Bernie has NO detailed plans! Grand ideas but no substance.

[pinstikfartherin]

I mean, he's not a sitting Senator or anything with bills he sponsors and co-sponsors. There's no way to look at all of them to get details about his platform and how he'd get these things done. He's useless! How can anyone vote for that?



Women


Paycheck Fairness Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/862/text

Women's Pension Protection Act of 2015
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/2110/text

Access to Contraception for Women Servicemembers and Dependents Act of 2015
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/358

Women's Health Protection Act of 2015
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/217

Affordability Is Access Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/1532/text

Women Veterans and Families Health Services Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/469

Pregnant Workers Fairness Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/1512


Families and Children

Strong Start for America's Children Act of 2015
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/1380/text

Family and Medical Insurance Leave Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/1380/text

WIC Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/1796/text


Corporations, Tax Breaks

Too Big To Fail, Too Big To Exist Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/1206

Corporate Tax Dodging Prevention Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/922/text

Responsible Estate Tax Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/1677/text

Stop Subsidizing Multimillion Dollar Corporate Bonuses Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/1127

21st Century Glass-Steagall Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/1709


HealthCare

American Health Security Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/1782/text

Prescription Drug Affordability Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/2023/text

Comprehensive Dental Reform Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/570

Protecting Seniors and Social Security
Social Security Expansion Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/731/text


Justice Reform

Justice is Not For Sale Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/2054/text

Ending Federal Marijuana Prohibition Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/2237/text

Comprehensive Justice and Mental Health Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/993/text

End Racial Profiling Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/1056

Smarter Sentencing Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/502/text


Investing in and Protecting Our Workers

Pay Workers A Living Wage Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/1832/text

Rebuild America Act of 2015
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/268/text

Workplace Democracy Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/2142

Guaranteed Paid Vacation Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/1564

Invest In American Jobs Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/1043


Fighting for Our Youth

College for All Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/1373/text

Employ Young Americans Now Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/1506/text


Veterans

Restore Honor to Service Members Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/1766

Veteran Housing Stability Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/1885

Veterans Justice Outreach Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/2120

Veterans Compensation Cost-of-Living Adjustment Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/1493

Military and Veteran Caregiver Services Improvement Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/1085

Wounded Warrior Research Enhancement Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/1905

Veterans’ Access to Childcare Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/1948

Manufacturing Jobs for Veterans Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/344


Protecting Our Democracy

Democracy Day Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/1969


Protecting Our Environment/Clean Energy Investment

Low-Income Solar Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/1713/text

End Polluter Welfare Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/1041

Keep It in the Ground Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/2238/text

Stop Arctic Ocean Drilling Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/1794

COAST Anti-Drilling Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/1042


..................................................

Congress.gov is your friend. Visit! Browse! Tons more to see and digest. It's not that hard, people.

[ms liberty]

1. K&R...n/t

[The Wielding Truth]

176. K & R 2! Bernie explains it all! Great post! We need Bernie!

[HerbChestnut]

2. A little bit of research goes a long way.

Thanks, OP.

[hedda_foil]

155. Thank YOU, Herbchestnut, for providing threads that detail Bernie's plans from his website.

Of course, many FOH either refuse to so much as glance at those detail-heavy threads or deny that all of those detailed plans are readily found on his site at https://berniesanders.com/issues/

Here's what's on the clickable list that leads to the detail on that aspect of his plans.

TIME TO MAKE COLLEGE TUITION FREE AND DEBT FREE

GETTING BIG MONEY OUT OF POLITICS

CREATING DECENT PAYING JOBS

A LIVING WAGE

CLIMATE CHANGE & ENVIRONMENT
RACIAL JUSTICE

A FAIR AND HUMANE IMMIGRATION POLICY

FIGHTING FOR WOMEN’S RIGHTS

FIGHTING FOR LGBT EQUALITY

CARING FOR OUR VETERANS

STRENGTHEN AND EXPAND SOCIAL SECURITY

FIGHTING TO LOWER PRESCRIPTION DRUG PRICES

REFORMING WALL STREET

REAL FAMILY VALUES

WAR AND PEACE

WAR SHOULD BE THE LAST OPTION: WHY I SUPPORT THE IRAN DEAL

[nc4bo]

3. Bernie "Still Not Good Enough" Sanders. nt

[lewebley3]

122. Hillary is the best way, she will unite the country

[Fawke Em]

126. I thought Hillary fans trust the polls.

The polls don't show that, at all.

[lewebley3]

147. No, we trust Hillary and Dem party, which is all there is!

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[SammyWinstonJack]

169. There is....

[jeff47]

127. :rofl:

The person despised by the Republicans more than Satan and can't even unite the Democratic party will unite the country.

[nc4bo]

144. Heeeeeh

I guess it depends on uniting who? Be careful what you wish for.

We all have our own sets of concerns.

[lewebley3]

146. No, Bernie's supporters have only their concerns

[nc4bo]

149. Naw......all 3 camps have concerns. Even the 'cons. Why bothering polling

If there were none? Why is that ya think?

Here are my choices.

1. Sanders
2. O'Malley
3. Clinton

[beam me up scottie]

4. Outstanding research, pinstikfartherin!

Thank you!

[Buzz Clik]

135. ... except Bernie's name isn't on all those bills. WTF?

[nc4bo]

153. Click on the cosponsor tab. nt

[Martin Eden]

5. Excellent -- we won't see Hillary supporters using THAT false meme again!

(if we close our eyes)

[pinstikfartherin]

6. +1 nt

[HerbChestnut]

13. Oh don't worry, it'll pop back up in no time.

(Not sure if you were being sarcastic)

[Martin Eden]

14. We won't see it ...

(if we close our eyes)

[WillyT]

7. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!

[FlatBaroque]

8. I count no PoC on the pages of congress.gov

[Bubzer]

128. Is that suppose to mean he's done nothing for them? Congress.gov is a resource like any other.

It can be tough to sift through, especially considering all the work he's done, but you can find actions there supporting PoC. In the meantime, here's some additional supporting evidence from another source. It includes all the following social justice acts;

1. Raising Money For Korean Orphans
2. Being Arrested For Desegregation
3. Marching In March On Washington
4. Calling For Full Gay Equality
5. Standing Up For Victims Of U.S. Imperialism In Latin America
6. Condemned And Opposed Welfare Reform and Dog Whistle Politics
7. Vocally Condemned and Opposed Death Penalty and Prisons His Entire Political Career
8. Voted Against Cutting Off Prisoners From Federal Education Funds
9. Took IMF To Task For Oppressing Developing World Workers
11. Voted Against the PATRIOT Act (which Hillary voted for)
12. Opposed Both Iraq Wars on Moral Grounds (which Hillary voted for)
13. Traveled to Costa Rica to Defend Exploited Workers
14. Endorsed Jesse Jackson, Spoke Up For Palestinians
15. Strongly Condemned Police Violence Over the Past Year
16. Embraced Immigrants When Hillary Clinton Refused To Talk To Them
17. Defended Voting Rights Against Voter Suppression Efforts
18. Fought Against Employment Discrimination
19. Called For End to War On Drugs, For-Profit Prisons and Migrant Detention Quotas
20. Put Out Detailed Plan to End Economic Crisis in Minority Communities

Details for each of those can be found at the link below:
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/20-examples-bernie-sanders-powerful-record-civil-and-human-rights-1950s

[Scuba]

9. Well, yeah but where's his bill on making flag burning a crime, huh? Some patriot he is.

[PatrickforO]

77. Yeah and what about his American flag

lapel pin???

How can anyone be prez without one of those babies?

[pa28]

10. Not good enough Bernie!11!

K&R

[Mike__M]

11. If Bernie was such a great candidate

you wouldn't have to keep rubbing these issues in peoples' faces.

[ejbr]

107. Actually

a Hillary supporter asked for this list of specifics. Maybe not the snark, but definitely the list.

[Bubzer]

131. Sort of like if Hillary was so trusted, her supporters wouldn't need to keep claiming it to be true.

[NuclearDem]

12. I don't think you understand what a policy proposal is.

O'Malley implemented major changes for veterans and military families in Maryland, and has the most comprehensive veterans policy of all the candidates.

Is there some reason we can't expect the same of Sanders?

[pinstikfartherin]

40. No reason not to expect details...

I have many things that I went more details on from Bernie, and I'm certainly not here to argue against that like other people might. My point simply is that many of these links are to current legislation that he drafted this year and provide some of the details people complain about regularly around here. How is he going to pay for college or how will the transaction tax work? Well, here's the legislation. How will he implement increasing the minimum wage over the next few years? Well, here's the legislation. Some of it people can find if they simply look instead of us all arguing on DU and not bothering to really look into the other candidates.

I like O'Malley, BTW. He has definitely impressed me with his proposals, and I'm glad you guys post his proposals regularly. He's the most comprehensive with all of his policies by far, I'd say. I'd be pretty happy if he were the frontrunner, and it'd make me rethink my primary vote.

[VanillaRhapsody]

85. How?????

The Republicans dont just roll over...

[tex-wyo-dem]

124. If the Repub tactic remains...

"Oppose everything the Dems try to get done" as they did with Obama, then I don't care who the Dem POTUS is, it's going to be the same problem. I would suggest, however, that Hillary would have a tougher time than Bernie in that she is generally hated by the RW, who's constituents will cheer every time the repub controlled congress stops her agenda in its tracks.

Btw...Bernie's political revolution that he speaks of often, addresses this directly. It's a call for people by the millions to get involved and stay involved in politics, apply the pressure to their elected representatives to get things done that benefit the vast majority of us. If you remember, Obama used the same idea in 2008, but it quickly fizzled after he entered office. Bernie has made it very clear that creation of this people's political revolution is one of the main goals of his campaign, that even if he doesn't win, it will become a significant force to fix the way government responds to the will of the people.

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

164. Like I have said before.

Now is the time for a real progressive populist movement, but the message needs to be clear and not overly complex and it needs to be repeated over and over to drive it home into the minds of the people.

Then Bernie will win.

[daybranch]

166. Okay then

Bernie stands for democracy , Hillary stands for negotiation with her 1 percent donors, billionaires, bankers etc. Clear and not overly complex. Or all democrats stand for social justice , but only one candidate is willing to say their name and fight for economic justice.

[tex-wyo-dem]

182. +1000!

[VanillaRhapsody]

172. Except Obama DID get the job done

Spectacularly in spite of their best effort....he was crafty and has....perserverance I told many right here on DU not to underestimate him.....they were also wrong about what he ended up doing.


Is Sanders a cagey fighter? Nope....but SHE IS....and THAT is how you get it done

[tex-wyo-dem]

183. Oh, I agree wrt Obama....

He played the long game and completely outmaneuvered and outsmarted the repugs on many things. To this day, however, I find it strange that some of Obama's policies seem to be in direct contradiction to other policy that he supports or says he supports. In any case, Obama and the team around him is very very smart for political strategy.

I'm not convinced Hillary would be that smart and is every bit, if not more, of a decisive figure as Obama wrt the RW.

Sanders not a "cagey fighter"? I completely disagree. His advantage is that he has the enthusiastic support of millions of regular people. He doesn't mince words...where he stands and his opinions are right there in black and white. He fights for us, and we'll fight for him...and that is he very essence of his political revolution.

[Plucketeer]

150. Damn!

Those pesky bugs! You brush them away and you brush them away and.... Note to self: have one of my handlers find a new dry cleaning service! Maybe I should hire Tom DeLay.

[-none]

180. +1000

[ish of the hammer]

171. They have already shown what they will do to ANY

elected dem. I'd rather it was someone who most reflects my views - and that's Sanders.

Hillary: Making sure women get a bigger piece of the middle-class pie that her neoliberal, DLC, pro-Wall Street, pro-Pentagon, pro-TPP, Republican-lite economic policies are designed to shrink. - expatjouro

[BainsBane]

15. All of which have gone nowhere

Additionally, legislation is not the same as policy advanced by a president. That he hasn't developed detailed policy positions but instead points to this legislation makes me wonder if he has intended to stay in the Senate all along.

I also consider it an irresponsible use of taxpayer resources to devote the time and resources of Senate staff into writing and introducing legislation he knows has no chance of making it out of committee let alone passing. Much of those were introduced this year, which serves his campaign but not the people of the country, who have a right to expect our Senators to use taxpayer resources to develop policies that can get passed to improve people's lives rather than serve the political interests of his presidential campaign. The law does in fact prohibit the use of taxpayer money for campaign purposes, and it seems to me that is what he is doing by introducing showboat legislation.

I do not fall in the camp of those who despise government and prefer it not function. I understand many do, and they are not at all concerned with what a president or representative does but rather seek someone who will validate their anger. I won't be voting for government shutdown and gridlock. The Tea Party does enough of that already. There are people across this country that need government to function in order to get by. For them, legislation that will never advance does them no good. Their concerns are about daily survival, not having their anger validated. While we might all wish for a world in which bills like the ones above could be passed, that is not the nature of the US congress and it won't be anytime soon. Reckless disregard for that fact helps no one who depends on government, as much as it might provide for convenient talking points.

[RoccoR5955]

28. That does not mean that you give in to the opposition.

You have to aim high, and compromise from there, not meeting the opposition "half way," but more on your side, if they want anything. This is what RepubliCONs have been doing, it is what Democrats MUST do.

[BainsBane]

42. As I said, I do not believe in shutting govt down

Tough negotiation is key, but Bernie has displayed no ability to do that. He has never gotten a single piece of reform legislation through in over 30 yrs in congress. I see no reason that would miraculously change if he became president, particularly given the fact he doesn't appear to have many allies in congress.

[Armstead]

46. It aint Sanders fault that most of Congress is bought and paid for

They tend to go for the politically expedient and placating their big money donors and their lobbyists over doing the right thing.

If they weren't so fucking corrupt and/or cowardly they could done a loty of things they have chosen not to do over the years.

That aint Sanders fault.

[SunSeeker]

66. Obama was able to get a lot done with that "bought and paid for congress."

Hillary pushed through CHIP with Ted Kennedy, which gave medical coverage to 8 million poor children.

If you are savvy and you know how to work with people, you can get things done. Bernie has demonstrated he can't get things done.

[bvar22]

140. Obama passed the Insurance Profit Ptorection Act...

..under Reconciliation with zero Republican votes.

[SunSeeker]

143. The ACA saved my brother's life.

And it was not Obama's only accomplishment by any means. He saved the auto industry, he repealed DADT, he passed Lilly Ledbetter, to name a few. And he did it with a hostile GOP and jittery conservadems. It was amazing he was able to get anything done, let alone saving our country from another great depression.

[bvar22]

145. Saved the Auto Execs with a bailout while demanding extreme concessions from LABOR.

New Plants will be NON-UNION, and the workers there make less than 1/2 the starting wage at a Union plant.
Look it up.

[SunSeeker]

152. The auto bailout saved the UAW.

Look it up.

[bvar22]

154. Do you have the first clue about the concessions DEMANDED from LABOR

before any "bailout" was delivered?


Do you remember the split it caused because the Banks got their Bailout with NO concessions.

The UAW bought themselves a little time by making these concessions.
New Hires are paid less than 1/2 of what their counterparts make...and this WILL phase out as more are forced into early retirement.
Non-Union Plants were not the only concession, just one of the BIGGEST.

As background, unions made significant concessions in the years prior to and during the bailout to restore the auto manufacturers to profitability. Eye care coverage and dental coverage were lost and significant wage reductions were conceded as well, "including lower wages for new hires who now make about half the $29 that longtime union workers make." (As of last year, the wages of new hires were increased to $17 an hour.)

Instead of guaranteed annual raises, the unions now get profit sharing, which means they get nothing in unprofitable and lean years. An infamously unproductive job bank was eliminated, where laid off workers sat getting paid for doing nothing often for months at a time until work picked up again. Cost of living adjustments were suspended and overtime no longer paid until workers worked over 40 hours. Pensions were eliminated and replaced by 401(k)'s for new hires. Strikes were banned at GM and Chrysler under the terms of the government bailout.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marvin-meadors/did-president-obama-hand-_b_1317910.html

Union Busting in progress.

BTW: It was the Heritage Foundation that started that meme that Obama saved the UAW.
What Concessions did "management" or "investors" have to make in order to get their money?

The Wall Street Bankers did not have to give up ANYTHING for their Billions.
Can you smell the awful stink of a double standard?
I can,
but then, I work for a living.

[SunSeeker]

165. UAW members kept their jobs and their pensions.

They would have lost both if the auto industry had been allowed to go bankrupt and liquidate its assets.

And didn't Bernie vote for this deal? I don't recall him having a better plan.

[bvar22]

170. You avoided the question:

What concessions did the "investors" and "management" make in order to stay afloat?
The obnoxious STINK of the double Standard is what bothers me the most,
AND is the foundation for my original claim that Saving the Auto Industry (unlike Wall Street) was done on the backs of the workers.
SO, please go ahead and list all the concessions made by Investors and Management.



The Devil is in the Details.....and who pays the bill.

[SunSeeker]

177. No you avoided the question. Sanders voted for this because he had no alternative plan.

Yes, the devil is in the details. When it comes to figuring out who will pay is when Sander ' s great ideas fall apart. Ask the single payer activists Sanders left twisting in the wind in Vermont.

[RoccoR5955]

100. Okay, on that point

What reform did Clinton get passed when she was in the Senate?
I do not believe that Bernie does not have many allies in Congress. He caucuses with the Democrats, and is the minority leader of the Veterans' committee. He must have some allies if he has this leadership position, don't you think?

[Qutzupalotl]

123. They call Sanders "the amendment king"

precisely because he works so often with other members on both sides of the aisle to improve legislation.

[Bubzer]

137. Exactly!

[Bubzer]

136. 30 years of no reform legislation would be damning...were it true. But its not.

Here's a non-comprehensive list of what you're calling non-reform-based legislation:

-Corporate Crime Accountability (February 1995)

-Saving Money, for Colleges and Taxpayers (April 1998)

-Holding IRS Accountable, Protecting Pensions (July 2002)

-Expanding Free Health Care (November 2001)

-Getting Tough On Child Labor (July 2001)

-Increasing Funding for Heating for the Poor (September 2004)

-Fighting Corporate Welfare and Protecting Against Nuclear Disasters (June 2005)

-Greening the U.S. Government (June 2007)

-Protecting Our Troops (October 2007)

-Restricting the Bailout to Protect U.S. Workers (February 2009)

-Helping Veterans' Kids (July 2009)

-Exposing Corruption in the Military-Industrial Complex (November 2012)

-Support for Treating Autism in Military Health Care

You can read the details for each at the link down below.

Sanders was an amendment king who was able to bring bipartisan coalitions together to make serious changes to laws, he also knew how to be a thorn in the side of the establishment until it offered up something in return. Sanders was able to get the first-ever audit of funds given out by the Federal Reserve, which made transparent over $2 trillion of funds handed out by the secretive organization. This was a cause that Republican congressman Ron Paul (TX) had been pursuing for decades, but Sanders was able to get the votes to do it by forging a compromise that required an audit for the bailout period alone.

When the Affordable Care Act was in danger of not having the votes to pass, Sanders used his leverage to win enough funding for free health treatment for 10 million Americans through Community Health Centers. This gutsy move—holding out until the funds were put into the bill—has even Republican members of Congress requesting the funds, which have helped millions of Americans who otherwise would not have access.

Another moment came when Sanders, who was then chair of the Veterans committee, worked with Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), to overhaul the Veterans Administration. McCain praised Sanders' work on the bill in an interview with National Journal. Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI) even went so far as to say the bill would never have passed without Sanders' ability to bring the parties to a deal.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-gets-it-done-sanders-record-pushing-through-major-reforms-will-surprise-you

I suppose if you don't care about people, then sure, none of that is reform legislation.

[sorechasm]

179. Thank you Bubzer (and pinstikfartherin) for these great lists

These are very helpful.

[Bubzer]

181. Glad to be of service!

[n8dogg83]

160. See the link below. With all due respect, Google is your friend.

Link to article


Just some of the things he has gotten passed or amendments to legislation he put in that have been passed through congress include:


Corporate Crime Accountability (February 1995): A Sanders amendment to the Victims Justice Act of 1995 required “offenders who are convicted of fraud and other white-collar crimes to give notice to victims and other persons in cases where there are multiple victims eligible to receive restitution.”


•Saving Money, for Colleges and Taxpayers (April 1998): In an amendment to H.R. 6, the Higher Education Amendments of 1998, Sanders made a change to the law that allowed the Fund for the Improvement of Postsecondary Education to make competitive grants available to colleges and universities that cooperated to reduce costs through joint purchases of goods and services.


•Holding IRS Accountable, Protecting Pensions (July 2002): Sanders' amendment to the Treasury and General Government Appropriations Act of 2003 stopped the IRS from being able to use funds that “violate current pension age discrimination laws.” Although he faced stiff GOP opposition, his amendment still succeeded along a 308 to 121 vote.


•Expanding Free Health Care (November 2001): You wouldn't think Republicans would agree to an expansion of funds for community health centers, which provide some free services. But Sanders was able to win a $100 million increase in funding with an amendment.


•Getting Tough On Child Labor (July 2001): A Sanders amendment to the general appropriations bill prohibited the importation of goods made with child labor.


•Increasing Funding for Heating for the Poor (September 2004): Sanders won a $22 million increase for the low-income home energy assistance program and related weatherization assistance program.


•Fighting Corporate Welfare and Protecting Against Nuclear Disasters (June 2005): A Sanders amendment brought together a bipartisan coalition that outnumbered a bipartisan coalition on the other side to successfully prohibit the Export-Import Bank from providing loans for nuclear projects in China.

And that was just while he was in the House. He also got a lot passed in the Senate.

[TommyCelt]

120. A thought from Abe (from the film LINCOLN)...

A compass, I learnt when I was surveying, it'll point you True North from where you are standing, but it's got no advice about the swamps and deserts and chasms you'll encounter along the way. If in pursuit of your destination you plunge ahead, heedless of obstacles, and achieve nothing more than to sink in a swamp, what's the use of knowing True North?

[RoccoR5955]

156. You use the compass

so that when you have to detour, you can STILL head in the correct direction, and not go backwards, as the third way crowd wants to go.

[wilsonbooks]

33. Ah but we always know where Hillary stands on issues don't we?

Or maybe it depends on which way the wind is blowing.

[BainsBane]

43. In the event you decide you are interested in issues

and her policy positions, you can read this. https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/

Or you can stick with the cable news approach to political discourse. Your call.

[wilsonbooks]

97. As a long time observer of politicians I have found that

it is much more useful to watch what they do rather than what they say they will do. And when a candidate has a history of doing whatever is politically expedient ,rather than being guided by a set of core principals, I put little value in their "policy positions".

[KingCharlemagne]

96. HRC was for torture before she was against it. - nt

[RoccoR5955]

118. I don't think so...

As a matter of fact, on the off chance that she is elected, I see her changing her views again, to favor the RepubliCONs view. But that's just me. Look at how Obama turned his back on all of us extreme liberals who went out on a limb to support him. I think it will be more of the same with Clinton. My hopes are all with Bernie, a good Socialist guy, originally from my home town of Brooklyn, NY. I also feel that Brooklyn deserves it's first President of the US.

[Hiraeth]

38. "All of which have gone nowhere" Pray tell, *how* is that Bernie's fault?

[BainsBane]

44. Who else's responsibility would it be?

He introduced the legislation without working with the opposition or in many cases even the minority leadership. Any successful legislation requires a majority vote. One person's views are not a law and in fact are meaningless when it comes to legislation. That is basic civics.

[Laser102]

93. All those years in congress and senate with nothing to show for it.

Not one endorsement from the senators he works with. I can't help but wonder if he's just good at pointing out problems, but not at fixing them. That's why we need Hillary. Worked well with senators of both parties to get bills passed.

[SmittynMo]

104. Nothing to show for it?

Did you ever wonder why? He's been an independent candidate his whole life, until recently. Previously, no one in politics liked an independent candidate. It goes against the status quo. It ruffles their fine feathers, and gives them headaches. Awwww.

Have you not heard about the political revolution? People are fed up with the last 40-50 years of the same old failed politics. Millions of people have said enough is enough. I'm one of them. I fear for the middle class being destroyed on a daily basis, and it's been going on for the past 20 years. Without a thriving middle class, we're all done. Oligarchy is among us, and if we do not do something to stop it, ALL OF US will pay, big time.

So for all you Hillary fans, you just keep on being snowed over by the status quo bullshit. How can you not see what is about to happen if Hillary is elected. It blows my mind.

[Bubzer]

139. Nothing to show for it? Might be true if you mean no corporate ties to show for it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251796674#post136

[Amimnoch]

185. EXACTLY! Someone who has the record of actually making progress!

Not just talking a good talk about it. Irony that the OP actually proves the point that they were trying to be snarky about.

[beerandjesus]

110. It's not even true. Bernie is unusually effective in the Senate.

But lies are (almost) all the Hillary camp has got.

[saturnsring]

158. so then the smart thing to do is take him from where he's "unusually effective" and put him as

potus -

[rhett o rick]

48. Currently government is working for the 1% and ignoring the 50 million Americans, mostly

minorities, living in poverty. The 1% doesn't care. The puppets of the 1% don't care. They may pretend to care but those that trust them are fools.

[Bernblu]

63. What has Hillary accomplished, besides giving 45 speeches promoting TPP?

[Dandilions]

82. your name gives away your perspective

bane... a cause of misery... cry me a few tears... we are talking about a movement here. we are talking about authoring legislation that you believe in.... the voting public looks at what you have stood for... what you have added to the political conversation... the exchange of ideas....it's about understanding what is needed to fix the situation we find ourselves in.... our democracy is in crisis because of an economic system which is far out of balance... re read your post.. it is dripping with misery and hopelessness... because you are paralyzed to inaction...try not to spread this misery... try not to encourage the cessation of thought.... it's time to think folks... think now

[beerandjesus]

109. Way to repeat another Bernie lie--which only passes here because it's not the "racism" thing

Bernie is actually known for being one of the most effective Senators out there. I didn't review every link above, but to pretend he's been sitting on his ass for the last decade is just another (YET ANOTHER) slander.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-gets-it-done-sanders-record-pushing-through-major-reforms-will-surprise-you


Wait, it's Alternet, a liberal source.... are you going to attack the author of the article? That's what we usually see here.

[grahamhgreen]

175. So, if the Republicans are against it, then don't do it, lol! Very funny, BB!

[Hepburn]

16. Outstanding! KNR

Thank you for your research!

[drray23]

17. that is not a policy proposal

It is a list of past legislative actions he took. Good to read and learn about it but a policy document defines how he would plan to tackle specific issues. Every candidate does that and its something I expect of them.

Trying to puzzle out how Bernie will solve particular issues in details based on his past legislative record is not it.

The least one should expect of a candidate for the presidency is have a clear plan with detailed white papers for each important policy. Its true for all candidates not just Bernie. The other two however have started putting out such documents on their websites.

[Hepburn]

19. It's frightening to puzzle out how Hillary would solve particular issues...

...may I direct you to her vote in favor of the Iraqi invasion.

[drray23]

20. may be so but her positions are spelled out on her website

At least you know what you are buying so to speak. Whether one agrees with her policies or not, they are plain to see.

[Hepburn]

21. LOL, and you think that this sudden turn to the left is gonna last?

I gotta bridge.

[drray23]

22. one can always hope.

At the end of the day, do you really think any politician would not change their positions ? even Bernie ?

There is a world of difference between campaigning, being a senator or being the president having to make a choice between a bad and a worst choice for which you will be criticized anyway. The world is not black and white.

[Hepburn]

23. Hillary changes her positions, IMO, like most of us change our underwear.

She's for it...no, she's against it...wait...she's thinking about it. Repeat daily.

My opinion: I simply do not believe what she says because I find her to be an opportunist. Right now, she is pretending to be a progressive. She is on her record anything but this.

I simply do not find her to be trustworthy and I find her to be corporate owned and obligated. That, to me, is what her positions are: She is one of the 1% and she likes it that way.

JMHO

[passiveporcupine]

32. I plead guilty

[passiveporcupine]

35. Here is the same statement with some context

which is pretty funny when you consider her accusations of Bernie accusing her of shouting...but all he was doing was saying the same thing she is saying in this clip.

[riderinthestorm]

29. Gosh, HRC even had to evolve on whether to torture or not

 October 2006, Clinton spoke about exceptions to a no-torture policy when speaking to the New York Daily News.Clinton mentioned a "ticking time bomb" scenario in which a captured terrorist has knowledge of an imminent terror attack and interrogators want to use torture.

"In the event we were ever confronted with having to interrogate a detainee with knowledge of an imminent threat to millions of Americans, then the decision to depart from standard international practices must be made by the president, and the president must be held accountable," she said. "That very, very narrow exception within very, very limited circumstances is better than blasting a big hole in our entire law."

Then, on Sept. 26, 2007, Clinton said something different. During a debate, Tim Russert asked her about the ticking bomb scenario and here's what she said: "As a matter of policy, it cannot be American policy, period." She said she met with military generals who told her there is "very little evidence that it works."

In the days after the debate, the Republican National Committee criticized her for flip-flopping, and Obama said he would oppose torture "without exception or equivocation," according to Daily News reports.

Did Clinton change position because of her talks with the generals or because of the "politics of the moment"? We can't see inside Clinton's head, so our ruling doesn't reflect on that part of the statement. But it is clear she changed her mind about the "ticking bomb" scenario. So we rate Obama's claim True.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/feb/01/barack-obama/clinton-changed-on-torture/

Sorry but having to test the winds on torture is pretty despicable.

[RoccoR5955]

30. So you are part of the "Hope and Change" crowd.

How has that worked out for the past 7 or so years?
People have more respect for someone who has views, and sticks to them. Even conservatives!

[rhett o rick]

49. She only has a bunch of rhetoric. Does she support fracking or not? Depends. Does she support the

TPP or not? Depends. Does she support continued war and support the MIC? Yes, hell yes. Does she want to help our debt burdened college students. Sure she want's the lazy kids to get a job. How about DOMA. Supported it now doesn't. Is close to the Bush family who are grateful for her help in their war for oil.

[Eric J in MN]

26. For which issue would you want to know more about his plans? NT

NT

[procon]

27. This remains a big sticking point for me too.

Just claiming past efforts is not the same as making concrete policies describing how he intends to make all those things he likes to talk about, his actual presidential platform. Put the details together so potential voters can review what he is planning to do if elected, and more importantly, let us see how he is going to realistically implement his policies given the likely political climate.

[blackspade]

117. You do realize that the 114th Congress is not 'past 'efforts'.....

That is the current Congressional session.

[PatrickforO]

78. You mean like this?

AS PRESIDENT, SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS WILL REDUCE INCOME AND WEALTH INEQUALITY BY:

Demanding that the wealthy and large corporations pay their fair share in taxes. As president, Sen. Sanders will stop corporations from shifting their profits and jobs overseas to avoid paying U.S. income taxes. He will create a progressive estate tax on the top 0.3 percent of Americans who inherit more than $3.5 million. He will also enact a tax on Wall Street speculators who caused millions of Americans to lose their jobs, homes, and life savings.

Increasing the federal minimum wage from $7.25 to $15 an hour by 2020. In the year 2015, no one who works 40 hours a week should be living in poverty.

Putting at least 13 million Americans to work by investing $1 trillion over five years towards rebuilding our crumbling roads, bridges, railways, airports, public transit systems, ports, dams, wastewater plants, and other infrastructure needs.
Reversing trade policies like NAFTA, CAFTA, and PNTR with China that have driven down wages and caused the loss of millions of jobs. If corporate America wants us to buy their products they need to manufacture those products in this country, not in China or other low-wage countries.

Creating 1 million jobs for disadvantaged young Americans by investing $5.5 billion in a youth jobs program. Today, the youth unemployment rate is off the charts. We have got to end this tragedy by making sure teenagers and young adults have the jobs they need to move up the economic ladder.

Fighting for pay equity by signing the Paycheck Fairness Act into law. It is an outrage that women earn just 78 cents for every dollar a man earns.

Making tuition free at public colleges and universities throughout America. Everyone in this country who studies hard should be able to go to college regardless of income.

Expanding Social Security by lifting the cap on taxable income above $250,000. At a time when the senior poverty rate is going up, we have got to make sure that every American can retire with dignity and respect.

Guaranteeing healthcare as a right of citizenship by enacting a Medicare for all single-payer healthcare system. It’s time for the U.S. to join every major industrialized country on earth and provide universal healthcare to all.

Requiring employers to provide at least 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave; two weeks of paid vacation; and 7 days of paid sick days. Real family values are about making sure that parents have the time they need to bond with their babies and take care of their children and relatives when they get ill.

Enacting a universal childcare and prekindergarten program. Every psychologist understands that the most formative years for a human being is from the ages 0-3. We have got to make sure every family in America has the opportunity to send their kids to a high quality childcare and pre-K program.

Making it easier for workers to join unions by fighting for the Employee Free Choice Act. One of the most significant reasons for the 40-year decline in the middle class is that the rights of workers to collectively bargain for better wages and benefits have been severely undermined.

Breaking up huge financial institutions so that they are no longer too big to fail. Seven years ago, the taxpayers of this country bailed out Wall Street because they were too big to fail. Yet, 3 out of the 4 largest financial institutions are 80 percent bigger today than before we bailed them out. Sen. Sanders has introduced legislation to break these banks up. As president, he will fight to sign this legislation into law.

[pinstikfartherin]

84. No, that's not a REAL plan. That's a wish list.

Because how is he going to DO it? (Do I really need to state sarcasm?)

Proposals and ideas are all any of them actually have. We could take the details of his tuition plan or infrastructure plan from his legislation, but those don't count apparently even though they give us details that we can debate. Details that apply to the proposals you posted. Details we can use when debating each candidate's idea for higher education reform or whatever else.

This place is so damn silly sometimes.

[cui bono]

18. Not Enough, Bernie!!!

[Fearless]

24. Kick!

[MisterP]

25. yeah, the foot soldiers are fighting a Lernean Hydra: the moment they said Sanders

loathed Black people, dozens of decades-old CSPAN videos of him addressing exactly what the critics said he'd been studiously ignoring for decades were posted by thousands of people

ditto the "He-Man Woman-Haters' Club" accusations--again the gap between the two candidates was made sharply and definitively clear

good thing both of them are right-handed or they'd pick on that, too

[AzDar]

31. K & R

[woz75]

34. Feel that Bern

Bernie's post office idea is brilliant in my opinion....You'd have to be poor or remember what it's like being poor to appreciate it

[gordyfl]

36. Bernie Sanders - "The Amendment King"

(From 2005) Sanders is the Amendment King of the current House of Representative.

Since the Republicans took over Congress in 1995, no other lawmaker – not Tom DeLay, not Nancy Pelosi – has passed more roll-call amendments (amendments that actually went to a vote on the floor) than Bernie Sanders.

He accomplishes this on the one hand by being relentlessly active, and on the other by using his status as an Independent to form left-right coalitions.

Here are a few examples of the amendments Sanders passed by building unusual but effective coalitions:

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-gets-it-done-sanders-record-pushing-through-major-reforms-will-surprise-you

[ljm2002]

129. Thank you...

...and welcome to DU!

[SoapBox]

37. Super Duper K & R!

Go Bernie!

Go Berners!

[Fairgo]

39. Drops Mic,

walks off stage to thunderous applause!

[Sheepshank]

41. You provided a list of Sanders spinning his wheels and getting nothing done

I hope you didn't go to too much work...why not provide a lit of bills passed into law?

[MrMickeysMom]

45. Here's the homework, folks.... K&R

Folk?

HRC supporters?

Beuller?

Hey, where are they? Didn't I just read something to indicate an empty platform of how to address the most important issues?

Well... maybe they have you on ignore, too, pinstikfartherin

[pinstikfartherin]

47. Nah...

They're too busy missing or ignoring the point, which is that you can find these details many are asking for if they actually look because it's in his legislation. Instead of addressing that point, they argue that none of it's been passed. M'kay. So no comment then, I guess? We're avoiding the real issues, which we could be discussing, and that's the real purpose of my OP.

Apparently, I need to list the bills of his that have passed...so I list the ones Hillary passed too, I guess? Yep, that's a wash.

Also, we shouldn't introduce legislation that has no chance of passing...so we basically should rarely introduce bills because let's look at the facts: last year 8,913 bills were introduced and only 282 became law.

This whole thing is just damn silly. Let's grab a policy detail (like how we plan to raise the minimum wage, pay for college, or address immigration) and discuss THAT. I shouldn't have to post something sarcastic like this, but that's DU these days!

[MrMickeysMom]

89. You're welcome ...

... for kicking this post in advance...

[artislife]

50. Kick.

[elleng]

51. Legislation is great.

Plans to accomplish progressive programs, as well as history and experience implementing them, are better.

15 Goals to Rebuild the American Dream
https://martinomalley.com/category/15-goals/

Addiction treatment and prevention
https://martinomalley.com/policy/addiction-treatment-and-prevention/

Criminal Justice Reform
https://martinomalley.com/policy/criminal-justice/

Making College Debt Free for all Americans
https://martinomalley.com/policy/make-college-debt-free/

Holding Wall Street Accountable
https://14d2r744okfe40r1ug1oqm6y-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/OMalley-Wall-Street-Reform.pdf

Expanding Social Security
https://martinomalley.com/the-latest/expanding-social-security/

Homeland Security
https://martinomalley.com/vision/homeland-security/

Immigration
https://martinomalley.com/the-latest/immigration/

National Service
https://martinomalley.com/national-service/

Environment
https://martinomalley.com/climate/iowa/
https://martinomalley.com/climate/
https://martinomalley.com/climate/agenda/

Foreign Policy
https://martinomalley.com/policy/truman-national-security/

Gun Reform
https://martinomalley.com/policy/preventing-and-reducing-gun-violence/

Trade Policy
https://martinomalley.com/policy/trade-policy/

Campaign Finance Reform (Restoring our American Democracy)
https://martinomalley.com/the-latest/restoring-our-american-democracy/

Why We Need a Constitutional Amendment to Secure the Right to Vote:
https://martinomalley.com/the-latest/news/right-to-vote/

Veterans and Military Families
https://martinomalley.com/policy/veterans/

Martin O'Malley:

1. Ended death penalty in Maryland
2. Prevented fracking in Maryland and put regulations in the way to prevent next GOP Gov Hogan fom easily allowing fracking.
3. Provided health insurance for 380,000
4. Reduced infant mortality to an all time low.
5. Provided meals to thousands of hungry children and moved toward a goal for eradicating childhood hunger.
6. Enacted a $10.10 living wage and a $11. minimum wage for State workers.
7. Supporter the Dream Act
8. Cut income taxes for 86% of Marylanders (raised taxes on the rich).
9. Reformed Maryland’s tax code to make it more progressive.
10. Enacted some of the nation’s most comprehensive reforms to protect homeowners from foreclosure.

Mother Jones magazine called him the best candidate on environmental issues.
Article here:
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/12/martin-omalley-longshot-presidential-candidate-and-real-climate-hawk

[pinstikfartherin]

54. I really like O'Malley.

He has the most detailed proposals, and I would be pretty happy if he was the frontrunner. I wish he was polling better.

[elleng]

55. I'm glad you like him.

At this point, imo, polls mean little, except they take up a lot of space/air in the msm (AND here at DU!)

“If you looked back historically, where was Bill Clinton at this time in his race? Nowhere,” Carl said. “Where was Jimmy Carter? Nowhere.”

http://www.mystatesman.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/martin-omalley-brings-his-long-shot-presidential-b/npLbM/?icmp=statesman_internallink_referralbox_free-to-premium-referral

[Kalidurga]

76. I wish it was O'Malley and Sanders that were the front runners

I could go and vote for my favorite and not even be disappointed if he lost.

[jeff47]

130. The point of a plan is to create legislation. (nt)

[NanceGreggs]

52. You DO understand the difference ...

... between bills sponsored as a senator and detailed plans as to how he proposes to implement his ideas as president?

Then again, it appears you don't understand the difference.

[senz]

56. Bernie on Income and Wealth Inequality

As president, Senator Bernie Sanders will reduce income and wealth inequality by:

Demanding that the wealthy and large corporations pay their fair share in taxes. As president, Sen. Sanders will stop corporations from shifting their profits and jobs overseas to avoid paying U.S. income taxes. He will create a progressive estate tax on the top 0.3 percent of Americans who inherit more than $3.5 million. He will also enact a tax on Wall Street speculators who caused millions of Americans to lose their jobs, homes, and life savings.

Increasing the federal minimum wage from $7.25 to $15 an hour by 2020. In the year 2015, no one who works 40 hours a week should be living in poverty.

Putting at least 13 million Americans to work by investing $1 trillion over five years towards rebuilding our crumbling roads, bridges, railways, airports, public transit systems, ports, dams, wastewater plants, and other infrastructure needs.

Reversing trade policies like NAFTA, CAFTA, and PNTR with China that have driven down wages and caused the loss of millions of jobs. If corporate America wants us to buy their products they need to manufacture those products in this country, not in China or other low-wage countries.

Creating 1 million jobs for disadvantaged young Americans by investing $5.5 billion in a youth jobs program. Today, the youth unemployment rate is off the charts. We have got to end this tragedy by making sure teenagers and young adults have the jobs they need to move up the economic ladder.

Fighting for pay equity by signing the Paycheck Fairness Act into law. It is an outrage that women earn just 78 cents for every dollar a man earns.

Making tuition free at public colleges and universities throughout America. Everyone in this country who studies hard should be able to go to college regardless of income.

Expanding Social Security by lifting the cap on taxable income above $250,000. At a time when the senior poverty rate is going up, we have got to make sure that every American can retire with dignity and respect.

Guaranteeing healthcare as a right of citizenship by enacting a Medicare for all single-payer healthcare system. It’s time for the U.S. to join every major industrialized country on earth and provide universal healthcare to all.

Requiring employers to provide at least 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave; two weeks of paid vacation; and 7 days of paid sick days. Real family values are about making sure that parents have the time they need to bond with their babies and take care of their children and relatives when they get ill.

Enacting a universal childcare and prekindergarten program. Every psychologist understands that the most formative years for a human being is from the ages 0-3. We have got to make sure every family in America has the opportunity to send their kids to a high quality childcare and pre-K program.

Making it easier for workers to join unions by fighting for the Employee Free Choice Act. One of the most significant reasons for the 40-year decline in the middle class is that the rights of workers to collectively bargain for better wages and benefits have been severely undermined.

Breaking up huge financial institutions so that they are no longer too big to fail. Seven years ago, the taxpayers of this country bailed out Wall Street because they were too big to fail. Yet, 3 out of the 4 largest financial institutions are 80 percent bigger today than before we bailed them out. Sen. Sanders has introduced legislation to break these banks up. As president, he will fight to sign this legislation into law.

https://berniesanders.com/issues/income-and-wealth-inequality/

[NanceGreggs]

57. This is his wish list ...

... and it's impressive.

How does he plan to actually DO what he says he wants done?

[senz]

59. It's a fucking PLAN.

[NanceGreggs]

60. No, actually it's not. n/t

[Bernblu]

65. And what exactly has Hillary accomplished except doing more flip flops that Mitt Romney?

[pinebox]

64. Feel like you're talking with a refrigerator yet?

[senz]

80. lol, yes some folks do take on those characteristics

I wanted to do something a little extra for Bernie anyway, since I haven't been able to do much volunteering lately -- but am hoping that will change.

You do a fantastic job here at DU, pinebox. We're lucky to have you on our side. If we each do whatever we can, maybe we can get this good person elected to the presidency and make a real difference for the country.

[pinebox]

105. Thanks

I know the other side hates me with a passion but hey, I have passion too and I don't want any more of the same old same old in the WHite House. We've enabled it to happen for decades and as a result, people in this country are really suffering.
It's sad that so many on here think "it's about putting a woman in the White House". No, it's not, it's about empathy!

[senz]

159. What an interesting way to put it.

I tend to go the conceptual route, thinking about fairness, equality, the importance of the individual, a just system that honors and serves all its citizens, and I think a lot about the "Founding Fathers" who are heroes of mine.

But of course, all of this has a common thread to it, and when you boil those noble concepts down to their emotional core, it is empathy. That is what we're talking about. It is also the core of the teachings of the Torah and of Jesus. Empathy underlies equality, fairness, humility, service. Empathy, if we ever get good at it, could change the human race.

Pinebox, I don't know how old you are, but you could take your deep understanding and formulate a life plan from it. It could inspire your choices, and you might end up making an important contribution to humankind, in some respect, even if it seems small at first. Joseph Campbell advised people to "follow your bliss." Makes excellent sense.

[pinstikfartherin]

73. Plans don't matter. How is he going to DO it?

I got that right, didn't I?

Propose detailed plans all you want! It's all wish lists at this point, but some around here don't like to accept that fact.

[senz]

81. As you've pointed out so beautifully, he's already done good things

in Congress and the Senate, and the on the issues page at his website has well defined plans, some quite detailed. https://berniesanders.com/issues/

They feel obligated to gripe. We'll just keep showing how great he is.

[pinstikfartherin]

83. Props to you for providing thoughtful responses...

I thought about it a couple of times but decided, eh...if they'd rather try some sarcastic "gotcha" instead of picking some details and debating everyone's "wish lists," go right ahead. No sense in wasting my time. I mean, we could use the details from Sanders' free college bill and compare it to other proposals or debate its merits, but all of that requires thoughtful posting, not quick hit pieces. Nevermind the fact that people have asked for details that you can find the answers to in his recently proposed legislation...

People are complaining about a lack of policy proposals, but all the candidates have plenty of positions and ideas. We have so much information we could debate! Blows my mind that posts like this one on a whim get the most traction.

[ljm2002]

138. Hillary's wish list...

Last edited Fri Nov 13, 2015, 12:33 AM - Edit history (1)

...is also impressive. But I ask you, How does she plan to actually DO what she says she wants done?

Here are some of the ways she proposes to reduce risks in the financial system (notably, this does not include restoring Glass-Steagall or something like it):

Impose a risk fee on the largest financial institutions.

Close the Volcker Rule’s hedge fund loophole.

Discourage excessive risk-taking by making senior bankers accountable. (me: by reducing their bonuses when their financial institutions suffer losses -- yeah, that'll larn 'em!)

Make sure no firm is ever too big and too risky to be managed effectively.

Tackle financial dangers of the “shadow banking” system.

Impose a tax on high-frequency trading. (me: a signature Bernie Sanders position BTW)

Now how, exactly, is she going to get any of this through the current Congress, or any Congress we are likely to see in the next few years? Don't hold back, let us know how Hillary would be able to do all of the above while Bernie would not be able to do the same with his policies.

Myself, I did not see any discussion on her Issues page of HOW she is going to shepherd these policies through a recalcitrant, Republican-led Congress. It's not a plan but merely a wish list -- at least, if we are going to use the same criteria for Hillary as for Bernie.

[senz]

58. Bernie on Making College Tuition Free and Debt Free

Here are the six steps that Bernie will take as President to make college debt free:


MAKE TUITION FREE AT PUBLIC COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES.

This is not a radical idea. Last year, Germany eliminated tuition because they believed that charging students $1,300 per year was discouraging Germans from going to college. Next year, Chile will do the same. Finland, Norway, Sweden and many other countries around the world also offer free college to all of their citizens. If other countries can take this action, so can the United States of America.

In fact, it’s what many of our colleges and universities used to do. The University of California system offered free tuition at its schools until the 1980s. In 1965, average tuition at a four-year public university was just $243 and many of the best colleges – including the City University of New York – did not charge any tuition at all. The Sanders plan would make tuition free at public colleges and universities throughout the country.

STOP THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FROM MAKING A PROFIT ON STUDENT LOANS.

Over the next decade, it has been estimated that the federal government will make a profit of over $110 billion on student loan programs. This is morally wrong and it is bad economics. As President, Sen. Sanders will prevent the federal government from profiteering on the backs of college students and use this money instead to significantly lower student loan interest rates.

SUBSTANTIALLY CUT STUDENT LOAN INTEREST RATES.

Under the Sanders plan, the formula for setting student loan interest rates would go back to where it was in 2006. If this plan were in effect today, interest rates on undergraduate loans would drop from 4.29% to just 2.37%.

ALLOW AMERICANS TO REFINANCE STUDENT LOANS AT TODAY’S LOW INTEREST RATES.

It makes no sense that you can get an auto loan today with an interest rate of 2.5%, but millions of college graduates are forced to pay interest rates of 5-7% or more for decades. Under the Sanders plan, Americans would be able to refinance their student loans at today’s low interest rates.

ALLOW STUDENTS TO USE NEED-BASED FINANCIAL AID AND WORK STUDY PROGRAMS TO MAKE COLLEGE DEBT FREE.

The Sanders plan would require public colleges and universities to meet 100% of the financial needs of the lowest-income students. Low-income students would be able to use federal, state and college financial aid to cover room and board, books and living expenses. And Sanders would more than triple the federal work study program to build valuable career experience that will help them after they graduate.

FULLY PAID FOR BY IMPOSING A TAX ON WALL STREET SPECULATORS.

The cost of this plan is fully paid for by imposing a tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street speculators who nearly destroyed the economy seven years ago. More than 1,000 economists have endorsed a tax on Wall Street speculation and today some 40 countries throughout the world have imposed a similar tax including Britain, Germany, France, Switzerland, and China. If the taxpayers of this country could bailout Wall Street in 2008, we can make public colleges and universities tuition free and debt free throughout the country.

https://berniesanders.com/issues/its-time-to-make-college-tuition-free-and-debt-free/

[senz]

61. Bernie on Achieving Racial Justice

Achieving Racial Justice

Addressing Physical Violence

We must demilitarize our police forces so they don’t look and act like invading armies.

We must invest in community policing. Only when we get officers into the communities, working within neighborhoods before trouble arises, do we develop the relationships necessary to make our communities safer together. Among other things, that means increasing civilian oversight of police departments.

We need police forces that reflect the diversity of our communities.

At the federal level we need to establish a new model police training program that reorients the way we do law enforcement in this country. With input from a broad segment of the community including activists and leaders from organizations like Black Lives Matter we will reinvent how we police America.

We need to federally fund and require body cameras for law enforcement officers to make it easier to hold them accountable.

Our Justice Department must aggressively investigate and prosecute police officers who break the law and hold them accountable for their actions.

We need to require police departments and states to provide public reports on all police shootings and deaths that take place while in police custody.

We need new rules on the allowable use of force. Police officers need to be trained to de-escalate confrontations and to humanely interact with people who have mental illnesses.

States and localities that make progress in this area should get more federal justice grant money. Those that do not should get their funding slashed.

We need to make sure the federal resources are there to crack down on the illegal activities of hate groups.

Addressing Political Violence

We need to re-enfranchise the more than two million African Americans who have had their right to vote taken away by a felony conviction.

Congress must restore the Voting Rights Act’s “pre-clearance” provision, which extended protections to minority voters in states where they were clearly needed.

We must expand the Act’s scope so that every American, regardless of skin color or national origin, is able to vote freely.

We need to make Election Day a federal holiday to increase voters’ ability to participate.

We must make early voting an option for voters who work or study and need the flexibility to vote on evenings or weekends.

We must make no-fault absentee ballots an option for all Americans.

Every American over 18 must be registered to vote automatically, so that students and working people can make their voices heard at the ballot box.

We must put an end to discriminatory laws and the purging of minority-community names from voting rolls.

We need to make sure that there are sufficient polling places and poll workers to prevent long lines from forming at the polls anywhere.

Addressing Legal Violence

We need to ban prisons for profit, which result in an over-incentive to arrest, jail and detain, in order to keep prison beds full.

We need to turn back from the failed “War on Drugs” and eliminate mandatory minimums which result in sentencing disparities between black and white people.

We need to invest in drug courts and medical and mental health interventions for people with substance abuse problems, so that they do not end up in prison, they end up in treatment.

We need to boost investments for programs that help people who have gone to jail rebuild their lives with education and job training.

We must abolish civil asset forfeiture programs which allow police departments to seize property from people who have not been convicted of a crime and profit off of such seizures.

Addressing Economic Violence

We need to give our children, regardless of their race or their income, a fair shot at attending college. That’s why all public universities should be made tuition free.

We must invest $5.5 billion in a federally-funded youth employment program to employ young people of color who face disproportionately high unemployment rates.

Knowing that black women earn 64 cents on the dollar compared to white men, we must pass federal legislation to establish pay equity for women.

We must prevent employers from discriminating against applicants based on criminal history.

We need to ensure access to quality affordable childcare for working families.

https://berniesanders.com/issues/racial-justice/

[NanceGreggs]

68. "We must."

We should. We ought to. We need to.

Where is the plan for actually DOING all of this?

Every time I have asked a BS supporter here how Bernie plans to implement all of his grand plans, I get the same reply: "Oh, well, he can't do it all by himself," followed by, "If a million people marched on D.C. and demanded action ...," or a lecture about how "he's on the People's side, so even if none of these things are accomplished, at least we know he tried."

The truth is that the only way a president can get things done is through compromise with the GOP - who won't magically disappear the day BS is inaugurated. And the minute the man compromised on anything in order to further his own agenda, his supporters would throw him under the bus so fast, his head would spin.

[senz]

79. There are plenty of imperative sentences in his proposals.

So don't be picking on sentence structure; just makes you look a tad picayune. And don't worry, Nance -- as soon Hillary's paid staff gets her proposals written up, she'll have something for you. Plus, she'll make a big deal out of every little element to maximize publicity and make it look like she thinks and cares about these things.

Bernie's had plenty of experience working both sides of the aisle in his 24 years at both houses of congress. Plus, he doesn't have the negatives of his primary opponent. Sen. Sanders is a nice person, works well with others, is true to his word, and gets things done. He is not hated by Republicans.

But yes, more than Hillary, he will need the rest of us to have his back, because he intends to make some necessary changes in order to build up America's middle class again. Those who have benefited from a rigged system will certainly resist.

Don't lump all Bernie supporters together. Maybe some will gripe if Bernie can't turn the world upside down, but most of us will back him because we know his heart (that word again) is in the right place. I volunteered in 2011 & 2012 for OFA and I understand and appreciate what Obama has been up against.

I believe that Bernie has a better chance of getting things done because he is more experienced and seasoned, less intimidated by tptb, and quite firm in his principles, convictions, and boundaries.

[ljm2002]

141. And how, *exactly*, will Hillary accomplish...

...her goals?

You try to make fun of Bernie's phrasing of "We should", "We ought to", and "We need to". Yet Hillary's own page seems to paint a picture of her individually and heroically pushing through her agenda.

"Hillary would" "Hillary will" ... Really?

Close the Volcker Rule’s hedge fund loophole. The Volcker Rule prohibits banks from making risky trading bets with taxpayer-backed money—one of the core protections of the post-financial crisis Wall Street reforms. However, under current law these banks can still invest billions through hedge funds, which are exempt from this rule. Hillary would close that loophole and strengthen the law.

Impose a tax on high-frequency trading. The growth of high-frequency trading has unnecessarily placed stress on our markets, created instability, and enabled unfair and abusive trading strategies. Hillary would impose a tax on harmful high-frequency trading and reform rules to make our stock markets fairer, more open, and transparent.

Prosecuting individuals when they break the law. Hillary would extend the statute of limitations for prosecuting major financial frauds, enhance whistleblower rewards, and provide the Department of Justice and the Securities and Exchange Commission more resources to prosecute wrongdoing.

Holding corporations accountable when they break the law. As she enhances individual accountability, Hillary will make sure that corporations don’t treat penalties for breaking the law as merely a cost of doing business, so that we can put an end to the patterns of corporate wrongdoing that we see too often today.

Looks to me like Hillary Clinton thinks she can just do things unilaterally... I don't see ANY details on HOW, exactly, she will be able to actually DO the things on her wish list.

[senz]

62. Bernie Sanders' Fair and Humane Immigration Policy

As president, Senator Bernie Sanders will:

Sign comprehensive immigration reform into law to bring over 11 million undocumented workers out of the shadows. We cannot continue to run an economy where millions are made so vulnerable because of their undocumented status.

Oppose tying immigration reform to the building of a border fence. Undocumented workers come to the United States to escape economic hardship and political persecution. Tying reform to unrealistic and unwise border patrol proposals renders the promise illusory for millions seeking legal status.

Sign the DREAM Act into law to offer the opportunity of permanent residency and eventual citizenship to young people who were brought to the United States as children. We must recognize the young men and women who comprise the DREAMers for who they are – American kids who deserve the right to legally be in the country they know as home.

Expand President Obama’s Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program to include the parents of citizens, parents of legal permanent residents, and the parents of DREAMERs. We need to pursue policies that unites families and does not tear them apart.

Authorize and substantially increase funding for the Legal Services Corporation to provide legal representation to guest workers who have been abused by their employers. Further, employers should be required to reimburse guest workers for housing, transportation expenses and workers’ compensation.

Substantially increase prevailing wages that employers are required to pay temporary guest workers. If there is a true labor shortage, employers should be offering higher, not lower wages.

Rewrite our trade policies to end the race to the bottom and lift the living standards of workers in this country and our trading partners. Not only have free trade agreements like NAFTA and CAFTA hurt U.S. workers, they have been a disaster for small farmers in Mexico and Central America.

https://berniesanders.com/issues/fair-and-humane-immigration-policy/

[senz]

67. Berni's Plan to Further Women's Rights

As president, Senator Bernie Sanders will:

Fight for pay equity for women.

Only nominate Supreme Court justices who support Roe v. Wade and the reproductive rights of women. As president, Sen. Sanders will only nominate Supreme Court justices who understand that Roe v. Wade is the law of the land and recognize the rights of women to have access to family planning services.

Make quality childcare and Pre-K available to all Americans. Sen. Sanders is working on a plan to make high-quality childcare and Pre-K available to every American, regardless of income. It is unacceptable that the cost of a quality childcare program is out of reach for millions of Americans.

Increase the minimum wage to $15 an hour by 2020. According to the most recent statistics, women make up two-thirds of all minimum wage workers. Increasing the minimum wage to $15 an hour would significantly boost the wages of more than 15 million women and help close the gender wage gap.

Raise the tipped minimum wage to $15 an hour by 2023. The federal tipped minimum wage of just $2.13 an hour hasn’t been raised since 1991. More than two-thirds of tipped workers are women. Increasing the tipped minimum wage to $15 an hour by 2023 would lift millions of women out of poverty and significantly reduce the gender pay gap.

Provide at least 12 weeks of paid family leave, 2 weeks of paid vacation, and one week of paid sick days to American workers.

Expand the WIC program for pregnant mothers and infants. As the Ranking Member of the Budget Committee, Sen. Sanders helped lead the effort in the Senate against Republican attempts to cut the WIC program that provides nutrition assistance to pregnant mothers, women, and infants. As president, Sen. Sanders would substantially increase funding for this program so that every low-income mother and her children receive the nutrition they need to live healthy lives.

Make healthcare a right. As president, Sen. Sanders would fight for a Medicare for All single-payer healthcare system to make healthcare a right for all Americans. If the United States joined every major country on earth and enacted a universal healthcare program, women would benefit the most. Today, women have much higher healthcare expenses than men and pay a greater portion of their healthcare costs out of their own pockets. Women make up two-thirds of the low-wage workforce and only about 23 percent of low-wage jobs provide health insurance. It is time for a Medicare for All single-payer healthcare system.

Expand Social Security. As president, Sen. Sanders will fight to expand Social Security benefits by an average of $65 a month; increase cost-of-living-adjustments to keep up with rising medical and prescription drug costs; and expand the minimum Social Security benefit to lift seniors out of poverty. Women will benefit the most by expanding Social Security. More than twice as many elderly women lived in poverty than men in 2013. Without Social Security, nearly half of all elderly women would be living in poverty.

https://berniesanders.com/issues/fighting-for-womens-rights/

[senz]

70. President Sanders willl fight for LBGT equality.

As President, Sen. Sanders will:

Sign into law the Equality Act, the Every Child Deserves a Family Act, and any other bill that prohibits discrimination against LGBT people.

Work with HHS to ensure LGBT Americans have access to comprehensive health insurance which provides appropriate coverage and do not have to fear discrimination or mistreatment from providers.

Continue the great work of the State Department’s Special Envoy for LGBT Rights and ensure the United States helps protect the rights of LGBT people around the world.

Advance policies to ensure students can attend school without fear of bullying, and work to reduce suicides.

Require police departments to adopt policies to ensure fairer interactions with transgender people, especially transgender women of color who are often targeted by police unfairly, and institute training programs to promote compliance with fair policies.

Bar discrimination against LGBT people by creditors and banks so that people will not be unfairly denied mortgages, credit cards, or student loans.

Veto any legislation that purports to “protect” religious liberty at the expense of others’ rights.


https://berniesanders.com/issues/fighting-for-lgbt-equality/

[senz]

71. President Sanders will take care of our vets

As President, Sen. Sanders will:

Fully fund and expand the VA so that every veteran gets the care that he or she has earned and deserves.

Substantially improve the processing of Veterans’ claims for compensation.

Expand the VA’s Caregivers Program.

Expand mental health service for Veterans.

Make comprehensive dental care available to all veterans at the VA.

------------------------

Senator Sanders has already

Authored the historic Veterans’ Access, Choice and Accountability Act to improve care and increase accountability at the VA.

Co-sponsored the Post-9/11 GI Bill to allow a new generation of veterans, servicemembers and dependents to seek a college degree.

Co-sponsored the Women Veterans Access to Quality Care Act, to ensureVA facilities meet the needs of women veterans, and require every VA medical center to have obstetricians or gynecologists on staff.

Introduced legislation to restore all cuts to military pensions.

https://berniesanders.com/issues/caring-for-our-veterans/

[NanceGreggs]

72. And he will DO all of this ...

... by waving his magic wand?

[concreteblue]

108. You are being less than disingenuous

I have enjoyed your posts since I have been coming to Du, but you seem to be grasping here. Bernie will get it done in the same manner he got the Veteran's bill done, the same way he got dozens of amenf=dments added to bills and signed into law.
DO you really think the CONservatives, who will turn out in droves to vote if Hillary is the Dem nom, will let their reps compromise with her on ANYTHING?
I am all for supporting one's candidate with gusto, but you have drifted into unhinged territory in your zeal.

[ljm2002]

142. And Hillary will DO all of her proposals...

...by waving her own magic wand?

Just because she has more staff to write denser verbiage, does NOT mean she has any better PLAN to push her agenda through Congress. In fact, with far less experience in Congress than Bernie has (and he has served in BOTH houses of Congress), I believe she has less chance to succeed in that area than he does.

But of course none of us can know. Whoever is the President, and we can only fervently hope it is a Democrat, will have a hell of a tough row to hoe when the time comes. In the meantime, we are choosing from among our Democratic field. I choose to go with the person who has maintained the most consistent progressive record, AND who has a proven record of accomplishment. I do acknowledge that ALL of our Democratic candidates have proven records BTW. However, her positions are often to the right of mine, especially in matters of foreign policy and economics. So I'll go for Bernie.

[senz]

74. The Sanders Plan To Lower Prescription Drug Prices

1) Negotiate A Better Deal. Require Medicare to use its bargaining power to negotiate with the prescription drug companies for better prices – a practice that is currently banned by law. Not only would negotiation substantially reduce prices seniors and people with disabilities pay for drugs, it could save Medicare between $230 billion to $541 billion dollars over the next decade.

2) Import Prescriptions from Canada. Allow individuals, pharmacists, and wholesalers to import prescription drugs from licensed Canadian pharmacies.

Prohibit the United States from agreeing to provisions in international trade deals that would raise drug prices in the United States or extend the monopoly period when a brand name drug company has no generic competition.

Suspend the government’s authority to destroy packages of imported drugs at the border until new legislation is passed ensuring that Americans can import safe and affordable drugs from Canada.


3) Restore Discounts for Low-Income Seniors.

Close the Medicare Part D donut hole for brand and generic drugs by 2017, three years earlier than under current law.

Require generic drug companies to pay an additional rebate to Medicaid if their drug prices rise faster than inflation.

Restore Medicare prescription drug discounts for low-income seniors and people with disabilities.

4) Prohibit Deals that Keep Generic Drugs Off the Market. Prohibit anti-competitive deals – “pay-for-delay” deals – between brand and generic drug makers.

5) Enact Stronger Penalties for Fraud. Terminate exclusivity—a government-awarded monopoly period—from a drug company convicted of fraud.

6) Require Pricing and Cost Transparency.

Require drug companies to publicly report information that affects drug pricing.

Under the Sanders plan, drug makers would be required to report certain price information to the federal government and the public on their products, including the total expenditures on research and development and clinical trials, as well as the portion of their drug development expenses offset by tax credits or paid for by federal grants.

Companies would also be required to report not only the price information charged to federal payers, such as Medicare, but would also have to submit price, profit, and sales information for other countries in which the drug is sold.

https://berniesanders.com/issues/fighting-to-lower-prescription-drug-prices/

[senz]

75. President Sanders on War and Peace

As President, Sen. Sanders will:

Move away from a policy of unilateral military action, and toward a policy of emphasizing diplomacy, and ensuring the decision to go to war is a last resort.

Ensure that any military action we do engage in has clear goals, is limited in scope, and whenever possible provides support to our allies in the region.

Close Guantanamo Bay, rein in the National Security Agency, abolish the use of torture, and remember what truly makes America exceptional: our values.

Expand our global influence by promoting fair trade, addressing global climate change, providing humanitarian relief and economic assistance, defending the rule of law, and promoting human rights.

https://berniesanders.com/issues/war-and-peace/

[Buzz Clik]

134. Hell bells, Nance -- his name is not on all of those bills!

So odd. The first is a perfect example. He may have voted for it, but he had little else to do with it.

(This crap is sounding desperate)

[cantbeserious]

53. Busted - Another HRC Bernie Myth Bites The Dust

eom

[Betty Karlson]

69. Thank you for that list!

Great post. Get thee recommended and kicked.

[wyldwolf]

86. Lots of "114th and 113th" congress in there...

Almost like he had a flurry of activity in hopes someone like you would notice when he ran for President.

[pinstikfartherin]

87. Oh yeah, you got me there...

114 (2015-2016) 231

113 (2013-2014) 329

112 (2011-2012) 448

111 (2009-2010) 529

110 (2007-2008) 653

109 (2005-2006) 628

108 (2003-2004) 568

107 (2001-2002) 597

106 (1999-2000) 505

[beam me up scottie]

88. BOOM!

[wyldwolf]

92. How many are currently law?

Progressives are very good at proposing laws that have little or no chance of passing. I realize that's considered a success to some, as 'fighting the good fight," but it can't be in any way be called a real accomplishment.

[99Forever]

90. But reading is HARD! Besides...

... it's HER turn gawddammit.

[tblue37]

91. K&R for visibility. nt

[Enthusiast]

94. Yeah! I could never support a candidate like that!

[KingCharlemagne]

95. Where, oh where, did I put that list of HRC's legislative accompishments? Oh wait,

it's drenched in the blood of Iraqi innocents. No harm though, as it was mostly just a blank page.

Excellent thread.

[Helen Borg]

98. So what? The only thing your research shows...

is REALITY. Big deal.

[gregcrawford]

99. NOT A SITTING SENATOR?!!? This is a joke, right?

Yes, Bernie IS a sitting senator. There are bills in your own list above that were sponsored by Sanders. And even in the midst of campaigning, he has missed fewer votes than any other active candidate currently in Congress.

I'm hoping this was just a rather shaky attempt at sarcasm. Use that smiley next time! If not, then... Wow. Just, wow.

[99th_Monkey]

113. Yes, it's a joke. -nt-

[TBF]

101. ...

[raouldukelives]

102. K&R nt

[AlbertCat]

103. B-b-b-but.... I didn't know his name until this year!

Now Clinton.... there's a name that's been around for decades!

[stage left]

106. K&R

and bookmarked.

[MissDeeds]

111. Excellent post

Thank you, pinstikfartherin!



K&R!

[bigtree]

112. any of these actually his own legislation?

...I slogged through about a fourth of them and I couldn't find a Sanders sponsored bill.

hold up...I found one:

S.922 - Corporate Tax Dodging Prevention Act

...it would be better and more representative of his own policy intentions to post a list of Sanders written and sponsored legislation. Good votes here, but it's misleading to call all of these Sanders plans.

[riversedge]

119. see #116 --

not exactly what you asked but related.

[Gloria]

114. You forgot one...his bill paired with Ron Paul's House bill

to do a real audit of the FED.

Oh, yes, at the LAST MOMENT, Sanders bagged his own bill and voted for the compromise which defanged his own bill.

And, he didn't notify Ron Paul.

Paul was disappointed and felt betrayed....I posted his video statement on this recently and if you do a DU search you can see the posts from around 2010 when DU was very upset about what Sanders did!

[lonestarnot]

115. That damn worthless Bernie!

K & R

[riversedge]

116. Great ideas for many--but little substance ....some updates for you OP..

Well, thank you OP for doing such a GREAT job in proving the point that Bernie does have GRAND ideas, but not an ounce of Substance. Your links do so well in proving just that point!



Your section on women points out 7 bills that Bernie sponsors or cosponsors, yet not a single one.. that's right NOT A SINGLE ONE, has passed either Senate, or House yet, much less the presidency or came anywhere NEAR becoming an actual law.. You are so right, the idea is there. No meat.

Your section on families and children.. Three wonderful links. All introduced, but again, that's as far as they've gone. Great ideas, no substance.

The biggie for Bernie.. Corporations, and tax breaks. you give 5x great links. How many are anywhere past the starting gate of being introduced? Yep, that's right.. a big fat ZERO again. All are right there at the starting gate of good ideas.

Healthcare.. 4x introduced.. 4x still just at introduced.

Justice Reform: 5x more great links showing those great ideas.. yep, once again, all are just in that nice starting phase of introduced.

Investment and protection of our workers: 5x proposed 5x still just proposed.

Fighting for our youth? 2 for 2

Veterans: Congratulations.. you did find one bill , S.1493 to adjust the veterans cost of living that has passed the Senate. What's better, the ONLY bill in your entire list of bills, that Senator Sanders co-sponsored was one that was proposed by Senator Johnny Isakson, a REPUBLICAAN from Georgia. The one bill is a bipartisan bill.. how ironic when the whole Bernie is the bestest argument is that he doesn't compromise. But you did get one here that has had SOME progress at least.

Protecting our Democracy) 1 for 1 just introduced.. nothing more.

Environment? Again, 5 for 5 just introduced and nothing more.

You have done such a WONDERFUL job proving our point that Bernies is a man of great ideas.. but nothing else.

You have given us 45 examples, and with only 1 exception, they are all JUST ideas. The only one that has passed the Senate is a bipartisan one that is actually proposed by a Republican.

Thank you, I was actually beginning to wonder if my supposition that Bernie is just ideas. My moment of self-doubt has now passed.

[pinstikfartherin]

168. But see, that's what we do here at DU!

We post these silly things instead of taking something from his ideas or Hillary's or O'Malley's...which are what ALL of their "plans" are at this point, ideas and wish lists...and comparing, discussing, debating the pros and cons. That's the point of the OP and everyone proved it oh so well.

You can take this madness as serious as you want, but taking so much time arguing what does and does not qualify as ideas is silly. This shows what's wrong with DU: instead of picking something specific about education costs or the minimum wage implementation and discussing the idea itself, we are complaining about stupid shit.

You guys are a trip, seriously. This thread has been all all I thought it'd be. Post something about an important policy I like addiction treament and you get a few replies, but post something sarcastically meant to stir the pot and you've got a hit!

[George II]

121. How many of those has he authored (not just "co-sponsored") and how many have been enacted?

[jeff47]

133. Congress.gov has lovely filters you too can use to find out!

You can also look up Clinton's record and find out just how many in the laundry list her supporters repost were not just co-sponsored.

[George II]

125. An impressive list of 44 bills. However:

Of the 44, Sanders introduced only 18 of those, and only FOUR were introduced prior to becoming a candidate for President.

So, he "co-sponsored" (i.e., not authored) 26 of those in the list, confirming what I've been saying for months. Sanders is a follower, not a leader.

[jeff47]

132. .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=797645

[Fla Dem]

148. That's what struck me was the avalanche of bills in 2015. It would be more

impressive if there was a compendium of similar bills throughout his 8 years in the senate. I commend him for his actions but would hope they were not just motivated by his desire to run for president.

[moondust]

151. That's nothing compared to universal name recognition.

With perhaps a dash of latent sexism/racism.

[TNNurse]

157. I just want to remind those who post on here

the general population is unable to understand sarcasm and irony and many other forms of speaking and writing. I tell you they do not get jokes. Stephen Colbert at the White House Correspondents dinner during the Bush administration is the perfect example.

Some of them just want to believe crap about either party and some of them are so ignorant they have no basis to understand facts. And as hard as it is to admit, many of them are just stupid.

[reflection]

161. Thanks for the detailed info!

Glad to be the 200th rec.

[nilram]

162. pfft, flash in the pan.

Bernie who?

[Dem2]

163. Now this is a good post.

Sarcastic subject line aside, point well made.

[Lunabell]

167. LOL

I was starting to get pissed off!

[japple]

173. Bu...but..but... you forgot to post the sarcasm smilie. Can't tell if you're really

serious because you forgot to post that little thingy.

[grahamhgreen]

174. Horrible!!! He wants to repeal and replace Obamacare;)

[azmom]

178. K&R

[MrMickeysMom]

184. WELL.... I can see THIS needs to be kicked again!