2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary couldn't handle 13 debates.
At this point in the election cycle of 2007 we were at 13 or 14 debates already. If Hillary is on stage next to two highly principled people like Bernie and Martin for too long everyone will start to see right through her.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)The debate schedule was clearly designed to her advantage.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)This is the second, the other scheduled "debate" was not a debate but a "forum" with only one candidate onstage at a time.
There is only one more debate scheduled before Super Tuesday.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)That cause delusion!
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)karynnj
(59,504 posts)Some states do caucuses, some do primaries. In some caucus states, there was nothing that could be said to be the votes. This didn't matter because delegates are how they are suppose to be added. Some caucus states were not included in the total at all and the rest were far underweighted. It was adding apples and oranges.
There was no talk of the primary vote in 2008 until HRC under performed on super tuesday.
mythology
(9,527 posts)Granted that is after giving full delegate counts to Florida and Michigan, but it wasn't a blow out for Obama. He had a much better plan and won based on that, but Hillary was close the entire way, even if consistently a bit behind.
karynnj
(59,504 posts)The fiction of the "primary popular vote". I do get why HRC people floated it in 2008 as justification to possibly having a disproportionate number of super delegates going with the winner of that primary vote. THat did not happen. They went mostly to the winner of the most regular delegates.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Than the delegates seated representing Obama.
This is a fact.
Regardless Clinton did not try to force a brokered convention, and she busted her ass campaigning for Obama.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)But you are entitled to that opinion. Live it up.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)wouldsman
(94 posts)But if after 11 hours of testimony you can't change anyone's mind you might need 17 months more.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Very capable of being president or anything else she wants.
Metric System
(6,048 posts)ismnotwasm
(42,014 posts)That makes zero sense.
revmclaren
(2,529 posts)Thank you...I had a hard day at work and needed a laugh. Wish I had what you are smoking but cant do that any more.
Clinton 2016.. More and more a reality. Cant wait for the coming debate boost...Again!
GOTV