So..Bernie obviously won..

[DianeK]

among the thinking class

[DURHAM D]

1. BS just told us to turn off the TV.

That is funny.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

4. Good idea - what would Fox news do?

[demwing]

22. no text - oops...

[DURHAM D]

23. No clue what you are talking about. nt

[demwing]

28. Yeah, misread your post

changing mine, sorry

[Javaman]

32. He's right.people need to be more engaged rather than being force fed what to think.

No tv, goodness me, what will we do?????

[MohRokTah]

2. Oh brother!

[Cassiopeia]

37. Hillary won!

It's clear as day.

[jalan48]

40. Does Hillary have a dandruff problem?

[RandySF]

3. Really?

He proved tonight that he's not ready for the job.

[DianeK]

6. your desperation is pathetic

[RandySF]

9. No, because I know how this is going to end.

And so do Bernie's supporters who've been throwing feces for the past few months.

[corkhead]

18. And let me guess, you just started throwing feces in post #3

[Live and Learn]

58. No you don't. It is not going to end.

Bernie is building a momentum that is not about to stop.

[BainsBane]

33. Yeah, having one's candidate up 30 points in the polls

makes a person desperate.

[Plucketeer]

49. It's sad actually

But she's OWED this by the DNC and their pointed goal of having a woman in the White House. That's it. She's going to unite the citizenry (as in Citizens United) and pay them back for their gobs of monetary support.

[MohRokTah]

7. I would be terrified of having him as president in an emergency after tonight. eom

[bravenak]

12. I know what you mean.

[dorkzilla]

29. And I would be terrified of the Janus that is Hillary

Hawkish and WallStreet-ish.

Seriously. Nothing is more terrifying than having BushLite as the leader of the free-world.

[Admiral Loinpresser]

41. +1 n/t

[Live and Learn]

59. +1000 nt

[BainsBane]

15. Crisis moment

I faced obstacles in the one major piece of legislation I got passed in over thirty years in congress.
That's not a crisis. That's part of the legislative process.

[murielm99]

36. I think that is the only time

one of the candidates did not answer the question at all. Bernie should have known they would ask something like this, after Paris. He was unprepared.

Did you see other times? For any of them?

[hopemountain]

51. i don't believe vets are scoffing at

bernie's skill and dedication on their behalf he was able to bring to fruition with agreement from the do nothing gop. bernie has the skill for compromise - something every leader must possess on the national and world tables.

[rhett o rick]

26. He would be working for the people. No matter how "ready" Clinton is, her first allegience is

to her billionaire backers. How can Democrats side with the billionaires that literally buy our government? Do they think they might get some money or a pat on the head. The 1% doesn't love you. The 1% contributes to our poverty.

[PBass]

42. This kind of overheated rhetoric is laughable:

"No matter how "ready" Clinton is, her first allegience is to her billionaire backers."

[rhett o rick]

44. They don't donate a billion dollars for fun, they invest it and expect to get a huge return.

That return will come at the expense of the poor and working class that Goldman-Sachs doesn't give a crap about.

[Major Hogwash]

56. They gave it to her out of the goodness of their hearts.

Corporations are people, my friend.

They're beginning to sound like Mitt Romney's supporters!

[Live and Learn]

61. +1 nt

[Live and Learn]

63. Some people just don't care. My guess it that most of them think they are

profiting from it too.

To heck with Climate Change too. Some people really can't see the forest from the trees.

[rhett o rick]

65. Read "The Authoritarian Personality" by Eric Fromm. It's a short essay, couple of

pages, and he explains it very well. We teach too little of being open-minded, skeptical, and always be wary of authority.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

48. Yeah, he should agree to take PAC money and bomb the world.

[Dem2]

5. Yes, obviously

[Codeine]

8. Ah guess ah iz just too dumm then.

[MohRokTah]

30. THREAD WIN!!!!

[lunamagica]

35. oh, wow

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[Cha]

53. Really. Says BS won and then says Hill's fans aren't capable of thinking... Typical MO in

bernie's name. Translation.. insults are all they have and Bernie didn't win anything.

[bravenak]

10. LOL!

[in_cog_ni_to]

11. Yes he did! He killed it!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[restorefreedom]

13. the m$m will see it differently, no doubt. nt

[Lilith Rising]

14. Way to call everyone who might

disagree *stupid*.

How to Win Friends and Influence People?

[demwing]

16. This was, IMO, O'Malley's night

Bernie did fine, but MOM was pretty damned compelling

[Metric System]

17. What an insulting post.

[DianeK]

20. what is insulting?

i don't take it back..it is not meant to be insulting..but if your mind is wide open then you get it..if not..well ..live with the consequences

[Metric System]

21. You really don't get it.

[DianeK]

25. it is not so attractive for you to do the whining for

your candidate..she lost this one..suck it up

[Major Hogwash]

57. What'd ya expect?

They're going through boxes of kleenex now at a phenomenal rate!

[Orangepeel]

19. He had highs and lows.

He did good overall, but I though his answer to the opening question about Paris came across as deflecting, and I thought his answer to the crisis question at the end was terrible.

[UglyGreed]

24. K/R

Bernie!!!

[Jack Rabbit]

27. My two cents . . .

• All three candidates did well;
• Mrs. Clinton was forced on the defensive often, and I believe as a result finished a respectable but definite third; her answer about not being influenced by Wall Street $$$ is as unconvincing as similar remarks by Justice Kennedy in the Citizens United decision; her position on Glass-Steagall is just plain wrong and an example of why her answer about not being influenced by Wall Street $$$ is unconvincing;
• While Mrs. did well, she definitely did not win the debate and some of the remarks up post are just a lot of hooey and any remarks from the establishment media that she won were probably written days ago and mailed in.
• The best lines of the night were Bernie's "I'm not as good a socialist as Eisenhower" and O'Malley' referent to The Donald as "an immigrant-bashing carnival barker."

[Kalidurga]

50. the Donald as "an immigrant-bashing carnival barker."

That one got a huge round of applause at the debate party.

It was a party where all Democrats were encouraged to attend but it was like 28 for Bernie and 2 for Hillary and 1 for O'Malley. I think Bernie is going to win Minnesota easy. I run into a lot of Bernie people.

[reddread]

31. and the drinking class, classicist

[Jarqui]

34. Bernie HAD to win tonight

He had to close the gap in the Iowa polls - I'm almost sure he did.

The other thing he did tonight by trouncing Hillary was to provide some credibility to his campaign. He really needed this performance tonight and he delivered.

We can talk about Hillary's advertising bucks - and having so much more than Bernie. But there are some other big TV bucks to be had as Donald Trump's ratings have shown. The networks are hungry for ratings. They can put their finger on the scale here and give Bernie a little more free exposure like they did with Obama (& like they have with Trump). That will tighten up the race some. If they do, they've got a primary conte$t for the winter and maybe the spring ....

[AZ Progressive]

38. and among anyone else who's unbiased and watched it

[MrMickeysMom]

43. Yes, he did...

But be careful how you say Hillary lost, because if you compare it to a sinking rock, someone will hide your post and say you are sexist.

So, let's see.... Bernie Sanders won, and yes, it was largely due to the thinking numbers of people who can hear and see the debate.

O'Malley (in my opinion) did very well, but Hillary did not - not because she isn't smart enough, it's because she sinks to levels that leave many people not wishing to intrust her to the position of Commander-In-Chief.

How's that? I believe I said it the same way. Now, let's see if someone's so angry that they try to hide my opinion right along with others.

[SoapBox]

45. Yup!

Go Bernie!

[Hekate]

46. You mean the angry old man who kept wagging his finger? Asked a serious foreign policy question...

....for the very first question (because the worst attack on Paris since WW II is front and center just now) he immediately gave his standard economic stump speech. Oooooooo-Kay. It's like he didn't even hear it. Foreign policy is not on the man's radar. However, it is very much going to be on the desk of whoever is in the Oval Office in 2017. And on the literal radar, if this keeps up.

Among the thinking class, that is.

[snort]

52. I'm thinking.

Thinking its time to go to war.

[Cha]

54. Well Done, Hekate!

Yeah, that guy.

[Hekate]

55. OMG, it's kind of nuts here tonight

Here's another one http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=811243

[Cha]

60. Mahalo for jumping into the fray and setting them straight on the facts. They can twist anything..

PretzelsRThem.

[Live and Learn]

64. Why is this anymore a serious policy question than the Iraq War authorization that Hillary voted for

and led to this fiasco? Do you suppose more war will help? Because my guess is that is exactly what you will get with Hillary. She has backers that would like to get their money's worth after all.

[Hekate]

66. Foreign policy is a large topic. His answer showed that he has given it no real thought at all...

It's truly important to know what presidential aspirants plan to do in case of international emergency.

I can't do anything about your inability to stop repeating lies about Hillary, but the persons you should be worrying about are the front runners in the GOP. Trump has an easy, simple minded solution. He's going to, and I quote, bomb the shit out of them. All the Rs except Dr Ben Spacey have a ready answer.

What, exactly, does Senator Sanders think we ought to be doing about conditions beyond our shores? Repeating his economic injustice stump speech, which he did, is not an answer.

[Live and Learn]

67. Resorting to personal attacks now? What lies?

Hillary has already shown she can't be trusted on foreign policy. Your inability to see that, doesn't change the fact.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

47. "among the thinking class"

Yeah, but he needs a majority.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

62. When I read these posts...

So..Bernie obviously won.among the thinking class

When I read these posts I begin to wonder if my interlocutors on this board are all or mostly renowned attorneys, physicians, engineers, philosophers, social science researchers, scientists, Nobel laureates, et cetera.

Since I am sharing a board with all these pillars of intellectual heft if they can send me their curriculum vitae or resume, with personal information redacted, of course, for my reading pleasure I would greatly appreciate it.

It will motivate me as well as all of us to step up our game.

Thank you in advance.