it was his fucking STAFFER, people!!

[restorefreedom]

please, stop this nonsense about how bernie "got upset" about this being a foreign policy debate. its total bullshit and y'all know it. an overworked and stressed staffer may have made a snark about a schedule change. this has zero to do with bernie or his suitability for the office.

if your candidate is worthy and solid, you don't need to trot out slanderous bullshit to make a case for him or her.

so cut it out. it just makes people look petty and underconfident about their candidate

have a nice evening

[Cali_Democrat]

1. What if it was a Hillary staffer?

I can only imagine the posts we'd see in GDPee.

[daleanime]

13. So where's the list of approved questions....

that we're allowed to ask Hillary?

Can't leave everything to your imagination.

[mcar]

36. Oh yeah

[thucythucy]

45. And those posts would be equally bogus.

Campaigns are pressure cookers. Even my own limited experience was more stress than I could handle at times. Lack of sleep is a big factor, the constant traveling, the crap food diet---unless campaigns are hugely different now from when I was involved (and yes, it was a LONG time ago) it seems the occasional meltdown is to be expected.

I'm sure there are supporters of Secretary Clinton who have and will say some things that cross the line. This doesn't necessarily reflect on the candidate. My only exceptions to that would be a staffer who makes an obvious racist, sexist, homophobic or ableist statement which is tolerated by the campaign, or breaks a law or clearly violates widely accepted ethical standards, which aren't repudiated by the campaign and/or the candidate.

But the occasional stressed out meltdown? Let's cut these folks some slack. They're living the campaign 24-7--it's perhaps the most important thing in their lives at this moment, and though there's no harm in calling them out for an obvious gaffe, let's not let the contest between these two fine candidates suddenly hinge on the occasional poor judgment of one or two of their staffers.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

50. Oh, so that makes it okay, then.

[Hortensis]

2. Presidents are supposed to age overnight from stress, not voters.

Have a nice evening yourself, Restore. Any Xanax in the house by chance?

[restorefreedom]

4. thanks.. hahaha i wish!

chocolate will have to do.

[Hortensis]

17. There you go! Enjoy the debate.

[restorefreedom]

30. you too! nt

[mythology]

55. I'm confused

I have never associated chocolate with having to do in that sense as if it were some sort of second choice rather than the first choice. That seems so strange.

And yes this is a silly issue. I'm sure the campaign worked hard to prepare for the debate on the existing rules and it's frustrating when something comes up to change that, coupled with a highly stressful environment and somebody might have said something impolite. I snapped at somebody at work a few years ago under much less stressful situations. Shit happens.

[restorefreedom]

56. i actually prefer chocolate

but i suppose pharm grade relaxants would have a more powerful effect. hopefully i am not thst stressed out....

[DCBob]

3. Then the "fucking STAFFER" should retract his complaint.

[restorefreedom]

5. why?

he/she doesn't have a right to an opinion?

do you really think comments like this aren't being made daily by all camps? the press should be ashamed of themselves presenting this as legitimate news.

[DCBob]

16. Does the "fucking STAFFER" represent Bernie or himself?

[restorefreedom]

29. unless the words come from bernie himself

they are irrelevant

[DCBob]

37. If they are irrelevant then he should retract the complaint.

[restorefreedom]

39. thats why he/she doesn't need to

because it is meaningless.

its like if a hillary aide said she hates chocolate! who cares?

[DCBob]

41. Except that the staffer was attempting to pressure CBS into changing the format of the debate.

If he isn't speaking for Bernie he should inform CBS so they will also know his comments are "meaningless" and can simply ignore the fool.

[jeff47]

49. No, KEEPING the format of the debate.

This was supposed to be a debate focused on economics. Foreign policy was not going to be a significant part of it.

Since the DNC has limited us to so few debates, that means those economic questions will not be asked in a debate.

[jeff47]

6. Stop feeding the trolls.

The entire point of their bullshit is to get you to make an OP like this one.

The problem is with only 4 debates, changing the entire content of this debate means many issues will not be covered at all in a debate.

Instead, they're hoping you'll confirm their anonymously-sourced story and its bullshit framing. Stop helping them.

[restorefreedom]

19. good advice

we all have our weak moments i suppose. and lying really pisses me off.

[MADem]

7. Link? What are you talking about? nt

[corkhead]

12. here's one

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251807594

you're welcome

[restorefreedom]

14. just a sampling

there are others

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251807167

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251807594

[Rosa Luxemburg]

8. Hillary's campaign is terrified of what is next

[hill2016]

10. somehow

I don't think they are the ones who want to limit the amount of time spent on foreign policy ...

[Fawke Em]

26. They should be.

[Metric System]

15. I do suppose gearing up for the general election is nerve wracking.

[Beausoir]

82. LOL. Yeah. Hillary is TERRIFIED of that drooling, sweating old fool.

[Judi Lynn]

85. Don't know how you feel ok posting here. No Democrat I know would speak this way about this man. n/t

[msrizzo]

9. I know it was his staffer...

and accordingly, I have been shaking my head at his campaign. I have no idea what Bernie's reaction would have been had he been on the phone, but he is in charge of his campaign and his staff. That's how it works.

[72DejaVu]

42. Hopefully, if he is elected

he will assemble an administration with more care than he has taken with his amateurish campaign staff.

[AtomicKitten]

11. It's just more pointless nonsense to distract from the real issues, but does titillate the children.

[hill2016]

18. real issue

does Bernie have the necessary foreign policy and national security gravitas to be President?

[AtomicKitten]

23. Yes and he's far preferable to the neoliberal hawk.

[Hepburn]

24. Yes.

Next question.

[restorefreedom]

25. of course not

a 40 year politician, mayor, rep and senator has no busniess even running. hard to believe he made it this far.

heavy snark no extra charge

[Rosa Luxemburg]

34. yes he is stable and competent

[SammyWinstonJack]

57. I'll bet you thought Obama did.

So why not Bernie?

[GoneFishin]

20. Forget about it. They are desperate because they got nothing.

[MineralMan]

21. Yes. We'll hear from the candidate soon.

Nothing else matters.

[restorefreedom]

27. a voice of calm and reason.

refreshing.

[MineralMan]

31. The debate begins shortly.

The discussions are premature. After the debate, we'll know how the candidates handled this issue and can decide what we think. Until then, we have nothing to discuss.

[restorefreedom]

33. thanks for the reasoned and logical approach, mm! nt

[Fawke Em]

22. I'm not worried about it.

I think he kicks her ass on how her IWR vote led to ISIS and he wins.

It's really that simple.

[restorefreedom]

28. as long as the mods let him speak

something tells me it may not be a slam dunk. mods like to shit stir

[DianeK]

32. no worries!

Bernie will kill this debate...and perhaps people will actually watch it and defeat DWS intentions! DWS and Hillary are scared to death that people will actually watch!

[restorefreedom]

35. "your confidence gives me strength"

a mummy movie watcher might catch that quote...but i do like the confidence! it helps

[jkbRN]

38. Best article of his response and events summarized:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/rival-campaign-bernie-sanders-aide-threw-fit-about-debate-shift-20151114

[restorefreedom]

40. makes sense. thx for the link. nt

[passiveporcupine]

44. "someone at the unnamed campaign was making "a mountain out of a molehill"

According to an unnamed source, the changes did not sit well with a representative for Bernie Sanders' campaign.

Hmmm, I wonder which unnamed campaign from which an unnamed source, is trying to make an issue out of this?

[George II]

43. First, I don't think anyone said SANDERS was upset, but the "Sanders campaign".

And It wasn't just any staffer it was his top strategist, Mark Longabaugh.

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/sanders-aide-pushes-back-against-cbs-switch-to-215805298.html

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/14/politics/paris-terror-attacks-bernie-sanders-democratic-debate/index.html

It was during a conference call that several people were involved with. I'm sure the full story will come out by tomorrow.

[thebighobgoblin]

46. I see why Camp Bern's upset. He doesn't do foreign policy.

Bernie's a one-trick pony. "Let's talk about Citizens United."

Is that what his presidency's based on? Overturning a Supreme Court case? LOL!

[restorefreedom]

47. the debate is on cbs

you should check it out

[Hissyspit]

48. Oh, nonsense.

[SoapBox]

51. Red scare, Racist scare, Sexist scare...now the Upset scare...

They grasp at straws...'cause they have nothing else.

Lame.

[restorefreedom]

54. yup. nt

[AgingAmerican]

52. Some people are easily excitable

[restorefreedom]

53. or having a bad day, it happens. nt

[billhicks76]

58. I Just Had A Post Hidden For Calling Hillary A NeoCon Like Liberal Tony Blair

And the hypocritical Clintonites claimed I was calling her a nasty name. So describing her foreign policy is name calling? I'm really beginning to actually hate these people and find them disgusting, petty, selfish and generally full of it. Good luck bringing people together. You cant even face the truth.

[restorefreedom]

59. for sure, things are getting ugly. debate is gloves off too. nt

[billhicks76]

61. Yes Clinton Supporters React In A Very Ugly Manner

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But censorship??? Thats the only card they have to play? They cannot deny that not only republicans are neocons. Did they not witness what liberal democrat Tony Blair did??? He is a neocon. And Hillary supported all the same war mongering policies. These people just cannot face the truth and live in a magic bubble. It blows my mind that all the things they accused Bush followers of doing when tuning out reality they do EXACTLY the same. Bernie is the only fresh air we have seen in decades. And they want to wish him away for their own petty reasons? Politics is just a sport to these people. They must not have any real life or death situations to face. If they cared at all about our country they would step back and let Bernie do what they cannot.

[restorefreedom]

62. it illustrates beautifully, or horribly,

the folly and danger of identity and cult personality politics.

[billhicks76]

65. They Have Been Played Like A Violin And Obviously Deserve To Be Dissappointed

But how can they be so dumbed down to be fooled by cult of personality politics? I thought they were educated. I'm ashamed of any corporate stooge that pretends to care about protecting our democracy while doing the opposite and voting for Wall St selected tools. Trust is the basis for any relationship. Everyone knows this. And yet they still support Hillary when everyone definitely TRUSTS Bernie while most people wince in pain at how untrustworthy Hillary appears. She cant even hide it...she exudes it with every breath. These followers of hers are in for a rude awakening when they discover that if half her party cannot stand her then she stands no chance in a general where the other side already hates her too.

[restorefreedom]

67. agree. a ge is out of reach and

i am also mystified by people who say they believe in progressive ideas and support a candidate who obviously is antithetical to those principles.

it is especially stunning because most here were strongly against the iwr, cu, and for single payer health care.

i will never get it.

[billhicks76]

69. Anyone Can Talk A Talk

You gotta walk the walk. Are people so dumb and foolish here they dont understand that little law of nature? Do they not recall in 2000 when Bush ran as a compassionate, moderate? Anyone can say anything. You have to prove it.

[restorefreedom]

70. i am flummoxed, truly. nt

[Duval]

60. K&R!!

[thebighobgoblin]

63. Bernie went off the deep end tonight.

He proved himself incapable.

[restorefreedom]

64. it was on cbs....

don't know what you were watching

[MrMickeysMom]

75. Said the person with the audio and video inoperable...

He was spectacular and if you don't like it, why don't you just weigh in with the Time and Fox polls. Sanders is easily winning this debate in the high 80 percentile.

[thebighobgoblin]

88. O'Malley did well. He might have won.

But not Bernie.

[MrMickeysMom]

89. Self-fulfilling prophesy aside...

... reality has a way of clearing out what we want to believe.

Yes, O'Malley did well.

[MrMickeysMom]

66. I posted about this earlier and they don't really give a crap...

It was the "camp", you see. When I asked how the whole camp was on speaker phone, they didn't connect the lunacy of this whole assumption.

So, I guess they were not having a nice evening. Now that the 2nd debate is over, they're REALLY not having a nice evening...

Go figure...

[restorefreedom]

68. yup. its hard to have a tough campaign day

i am not upset about it anymore, but at that moment, the lies that bernie himself was saying that really pissed me off.

feeling better after seeing the debate

[MrMickeysMom]

71. What lies are those?

[restorefreedom]

73. some said sanders was upset about it when it was a staffer

or couldn't handle being president when he had nothing to do with the comment.

dirty pool.

[MrMickeysMom]

74. I say again... What lies?

[restorefreedom]

76. i left off the user names for privacy

Sanders refuses to spend more time talking about terrorism

as President you do not get to ignore national emergencies just because you're not prepared for them

If Bernie can't handle the sudden change....
then he's clearly not ready to be president.

[MrMickeysMom]

77. I say a third time... WHAT LIES are you talking about?

Refusing to spend more time talking about something? Is THAT your definition of a lie?

If so, you need to look up the definition of a LIE.

[restorefreedom]

78. it fits my definition, and it was designed to malign and smear based on the wrong info.

have a nice evening.

[MrMickeysMom]

79. Oh brother...

Yeah... G'Nite. Get some sleep.

[restorefreedom]

80. yes, good idea! i am kinda tired..... nt

[ucrdem]

72. didn't see the debate, but just seeing your subject line

makes me suspect that Hill ran the table again.

[restorefreedom]

83. actually, bernie killed it tonight

this all happened much earlier

[Eko]

81. To be fair, the majority of "clinton ran a racist campaign"

has nothing to do with what she said as it does with what someone on her staff said. So turn about is fair play.

[restorefreedom]

84. i would not care to hear anything she didn't say, either

but politics is nasty all around i suppose

[Bread and Circus]

86. lol clinton totally lost the foreign pokicy portion of the debate. It was disgraceful.

[restorefreedom]

87. yeah so much for the sanders meltdown. nt