA to be sensible.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)the rest of the state
daybranch
(1,309 posts)I do not see hunters and gun owners in Vermont engaging in a lot of gun violence whereas in New York City or Baltimore they definitely have a problem. Wall Street has harmed us all no matter where we live. The Bible says you can only serve one master and I find that to be true. I worry Hillary's allegiance may be with Wall Street and continue to enable their misdeeds.
If she really wants to show the independence from their control she claims, a good start would be returning their money, but then she really is not for big money in politics it seems, unless the money goes to her.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Opponent, he still serves the NRA, we know where his allegiance lies, we don't have to wonder. I have not heard Sanders telling the NRA to back off. Clinton has told Wall Street to stop. I can see from this plus wanting to regulate Wall Street is Clinton is not going to go the Wall Street way.
azmom
(5,208 posts)Said it during the debate, if that's possible.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)I don't really care what the pundits say. I like watching the actual debates. Usually the spin from them makes me laugh because it's rarely how I view it.
R B Garr
(16,975 posts)meandering, smeary Wall Street talking points without a frame of reference and she explained how, where, and when she gained a lot of support/donors. She was right to call him on his broad brush smear.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)R B Garr
(16,975 posts)employees in his state, making him quite the corporatist himself.