Friend says Clinton tried to join Marines as exercise in women's rights

[JaneyVee]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/12/politics/hillary-clinton-marines/index.html

Read before commenting.

And article from 1994 with friends making the same claim then: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1994/06/15/hillary-clinton-not-fit-for-the-few-the-proud/1ea062a0-34ec-40eb-bc66-dc4e5e1760eb/

[ibegurpard]

1. Oh realy?

Then why did she leave that part out? If that was the point of the exercise she would have led with that when telling the story. Such bullshit.

[mcar]

2. Makes sense

Henry said the suggestion that Clinton made up the encounter is bogus. She said she believes it was part of a test for how women were treated, rather than an effort to actually serve in the Marines.

"This whole idea that she is fabricating certain things, I am sorry, she has done a lot of things in her life that most women have not done," Henry said. "She was a trailblazer."

[Hepburn]

6. Hillary a trailblazer?!?!?!?!?!?!

He must have missed the part where she was campaigning for Barry Goldwater!

[upaloopa]

16. You missed the part where she was a high school

student when she said she was a Goldwater girl . Then you missed the part were her teacher got her to take the side of Lyndon Johnson in a high school debate. You forgot that she studied for a long time to learn Johnson's positions for the debate. You forgot that she became a Democrat in college and has been ever since
This one's for you

[mcar]

18. Thanks for tackling this zombie claim

[JaneyVee]

21. And forgot that Liz Warren was a Republican until 1996.

[Hepburn]

22. So a teacher assigned her the role of Johnson and that is a biggie for you?

Wow......I had to defend the death penalty when I was in high school debate.

That means nothing.

[upaloopa]

24. It's a biggie for Hillary

Your not running for President thank god

[VanillaRhapsody]

33. She was 17

indeed

[jfern]

42. Women have served in the marines since 1918

You aren't a trailblazer if you pretend to be interested in signing up 56 years later.

[berni_mccoy]

3. So her friend is helping her defend her fabrication... because based on all the facts

that's what it is.

[berni_mccoy]

7. Um, plenty of people here showed how her claim was impossible

No one needs to lie about this stupid claim of Hillary's. On it's face, it is bunk.

[jeff47]

8. How about Clinton's own story?

She claims she told the recruiter in 1975 she was 26, about to be 27. She turned 28 in 1975.

Her own story has her lying about her age.

[riversedge]

4. Cnn Jake Tapper is talking about this now. Talking the friend and her comments.

Earlier the guest made a rather snarky comment--why would she want to join the service. just graduated-she is lawyer.

[berni_mccoy]

9. Which is why the original story isn't believable. Her friend is definitely covering.

[Segami]

30. From CNN article...

"....Fayetteville, said in an interview that she can remember conversations with Clinton and another friend about testing the way the military treated women who were interested in enlisting. They had similar conversations, Henry said, about testing other institutions, too..."

- "...Clinton has never described her visit to the Marine recruiting office in this context..."

Now lets go back to the NYT 1994 story:

She told the group gathered for lunch in the Dirksen Office Building, according to The Associated Press, that she became interested in the military in 1975, the year she married Bill Clinton and the year she was teaching at the University of Arkansas law school in Fayetteville.

She was 27 then, she said, and the Marine recruiter was about 21. She was interested in joining either the active forces or the reserves, she recalled, but was swiftly rebuffed by the recruiter, who took a dim view of her age and her thick glasses. 'Not Very Encouraging'

"You're too old, you can't see and you're a woman," Mrs. Clinton said she was told, adding that the recruiter dismissed her by suggesting she try the Army. "Maybe the dogs would take you," she recalled the recruiter saying.

"It was not a very encouraging conversation," she said. "I decided maybe I'll look for another way to serve my country."

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/06/15/us/hillary-clinton-says-she-once-tried-to-be-marine.html

Now where did she claim back in 1975 (as her friend has stated) that she is "just testing the way military treated women"?

Even if that were the case, it would mean that Hillary's intention was NEVER about enlisting into the Marines but rather to expose how the military treated women interested in enlisting. Why haven't we heard her voice that story version?

After the Marine Corp rejected her, what exactly did she do as "another way to serve my country."?




Take the stink test.......if it smells like sh*t, looks like sh*t, feels like sh*t.....maybe its really sh*t!

[tularetom]

10. "Clinton has never described her visit to the Marine recruiting office in this context"

Convenient how this friend pops up and "explains" the story immediately after it gets national attention and looks like yet another fabrication.

BTW, that quote was from the article that you instructed us to read before commenting.

[TM99]

11. Bullshit!

Here is her story --

"He looks at me and goes, 'Um, how old are you,'" Clinton said at an event in New Hampshire. "And I said, 'Well I am 26, I will be 27.' And he goes, 'Well, that is kind of old for us.' And then he says to me, and this is what gets me, 'Maybe the dogs will take you,' meaning the Army."

Nothing about women or the recruiter pointing out she was a woman, only a comment on her age, which is bogus. For decades the oldest age for 1st time enlistment has been 30 years old. If she was telling the truth, yes, a recruiter would have jumped on getting her a commission with her law degree at 27.

Besides, she has already been caught in the age lie (in 1975, she would have been 27 going on 28), the timing lie (her wedding to Bill in October of that year having moved there that summer), and really the worst lie of all.

She is trying to make Veterans Day about her! Is she talking about vets? No, she is telling a story about her self. And when called out on this fabrication, she doubles down now with the help of her sycophant friends and supporters on the fucking sexism line.

No Hillary, this isn't about you. It isn't about women or sexism. It is about you telling a fucking lie on Veterans Day to try impress someone who you thought needed to be impressed just like you told the Bosnian sniper lie in the last election.

[jeff47]

12. Then why'd she do nothing after she was turned down?

Wouldn't it be a little important to at least draw attention to the recruiter at the time? Especially if she actually was a trailblazer?

[beam me up scottie]

13. Someone is lying:

"It was not a very encouraging conversation," Clinton added. "I decided maybe I'll look for another way to serve my country."

At the time, according to the Times report, Clinton's spokesman chalked the story up to the first lady "exploring all her options."

"I'm never surprised when Mrs. Clinton is doing something service oriented," Neal Lattimore told the paper. "She was just taking in all her options, saying 'This is where I am in my life, this is what fits into my life right now.'"

Bill Clinton, too, has used a similar story about his wife's desire to join the military.

The former president told an audience in Columbus, Indiana during the 2008 election that his then girlfriend "went down and tried to join the Army and they said 'Your eyes are so bad, nobody will take you.'"

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/11/politics/hillary-clinton-marine-army-recruit-2016-election/index.html

If it was simply an "exercise" why did Hillary say she would look for another way to serve her country?

Nice spin from her friend but no cigar.

[berni_mccoy]

27. Well That Just Shot Down The Friend's Story...

LOL.

Wonder if the MSM will pick up on this one.

We should email the author.

[beam me up scottie]

31. They should really coordinate before going on the record.

The op's truthiness questions about Bernie marching with MLK doesn't help her credibility either.

[dorkzilla]

44. Don’t you DARE bring up “cigars”, BMUS!!!

You’re just pulling poor Bill into it, aren’t you? AREN’T YOU??????????

[beam me up scottie]

45. Oops! My bad!

[dorkzilla]

46. Hide your head in SHAME!

[beam me up scottie]

47. ...

[JaneyVee]

14. Updated.

[BlueCheese]

15. This is a Democratic forum, right?

So why are people immediately defaulting to the belief that Hillary Clinton is lying about this, when there's no evidence to support that?

It's simply disgusting.

[JaneyVee]

19. She now has people vouching, yet...

Bernie claims he marched with MLK and no one here questions his claim.

[BlueCheese]

23. I remember this tidbit from the biography of Bill Clinton, called First In His Class.

That was published in the 1990s.

It's not the first time she's said this. She said it 20 years ago publicly. She also told her friends 40 years ago.

People--Democrats-- are calling her a liar based on no evidence at all, and with evidence to the contrary.

I think a lot of people on here need to take a deep breath. All we have to do is see the huge response to that one thread in which some anonymous Reddit poster claimed to have been a paid Clinton troll to see that. People are believing what they want, despite the facts and evidence.

We're supposed to be a reality-based community here.

[beam me up scottie]

26. The problem is that the "vouching" doesn't square with her own version of the story.

Or Bill's version which I cited above.

Bernie claims he marched with MLK and no one here questions his claim.

Bernie has a history of civil rights activism from that time which makes your truther claims absurd. Hillary lied about coming under sniper fire so she has a history of making up stories to make herself seem brave.

[berni_mccoy]

32. Holy hell... if Hillary supporters can't distinguish

that Sanders being at MLK's march and Clinton's bunk story about joining the military (and many others), then there is really no hope for her. She's only going to get the fringe.

[berni_mccoy]

35. LOL Yup, Total Fringe Candidacy now.

[beam me up scottie]

36. Truthers for Hillary! Congratulations, you guys are the new birthers!

[winter is coming]

37. Because it's a sketchy story and she's lied before. n/t

[BlueCheese]

39. She's been telling the same story for 40 years.

Which do you think is more likely?

Clinton told a lie to her friends 40 years ago, for no plausible reason, and just decided to keep repeating it over the next four decades...

or

Clinton is telling the truth.

Are we in some weird place now where we can call Clinton a liar without any evidence at all?

[winter is coming]

41. A, because the story is full of holes, and some people do lie for no plausible reason.

For me, personally, the Bosnian sniper fire story means that Hillary doesn't get the benefit of a doubt on things that don't pass the smell test.

[UglyGreed]

17. LOL at the rec of

your own post

[JaneyVee]

20. ALWAYS.

LOL at people who checks recs.

[UglyGreed]

25. Why rec it if recs

don't matter and no one should look?? Deception at it's finest, just like when you saw Bernie tweet about the meeting with Sandra Bland's mother. Boy gotta love it...

[berni_mccoy]

29. Bwahaahah

That's like Hillary taking a poll of her own friends...

Wait a MINUTE!

[Segami]

38. LOL!

[NCTraveler]

28. Sounds like we should all come out against this rovian tactic.

Another op described what is being done against Clinton as just that.

[Travis_0004]

40. Who cares

Im fine with a canidate who has been in the military. Im fine with one who has not. I just dont care if somebody was almost in the military.

Im going to almost vote for Hilary, but then choose bearnie instead.

[bvar22]

43. LOL.

I like the way you think!