After Strong Iowa Debate GOP Pollster Warns That Hillary Clinton Will Not Be Easy to Beat

[DemocratSinceBirth]

After Strong Iowa Debate GOP Pollster Warns That Hillary Clinton Will Not Be Easy to Beat



Frank Luntz, the guy who crafts talking points for Republicans and does polls, has a warning for Republican candidates after Saturday night’s Democratic debate: Hillary Clinton will not be easy to beat.

Luntz warned, “If GOP thinks Hillary is easily beatable, they’re wrong It’s not just words, but her tone & style are the best I’ve seen so far.”

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/11/15/republican-pollster-warn-gop-hillary-clinton-easy-beat.html

[BlueCaliDem]

1. I agree. She was perfectly presidential and handled that contentious debate very

well. She was very composed and gave specifics n what little time she was allotted - just as one would expect from a presidential candidate at a debate.

This underscores that the PPP poll showing that she won the debate (hands down, may I add) is correct and not, as some would argue, biased in any way.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. Some of the denizens of this board demur from their/ours/your assessment.

But DU is actually the greatest contraindicator in the world.

[BlueCaliDem]

13. "Contraindicator"...I've noticed, much to my chagrin.

Love your expanded vocabulary of the English language, by the way. DSB!

[Iliyah]

3. K & R

[Freddie]

4. Agreed

And some people here don't like this, but don't underestimate the millions of women who want to see a woman in the White House.

[Nonhlanhla]

5. I refuse to agree with Frank Luntz even when he's accidentally right

I'm not going to agree with anything he said. If I believe something which happens to be similar to what he says, it is based on my own opinion, and merely accidental, LOL! Yes, she will not be easy to beat. Especially not by the lunatics that the GOP is throwing up. (And yes, I use "throwing up" in its full sense.)

[BlueCaliDem]

12. Well, the idiom, "Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer" comes to mind here.

Frank Luntz is espousing the fear the GOP are contending with: Hillary Clinton is a formidable opponent and shouldn't be underestimated.

That's good advice.

[BootinUp]

6. She is in the zone. No doubt about it. nt

[floriduck]

35. Twilight Zone?????nm

[Gothmog]

7. The republicans are worried about Clinton

[bahrbearian]

8. Luntz,, Republican or Democrate ? LOL LOL

He makes his money playing both sides.

[dsc]

9. no he doesn't

He has never, as in not a single solitary time, worked for any Democrat at any time.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. Who are his clients on the left?

He makes his money playing both sides.

Who are his clients on the left, "LOL LOL" ?


Thank you in advance.

[shenmue]

40. He's a Republican.

[mcar]

11. K&R

[Robbins]

14. strong debate in iowa my ass

i guess clinton supporters like republicans live in their own reality.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. Res ipsa loquitur

Bernie Sanders had the weakest night of the three Democrats onstage at Saturday night’s debate.
That’s according to a survey of the POLITICO Caucus, a bipartisan group of influential strategists, operatives and activists in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada, who weighed in immediately following the second Democratic primary debate.

Nearly half of Democrats surveyed said the Vermont senator lost the debate, and only 10 percent of Democrats said he won. Those insiders who said Sanders had the worst night argued that he appeared out of his depth on foreign policy a day after terrorist attacks rocked France. He spent just a few seconds addressing the matter in his opening statement before pivoting to his familiar pitch about the economy, in stark contrast to rival Hillary Clinton, a former secretary of state who devoted her entire statement to the Paris attacks.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/insiders-bad-night-for-bernie-215901#ixzz3rZMzdqHD

Democratic Voters Overwhelmingly Think Clinton Won Debate; Particularly Strong on National Security Issues



A Public Policy Polling survey of Democratic primary voters nationally who watched tonight’s debate finds that it reinforced Hillary Clinton’s front runner status. Viewers overwhelmingly think she won the debate, and particularly trust her over the rest of the Democratic field when it comes to issues of national security.

Key findings from the survey include:

-67% of voters think Clinton won the debate, to 20% for Bernie Sanders and 7% for Martin O’Malley. On a related note 63% of viewers said the debate gave them a more positive opinion of Clinton, compared to 41% who said it gave them a more positive opinion of Sanders, and 37% who said it gave them a more positive opinion of O’Malley.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/

Iowa Focus Group: Among 33 undecided Iowans, HRC clearly wins debate by 23 to 10, and moves 11 undecided to her camp versus 3 for Sanders.

https://twitter.com/ChrisKofinis/status/665752437391659014?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

After Strong Iowa Debate GOP Pollster Warns That Hillary Clinton Will Not Be Easy to Beat



Frank Luntz, the guy who crafts talking points for Republicans and does polls, has a warning for Republican candidates after Saturday night’s Democratic debate: Hillary Clinton will not be easy to beat.

Luntz warned, “If GOP thinks Hillary is easily beatable, they’re wrong It’s not just words, but her tone & style are the best I’ve seen so far.”

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/11/15/republican-pollster-warn-gop-hillary-clinton-easy-beat.html

Immediately after Saturday night's Democratic debate, CBS News interviewed a nationally representative sample of debate watchers assembled by GfK's Knowledge Panel who identified themselves as Democrats or independents. By a 23 point margin, these debate watchers say Hillary Clinton won the debate. Fifty-one percent say Clinton won, compared to 28 percent who favor Bernie Sanders. Just 7 percent pick Martin O'Malley as the winner. Fourteen percent called it a tie.

Among Democrats, Clinton is seen as winning by more than two to one, while independents are split between Clinton and Sanders.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-who-won-the-second-democratic-debate-november-2015-cbs-news/

#iwon

[JonLeibowitz]

17. The PPP poll is garbage and should not be spread. And these insiders must be watching a different

debate than I did. Hillary did not do well, not by a long shot.

I still have to dig into this CBS poll, to see if it is at all trustworthy.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. I cited six or so different sources.

Please excuse me if I defer to them over some random internet poster.

Thank you in advance.

[JonLeibowitz]

19. Please excuse me if I refuse to allow corporate-money backed polling to go undisputed on a msg board

[floriduck]

36. I'd expect nothing less from corporate media outlets.

They'll spin data until they get the results they choose to report. Thanks for playing.

[SoapBox]

16. If...

She happens to be the candidate...she will lose us the WH.

The majority of voters will vote in anyone else but her.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. I hear that all the time, here of all places, yet nobody will take my wager.

If HRC wins the general I will donate the $500.00 I won from the person who takes my wager to charity. I am not interested in filthy lucre or pecuniary gain. If someone takes my wager and I lose I will give $500.00 to him or her to do with as he or she pleases.

[Codeine]

26. And America will never elect a black guy named Hussein.

Wait.

[Ed Suspicious]

31. Really? She's your "against all odds" candidate?

[Lil Missy]

38. Apparently not. She's the choice of the majority of Democratic voters. (in the real world)

She will only lose on DU. (lala land)

[Vattel]

20. It's so sad that a dishonest hawk who pushed Bush's lies is winning.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. That's how we roll in America...

I get the impression that some folks here would like to do away with niceties like voting.

[Vattel]

24. Your impression is obviously mistaken.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. I hope so./nt

[Demeter]

22. This could be more of the "nudging" from the GOP to get the Democrat they can defeat nominated

Yes, I suppose the GOP might pick their candidates based on style, not substance...

I would hope that we could have candidates with both, like Bernie.

Truth is, the GOP cannot defeat him, and they have the numbers to prove it. No matter which candidate the the GOP put up against him, Bernie wins hands down.

[George II]

27. They are running scared - she is a stateswoman, and there's not a statesman/woman....

...in the bunch over on the republican side.

[floriduck]

39. Do we really want a candidate with dandruff?

Her dusting the flakes off is not very lady like.

[DFW]

28. I have not seen Luntz in a while

But I was present at a gathering about ten years ago or so where Hillary and Luntz present. She was still a Senator at the time. We were allowed to submit questions in writing (mine was read first!), and some of the big names, even right-wingers like Luntz and even Richard Viguerie, were allowed to pose their questions directly. Luntz, not one to shy away from making an ass of himself, came up and got down on one knee in front of Hillary to state his question (I forgot what it was). He thought he was being funny, though most of us just thought he was being an ass. One thing was clear from his demeanor, though: he was not mocking her by his childish theatrical action. Oh, he made like it was all a big joke and all. But he was truly in awe of someone that might not have as much money as he has (the Republicans have paid him a FORTUNE over the years), but has something he'll never have, namely a public persona respected beyond the cultural borders of Fox Noise.

One other thing to note--Luntz NEVER NEVER EVER says ANYTHING in public without calculating that its effects will be the desired ones with his audience. Look for another message in there when you peel back the corn husk outside his words. He's telling his money masters that he thinks they need to finance more "I-Hate-Hillary" projects, with a possible undertone of "get yer asses in gear weeding out the chaff of the Republican primaries because we have a real job to do, not just listen to Trump and Carson, neither of which will ever be our nominee." Now he could be wrong about Hillary ultimately being our nominee, but he obviously feels this way now, and is tailoring his message to his masters accordingly. He'll sing another song as easily as changing keys on a guitar with a capo if it looks like our nominee will be someone else. He doesn't care. He cares about those who pay him being happy. If they're happy, he's happy.

[cantbeserious]

29. Six Questions

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251812060

[JaneyVee]

30. K AND R!

[Android3.14]

32. She is the only chance the GOP has

Go Bernie!

[DCBob]

33. I wouldnt trust Luntz any further than I could throw him, but in this case he's telling the truth.

I suppose because he is worried that some in the GOP are not recognizing the threat Hillary poses.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

34. ANYONE could beat that clown car they're running.

[LiberalLovinLug]

37. The terrorists gave her the "win"

Because despite that horrific attack, the odds of dying by a terrorist is still way way lower than dying because of poverty, and all the things that it leads to..drug abuse, chronicly bad eating habits/bad health, domestic and social unrest.

And Bernie is way ahead of Hillary on those more important issues. Those are the real "security" issues. But you can rely on the MSM, after the Paris attacks, that they probably wrote those "Hillary is tough etc" before the debate even started simply based on knowing she is the most hawkish of the three. Americans have been conditioned over decades, to have a Pavlovian response to any attack like this..the sky is falling, the sky is falling" and will run to anyone who says that only THEY will protect them from the massive unChristian hordes knocking at their door....all .001 % of them.

There is no material defense against terrorism like this. It will continue to happen no matter how "tough" a Presidential candidate sounds.

And ISIS should be handled by the 100x bigger and better organized armed forces in the Muslim countries that surround it like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iran etc...

[smiley]

41. pure comedy gold!

Thanks! I needed that laugh today.