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wouldsman

(94 posts)
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 11:22 PM Nov 2015

Hillary couldn't handle 13 debates.

At this point in the election cycle of 2007 we were at 13 or 14 debates already. If Hillary is on stage next to two highly principled people like Bernie and Martin for too long everyone will start to see right through her.

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Hillary couldn't handle 13 debates. (Original Post) wouldsman Nov 2015 OP
.. mcar Nov 2015 #1
Which is why we have six, some on Saturdays. TDale313 Nov 2015 #2
yup. dws must have been promised something good. nt restorefreedom Nov 2015 #8
We really only have 3. morningfog Nov 2015 #11
Yeah, iirc the other three were tbd. n/t TDale313 Nov 2015 #14
Did we get dates for the final 2? I think they're both after Super Tuesday anyway. merrily Nov 2015 #16
Wow you must be on some good drugs Evergreen Emerald Nov 2015 #3
She won the popular vote in 2008 after 27 debates. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #4
there is NO primary popular vote karynnj Nov 2015 #7
She lost the delegate count by around 100 mythology Nov 2015 #10
I agree it is close, but I really really did not want to let karynnj Nov 2015 #13
Clinton's delegates seated in the DNC represented a larger population. joshcryer Nov 2015 #12
+1 merrily Nov 2015 #17
Silly..... Sheepshank Nov 2015 #5
Can you handle eleven hours of testimony? Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #6
I think I could wouldsman Nov 2015 #19
Wasn't trying to change minds but she has gotten great reviews and had an opportunity to show she is Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #20
Bwahaha. Metric System Nov 2015 #9
??? ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #15
????? revmclaren Nov 2015 #18
She did 27 the last time.... Historic NY Nov 2015 #21

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
2. Which is why we have six, some on Saturdays.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 11:23 PM
Nov 2015

The debate schedule was clearly designed to her advantage.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
11. We really only have 3.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 11:40 PM
Nov 2015

This is the second, the other scheduled "debate" was not a debate but a "forum" with only one candidate onstage at a time.

There is only one more debate scheduled before Super Tuesday.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
7. there is NO primary popular vote
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 11:33 PM
Nov 2015

Some states do caucuses, some do primaries. In some caucus states, there was nothing that could be said to be the votes. This didn't matter because delegates are how they are suppose to be added. Some caucus states were not included in the total at all and the rest were far underweighted. It was adding apples and oranges.

There was no talk of the primary vote in 2008 until HRC under performed on super tuesday.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
10. She lost the delegate count by around 100
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 11:38 PM
Nov 2015

Granted that is after giving full delegate counts to Florida and Michigan, but it wasn't a blow out for Obama. He had a much better plan and won based on that, but Hillary was close the entire way, even if consistently a bit behind.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
13. I agree it is close, but I really really did not want to let
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 11:43 PM
Nov 2015

The fiction of the "primary popular vote". I do get why HRC people floated it in 2008 as justification to possibly having a disproportionate number of super delegates going with the winner of that primary vote. THat did not happen. They went mostly to the winner of the most regular delegates.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
12. Clinton's delegates seated in the DNC represented a larger population.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 11:43 PM
Nov 2015

Than the delegates seated representing Obama.

This is a fact.

Regardless Clinton did not try to force a brokered convention, and she busted her ass campaigning for Obama.

wouldsman

(94 posts)
19. I think I could
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 11:57 PM
Nov 2015

But if after 11 hours of testimony you can't change anyone's mind you might need 17 months more.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
20. Wasn't trying to change minds but she has gotten great reviews and had an opportunity to show she is
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 12:01 AM
Nov 2015

Very capable of being president or anything else she wants.

revmclaren

(2,529 posts)
18. ?????
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 11:49 PM
Nov 2015


Thank you...I had a hard day at work and needed a laugh. Wish I had what you are smoking but cant do that any more.




Clinton 2016.. More and more a reality. Cant wait for the coming debate boost...Again!

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