Sanders aide 'threw a fit' over debate changes.Posting by request.

[elleng]

http://www.kspr.com/news/politics/sanders-aide-threw-a-fit-over-debate-changes/21051736_36456000

[Godhumor]

1. Requested by me, before anyone asks

The link to a written story on the incident was completely swallowed in the other thread that was rapidly expanding.

[Thinkingabout]

2. I was thinking when I read this, I thought are there going to be occasions such as the attacks in

Paris which may happen from time to time, yes, not showing the ability to make changes in plans should be displayed tonight. I am waiting for the accusations Clinton arranged the attacks to mess up the debates. Our world continues to change.

[artislife]

20. It is an aide. Not the candidate.

[SusanCalvin]

22. Really. I hope/assume Bernie will have some words with that person. nt

[Thinkingabout]

25. I did not say it was Sanders.

[artislife]

28. No, but your reaction and others with the h are acting as if. nt

[SusanCalvin]

42. Exactly. nt

[Thinkingabout]

68. I do not need my post rewritten, and I never reacted that way, when you read my first post and

Reacted it was not my reaction. I dont need my post flip flibbed.

[artislife]

69. Bull.

[Thinkingabout]

70. Go back and read post #2 and post #25.

[artislife]

71. Uncle

I just don't care enough about you to spend anymore time on this.

[Thinkingabout]

72. Sometimes when someone post a comment I dont need it rewritten.

[riversedge]

3. umm. Not a good headline if it were my campaign

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

4. What was the request?

Longabaugh argued that "this wasn't part of the deal. It shouldn't be allowed. It wasn't advertised as a foreign policy debate and it's turning into a debate it wasn't supposed to be," the source added.

Toughen up, buttercup. The whole playing field is tilted against your guy, you really need to get over the idea that anyone has any interest in being 'fair', or that larger events in the world can just be ignored. You're not doing Bernie any favours by getting into a snit, which you should KNOW will be gossiped about in the media.

[1StrongBlackMan]

16. I had to read your post twice ...

I read the part about "being fair" and started typing. Then, I continued reading ... I'm glad I did.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

64. Well, 'fair' wasn't probably the right word

but it does seem to be the one most often thrown around when people seem to feel the world owes them 'better' treatment than they feel they're getting.

And good Lord, if Bernie does make it to the White House, he's going to have to put up with a hell of a lot worse than scheduling changes beyond his control, so his staff needs to learn to suck it up and deal with reality on the ground, not pull the Republican trick of trying to make reality bend to their wishes.

[1StrongBlackMan]

66. ...

Sometimes you just need to work the refs for later in the game.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

67. And that's the kind of old school politics I really don't care for.

I know Bernie can't easily completely fill a staff who both know what's going on while at the same time not being part of the very system I want to see overturned, but damn that sort of thing leaves a sour taste in my mouth. I just have to remind myself again that he's merely the first step towards moving the country left, not anywhere near the endpoint the country needs.

[SusanCalvin]

44. Really.

Not a smart remark. I hope/assume Bernie will have some words with that person. I would.

[UglyGreed]

5. Well you know this unnamed

source is either from the Clinton camp or O'Malley's. Wonder why they needed to do such a thing. BTW is this the fourth thread now or more?

[artislife]

23. About an aide. They still cannot go after the Senator himself.

This kind of Bs makes it harder and harder for me to even envision ever blackening a circle next to her name.

[Thinkingabout]

29. How many times have I read about Clinton's vote on IWR today. more than four.

[merrily]

33. A war vote vs. an aide's snit. Let's think: Which is worth discussing more?

[artislife]

36. Yes. We go after the candidate. She voted for this war.

We go after issues and where the candidate claims to be on any given day.


Most h crap on this site has little to do with Bernie and where he stands against the onslaught of lies, memes and attacks on the people you think surround him. He is pretty decent. He has more great votes and stands on the issues than h.

How many times do you need to see the graph where it lays it all out.

But no, there is such a cult of personality with h.

[Thinkingabout]

49. This is the second time in this thread her vote has been brought up, the staff person should be able

To control their emotions. Changes happens and we have to deal with these changes.

[artislife]

51. 3rd time

She voted for the war!!

[Thinkingabout]

56. Sanders aid had a fit, there are changes made to the debate, a opportunity to see if the candidates

The ability to respond. Good opportunity.

[artislife]

62. We saw how she responded

She voted for the war!

[TexasBushwhacker]

6. An aide threw a fit. BFD

If Bernie or Hillary or Martin threw a fit, that would be a story.

[DCBob]

9. The "story" is why would any politician object to putting additional focus on the Paris event.

This is biggest terror event since 9/11.

[restorefreedom]

11. the quote came from the STAFFER

it was not bernie himself.

so an overworked staffer snarks about a change in schedule. bfd

[Hortensis]

15. Agree, BFD. There is a great deal at stake.

But Bernie did not throw a tantrum, and that's the nonstory.

[restorefreedom]

17. yes, much juicier to make shit up. nt

[Hortensis]

21. Oh, disconnect the pull string and give it a rest.

[restorefreedom]

32. yes i think they need some fresh material. nt

[DCBob]

30. If Bernie didnt have a problem with it then the staffer should have called back..

and said never mind what I said.. Bernie is ok with the changes.

[TexasBushwhacker]

12. But it wasn't Bernie. It was his aide. N/t

[artislife]

26. Against a western country, you should add.

Because this kind of terrorism is going on all over the world.

[cherokeeprogressive]

59. "An aide threw a fit" says an aide working for another candidate, confirmed by an aide working for

a third candidate.

Hmmmm.

[1StrongBlackMan]

7. Do you blame him? ...

This will be the HRC show, since no one on the stage has the foreign policy chops as she.

[virtualobserver]

10. no one voted us into a quagmire quite like she did, i'll grant you that.

[1StrongBlackMan]

24. I vote that she says she regrets ... in hind-sight. n/t

[virtualobserver]

35. I'm worried more about her potential future regrets.

are you still on team O'Malley?

[1StrongBlackMan]

38. Absolutely ... I'm 4 square O'Malley; but, I recognize ...

he has no where near the foreign affairs knowledge or understanding of HRC. If he were to win the presidency, he would have to have a really, really good foreign service team.

[1StrongBlackMan]

40. And oh yeah ...

I'm not concerned about any potential future regrets because if HRC were to be president, she would have/control the intel.

[virtualobserver]

47. as long as she doesn't pick Cheney as her VP,she will be getting much better info than Bush received

[1StrongBlackMan]

53. No doubt. And I don't think that will be a problem. n/t

[virtualobserver]

63. Only Dick Cheney would pick Dick Cheney for VP.

It is hard to imagine the size of the ego of someone who picks himself.

[1StrongBlackMan]

65. LOL ...

Cheney was/is, hopefilly, a one of a fucking evil kind.

[artislife]

41. I keep waiting for the great

OP piece on O'Malley. I think the other supporters have been terrific on presenting what O'Malley stands for and what he has said. I think they would love the elequence of a well written OP on the emotion of support that other OM supporters a still to write.

I loved what O'Malley said after the bombings. He did not turn his back on honest, innocent and decent Muslims in this world.

[virtualobserver]

48. I think that he has a great opportunity tonight to stand out.

[yardwork]

73. Our Vice President Biden did. Lots of other Democrats did.

The posts have now become so divorced from reality, Hillary alone is responsible. Bizarre.

[virtualobserver]

74. She voted to send us to an unnecessary war and you would like to divorce yourself from that reality.

That is what is bizarre. I hold Biden and all Democrats who did that responsible as well.

They all showed poor judgement.

[leftofcool]

27. Quite true

[1StrongBlackMan]

34. Damn ... I pretty proud of myself ...

I didn't see what I wanted to say ... it was something about not being prepped to talk beyond what is the one and only matter of concern.

But I didn't say it.

[SusanCalvin]

50. Just to clarify, "him" = "aide." nt

[1StrongBlackMan]

57. Yes, I know it was Bernie's aide ...

who is/was concerned about the change in format. Do you think he did not voice what was said behind closed doors?

[SusanCalvin]

61. I have no way of knowing, but I could speculate.

Hypothetically, even if it was said behind closed doors, voicing it in public was stupid. It was stupid if it wasn't voiced behind closed doors. It was stupid.

[ronnykmarshall]

8. But, but , but

Hillary doesn't fly COACH!!!

[MineralMan]

13. Presidents have to deal regularly with major news events

on short notice. All of the candidates are running for that office. A major event with implications for the US occurred. I'm very Interested to see how our candidates deal with this sudden event and the need to deal with it. They will have to do that many times if elected.

It is a fair test to present this to them in this debate. How they handle this sudden change will be informative, as will their statements.

Is it inconvenient? Yes, but inconvenient things are part of the job they're applying to us for.

[elleng]

37. Right, and interesting to see how/if/when candidates deal with staffers,

who are probably exhausted, when the staffers err.

[MineralMan]

39. I'm totally uninterested in what staffers say.

I'm very interested in what the candidates will say, though. It is an opportunity to demonstrate the ability to respond under pressure. I consider that a very important ability for a President. I cannot predict how they will do, but I'll be watching closely.

[elleng]

43. It's an absolutely critical ability for a President,

and so is the ability to select, appreciate and admonish staffers and others within an administration.

[SusanCalvin]

45. Exactly. Dumb remark by staffer.

I'm guessing few outside of here noticed.

[JimDandy]

46. Exactly. All three of our candidates better be able to step up tonight

and speak cognizantly about the attack, ISIS, the Iraq war debacle and how to stop feeding the MIC.

[Joe Turner]

14. Sander's aide is right

you don't change the agreed upon debate format. That said, I think Bernie should use this to his advantage by exploiting the truth of why there is a world-wide problem with radical Islam. It was the actions of the Bush Administration and enablers like Hillary and Tony Blair in the invasion of Iraq that created ISIS and fueled terrorism everywhere. Bernie needs to make the point over and over again of Hillary's culpability in this Illegal war and all the problems it has created since.

[jkbRN]

18. Totally agree

[UglyGreed]

19. +1

[hill2016]

31. Well they have changed it and Sanders is free not to show up.

If he can't handle a debate how can he handle a real national crisis?

[Thinkingabout]

55. Maybe we could rewind last night and wait until thr debate is over to show it.

[SusanCalvin]

54. Considering that I think Bernie is quite equipped to address this,

I think it was a REALLY dumb remark by an aide.

[edgineered]

52. Let's hope MO'M can get some words in tonight

Get 'em!

[SusanCalvin]

58. Oh dear.

I must admit that I think Bernie needed to devote more of his opening remarks to Paris, just for the optics, manipulative as that makes me sound.

[flamingdem]

60. Hillary gets lucky again

This is a piece of cake for her.