2 million strong SEIU may be gearing up to endorse Clinton next Tuesday

[Godhumor]

Officials at the two-million-member Service Employees International Union have been told to clear their calendars Tuesday. Will this be SEIU’s long-expected Hillary Clinton endorsement? “Everyone is saying the endorsement happens on the 17th,” an SEIU insider tells POLITICO. A final vote from the union’s executive committee has not yet taken place, but the committee will have the chance to hold one at its Tuesday meeting. (The announcement could take place at a planned event with low wage workers also scheduled for Tuesday.)

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SEIU spokesperson Sahar Wali confirmed that the executive board will meet Tuesday but said no endorsement decision had been made. SEIU executive committee Member David Rolf told us the same.
Joe Biden’s decision not to run cleared the path for a Clinton endorsement, the SEIU source tells POLITICO. Some staffers were less than thrilled when Hillary balked at endorsing a $15 minimum wage (she opted for $12 instead). But Clinton was the only presidential candidate to appear (albeit by phone) at SEIU’s Fight for $15 conference in June, and she’s shown up repeatedly alongside SEIU-represented home health care and child care workers during the past several months. There are also some personnel ties between the campaign and the union: SEIU’s former deputy national political director, Heather Stone, became Clinton’s chief of staff in August.

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http://www.politico.com/tipsheets/morning-shift/2015/11/will-seiu-endorse-clinton-tuesday-postal-workers-endorse-sanders-ufcw-files-nafta-complaint-211239

Speculative article, for sure. But the timing makes sense. As the author mentions, the SEIU is expected to join Team Hillary, anyway, so it is really more a question on when the announcement comes.

[Iliyah]

1. K & R

The news source I do not like, but nevertheless, the information is good news if true.

[Godhumor]

3. Eh, I tried to find another, but they're the only reporting on the executive meeting, unfortunately

If it starts popping up other places I will swap out the article.

[Fearless]

2. Their board members you mean

[Godhumor]

4. Just like the 13 member board of the postal union for Bernie

It is how every union endorsement works.

[Fearless]

6. The headline is misleading.

[Godhumor]

11. Hardly, it is the union's endorsement

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Endorsing candidates is part of the duties of the executive board of every union.

[Fearless]

17. Supporting the one that will take their super pac money you mean.

[NurseJackie]

18. +1

[BlueCaliDem]

52. Good comeback and reality check.

This is good news! The SEIU is my union, and I will be tickled pink if they choose t endorse Hillary Clinton.

[Agnosticsherbet]

5. You mean their board acting on the will of The Majority of the Union members.

[Fearless]

7. Except in the case of no fewer than three unions boards that have supported her

There has been significant backlash.

[Agnosticsherbet]

10. Which does not mean they weren't acking on the will of The Majority of their unions members

[Fearless]

15. Except they were. Sorry.

[Agnosticsherbet]

21. Since you agree that they were acting on the will of the majority, what's the problem?

[Fearless]

25. Not what I said.

[lewebley3]

13. They will all be board when Hillary gets the nomination

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[Fearless]

16. Like in 2008?

[mythology]

44. That's an exaggeration

There were some people upset on Facebook. That doesn't qualify as significant backlash. Nobody was pressured into resigning, none of the unions took back the endorsement.

I'm sure I could find a postal worker who doesn't like their union endorsing Sanders. That doesn't mean it doesn't reflect the majority of their members.

[lewebley3]

12. Sanders sour grapes: Hillary has great union support across the board

[tammywammy]

47. 75% of their members support Clinton

This would be the board representing its members

Even so, the next major union poised to make an endorsement — the Service Employees International Union, which represents 2 million workers — is expected to throw its support behind Clinton. Union officials say their internal polling shows 75% of their members favor her. Sanders supporters may be louder, and may be concentrated in early-voting states getting a lot of attention, SEIU officials say, but Clinton is the candidate most of the union finds appealing.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-bernie-sanders-labor-20151106-story.html

[BlueCaliDem]

53. I'm one of the 75% - and proudly so. :-)

[bahrbearian]

8. "2 million strong SEIU workers" will not all vote for Hilliary

[Blue_Adept]

19. Just like all 200,000 postal union members won't vote for Bernie

[oasis]

43. To be clear, the National Association of Letter Carriers have NOT

endorsed Bernie Sanders. The AFL-CIO affiliated, NALC has a membership of over 300,000+.

The union endorsing Bernie is the American Postal Workers union which represents postal clerks, mail handlers and custodians.

Interesting to note, the letter carriers union, (NALC) endorsed Hillary way back in Sept. of 2007 more than a year before the national elections. Hillary attended and addressed union members at their national convention in July, 2008.

I suspect they are holding off their endorsement of Hillary this cycle because of the premature pick last time.

[NurseJackie]

20. Some may even vote for a Republican.

But it's probably safe to say that the vast majority of them will vote for Hillary Clinton.

[Fearless]

26. Not when she loses the primary

[NurseJackie]

30. Notgonnahappen. Hillary's doing very well.

Get back in touch when Bernie's national poll numbers and trends are within the margin of error.

[Fearless]

31. She's doing worse than last time.

[NurseJackie]

33. I know that's exciting for many ...

... please keep me posted and let me know when he's actually got a chance and polls within the margin of error. Until then, it's just white noise.

[Fearless]

40. Denial is a river in Egypt.

[NurseJackie]

41. Oooo ... clever ... did you come up with that all by yourself?

Neener neener comebacks are a poor substitute for actual poll results that show Bernie moving within the margin of error. Get back with me when Bernie's poll numbers are better.

[Godhumor]

42. She was a good ten points worse in national polls at this time in 2007

But sure, doing worse.

[Fearless]

45. False.

[Godhumor]

46. Shame that writing "false" doesn't make it true

Because it is so easy to check. Using RCP, which still has their 2008 data, I wrote about this just the other day in a different post.

As of Nov 4th 2015, Clinton had 54.6% support. As of Nov 4th 2007, Clinton had 44.2% support.

She is doing better than 2008.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/democratic_presidential_nomination-191.html#polls

[postatomic]

9. Great news

Hillary Clinton is developing a strong General Election foundation.

[JonLeibowitz]

27. Her mistake! Have to win a primary first. She didn't learn much from her strong campaign in 2008

against McCain. Or was it for McCain? I forget, sometimes Hillary History is a bit murky.

[Cha]

28. How true, postatomic

POTUS!

Hillary Clinton Lands a Key Endorsement From the League of Conservation Voters

http://www.thenation.com/article/hillary-clinton-lands-key-endorsement-from-league-of-conservation-voters/

http://www.lcv.org/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Conservation_Voters

Clinton~Labor Unions

• AFSCME – American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, representing 1.3 million
• AFT – American Federation of Teachers, representing 1.6 million
• BAC – International Union of Bricklayers and Allied Craftworkers, representing 76,233
• IAM – International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers, representing 570,423
• ILA - International Longshoremen's Association, representing 65,000
• IUOE - International Union of Operating Engineers, representing 374,521
• IUPAT – International Union of Painters and Allied Trades, representing 103,858
• NEA – National Education Association, representing 3 million
• OPCMIA – Operative Plasterers' and Cement Masons' International Association, representing 39,000
• UA – United Association of Journeymen and Apprentices of the Plumbing, Pipefitting and Sprinkler Fitting Industry of the U.S. and Canada, representing 329,954
• UBC – The United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America, representing 520,000
• United Union of Roofers, Waterproofers and Allied Workers, representing 22,000

Thank you, George This is an awesome list of Labor Unions!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251798104

[oasis]

49. Impressive list.

I've no doubt more will follow after HRC gets a few primaries under her belt.

[jkbRN]

14. I'm sure they'll also

Be gearing up to watch the tpp take their jobs.

[tiredtoo]

22. Say it ain't so

Lots of good people in seiu. Don't fall for the corporate controlled media bias. If you can't endorse Bernie, do not endorse any candidate at this time.

[ieoeja]

23. "SEIU’s former deputy national political director, Heather Stone, became Clinton’s chief of staff.."

Again? Has any union endorsed her yet which does *not* currently have a ranking union official on Clinton's staff or a former Clinton staffer as a current ranking union official?

"Hiring" union officials just may turn out to be Hillary's smartest compaign expenditure.

[tammywammy]

48. 75% of the members support Clinton

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-bernie-sanders-labor-20151106-story.html

Even so, the next major union poised to make an endorsement — the Service Employees International Union, which represents 2 million workers — is expected to throw its support behind Clinton. Union officials say their internal polling shows 75% of their members favor her. Sanders supporters may be louder, and may be concentrated in early-voting states getting a lot of attention, SEIU officials say, but Clinton is the candidate most of the union finds appealing.

[sadoldgirl]

24. Terrific, that will save me my contribution! n/t

[Cha]

29. Hillary Supporter, Delores Huerta ~#Fightfor15!

SEIU WI StateCouncil ?@SEIU_WI_SC
Dolores Huerta out with us bright and early Fighting for 15 #FightFor15
3:10 AM - 10 Nov 2015

Hillary Clinton Shows Her Support For The Fight For 15 Campaign

"Your advocacy is changing our country for the better," Clinton tells protesters.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-minimum-wage_5641f9afe4b0411d30726d3a



Mahalo Godhumor

[cherokeeprogressive]

32. As IF the SEIU endorsement means TWO MILLION SEIU VOTES...

Spoiler: It doesn't.

[Sheepshank]

34. S'okay...you got Nina Turner today. It's all good. Nt

[cherokeeprogressive]

36. I couldn't give a fuck about Nina Turner's endorsement any more than I could give a fuck for a

Board of Directors of a labor union's endorsement any more than I could give a fuck about a Senator's endorsement or a Congressperson's endorsement any more than I could give a fuck about a newspaper's editorial board's endorsement or a pundit's endorsement.

I care about votes, and none of the above amount to a fart in the wind blowing at the summit of Mount Everest. All of the people mentioned above number in the hundreds at the least, and a few thousand at the most. More than ONE HUNDRED EIGHTEEN FUCKING MILLION votes were cast in the 2012 presidential election.

Followers and sycophants live and die by their candidate's endorsements or lack thereof. The rest of us think with our minds rather than our hearts.

[Karma13612]

37. well THIS SEIU 1199 member will NOT NOT NOT

be voting for Hillary.

I am for Bernie Sanders and will make my voice heard loud and clear with my local union rep.

Darn it

[Karma13612]

38. oh yeah, just so there's no confusion.

The union members don't get a say.

This is done at the top level of management.

No one asks for the membership's input, at least not me.

[wyldwolf]

39. and then clickity click on facebook from people pretending to be union members

[reformist2]

50. "2 million strong"... lol. As if they are all going to vote as a bloc for Hillary. Nice try.

[Godhumor]

51. No one said anything about voting as a bloc.

But the 2 million member union is getting ready to endorse Hillary.