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riversedge

(70,273 posts)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 07:21 PM Nov 2015

Military Times Op-ED by Hillary Clinton: Taking care of vets is 'sacred responsibility'


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Our veterans have done so much for us; now we need to do more for them. Read Hillary’s op-ed in the @MilitaryTimes: http://hrc.io/1O3JbfP


Commentary: Taking care of vets is 'sacred responsibility'

By Hillary Clinton, Special to Military Times 12:08 a.m. EST November 11, 2015




Hillary Clinton and veterans

(Photo: Jim Cole/AP)


This Veterans Day is an opportunity to reaffirm that America’s promise to our veterans is a sacred responsibility. Yet today we are failing to keep faith with our veterans. Long wait times for health care, crippling claims backlogs, little or no coordination between different government agencies responsible for serving veterans — these problems are serious, systemic and absolutely unacceptable. They need to be fixed, and fixed now.

First, we have to reform the VA to guarantee that our veterans have reliable and consistent access to the high-quality health care they’ve earned. We should transform the Veterans Health Administration from just a provider of services into a truly integrated health care system.

If we can maintain the most advanced military in the history of the world and fight wars across vast oceans and continents, we can figure out how to ensure that no veterans ever have to wait in line for weeks or months to get care, no matter where they live or what their needs are.

It starts with accountability, from the top leadership at the VA to midlevel managers to entry-level employees. As president, I will personally convene the secretary of veterans affairs and the secretary of defense in regular joint meetings and direct them to sync up their systems, coordinate efforts at every level, and enforce zero tolerance for the kind of abuses and delays we’ve seen.

The VA currently uses more than 100 electronic health record systems, so different sites can’t talk to one another, much less with the Defense Department or other hospital systems. That doesn’t make any sense, and it does a disservice to our veterans.....

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Clinton unveils plan for veterans, military personnel
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Military Times Op-ED by Hillary Clinton: Taking care of vets is 'sacred responsibility' (Original Post) riversedge Nov 2015 OP
Part of "taking care of Vets" is not wasting their lives on wars started under guillaumeb Nov 2015 #1
Thank you for your concern riversedge Nov 2015 #3
I am so tired of the bullshit. Read her op/ed. Evergreen Emerald Nov 2015 #4
I am personally fatigued with those who rewrite and/or ignore history: guillaumeb Nov 2015 #8
Me too Evergreen Emerald Nov 2015 #25
. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #27
"It was to threaten war" was the spin, guillaumeb Nov 2015 #32
Dick Cheney is a psychic, he accurately predicted the course of the Iraq war in 1994 Fumesucker Nov 2015 #14
But there was a "coalition of the willing" for the Bush/Cheney war. guillaumeb Nov 2015 #16
Don't forget Poland Fumesucker Nov 2015 #17
And Costa Rica, until they protested at being included. eom guillaumeb Nov 2015 #19
What have YOU done on the part of any veteran? oasis Nov 2015 #12
I personally have demonstrated against war since 1968. guillaumeb Nov 2015 #18
Thank you. oasis Nov 2015 #20
given she made a lot of them with her unapologetic votes, yeah. I agree with her. roguevalley Nov 2015 #22
K&R BootinUp Nov 2015 #2
K AND R! JaneyVee Nov 2015 #5
Another stark difference from Republicans: yallerdawg Nov 2015 #6
yes, it is. riversedge Nov 2015 #10
And Bernie did something about it besides bloviate and tell an enlistment attempt story! merrily Nov 2015 #7
here is a great idea to take care of vets restorefreedom Nov 2015 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #11
K&R mcar Nov 2015 #13
Odd coming from a candidate who supports troops on the ground.. jkbRN Nov 2015 #15
Does she say that??? riversedge Nov 2015 #23
Hillary does NOT support troops on the ground. riversedge Nov 2015 #30
How "Sacred" Is It To Send Them To An Illegal War ??? WillyT Nov 2015 #21
“To all our veterans, and the men and women now serving: You represent the very best that our countr riversedge Nov 2015 #24
Did she release a full detailed plan somewhere or is this all we get? askew Nov 2015 #26
The end of the article has a link to her plan riversedge Nov 2015 #28
Thanks. Happy she finally released some specifics. askew Nov 2015 #29
Glad you have an open mind. Thank you riversedge Nov 2015 #31

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
1. Part of "taking care of Vets" is not wasting their lives on wars started under
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 07:23 PM
Nov 2015

demonstrably false pretenses, and not voting to get involved in such wars.

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
4. I am so tired of the bullshit. Read her op/ed.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 07:40 PM
Nov 2015

You know she did not start the war, right? You understand that no matter how she voted, Bush would have used the power poorly? You get that she did not vote to get us involved in a war.

She voted to give Bush the hammer to get Hussein in line. He betrayed her and our country.



guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
8. I am personally fatigued with those who rewrite and/or ignore history:
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 07:51 PM
Nov 2015

To wit:

More than a dozen years later, Hillary Clinton is still being haunted by her decision to break with the majority of her Congressional Democratic colleagues and vote in favor of President George W. Bush's call to authorize the U.S. invasion and occupation of Iraq.

Clinton is the only one of the five major announced candidates for the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination who supported that illegal and unnecessary war, which not only resulted in 4,500 American deaths and thousands more permanently disabled, but hundreds of thousands of Iraqi deaths, the destabilization of the region with the rise of ISIS, and a dramatic increase in the federal deficit resulting in major cutbacks to important social programs.

Her defenders have characterized her vote as a "mistake." However, it would have been a mistake only if she had pushed the "aye" button when she had meant to push the "nay" button. It was quite deliberate and the implications still raise serious questions.

Pope John Paul II and the National Council of Catholic Bishops, along with the leadership of virtually every major mainline U.S. Protestant denomination, came out in opposition to the U.S. invasion of Iraq. The Christian groups that supported Bush's call for war were essentially restricted to right-wing fundamentalists, thereby raising some serious questions as to where Clinton is coming from theologically.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stephen-zunes/support-for-iraq-war-stil_b_7941264.html

And also:
Hillary Clinton has yet to live down the vote she cast to back the Iraq War as a senator in 2002—a vote that helped President Obama beat her in the 2008 democratic primaries. On Thursday, her 2016 rival Bernie Sanders stopped short of saying that her vote should disqualify her from being president. But there was a "but."

"I'm not here to criticize the vote she cast years ago," Sanders, the most progressive candidate in the democratic field, told reporters at a breakfast hosted by the Christian Science Monitor in Washington, DC. "But what does that mean in terms of your judgment in assessing information?"

His answer didn't go as far as another 2016 Clinton challenger, former Rhode Island governor Lincoln Chafee, who doesn't believe that "anybody should be president of the United States that made that mistake." Sanders' take was more forgiving: "Everybody makes bad votes in their lives and I don't think anyone is 'disqualified.'"

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2015/06/sanders-clinton-iraq-war-vote

In the period before the war, there were millions of people marching, there were many stories in the progressive )and even the mainstream) media about the lies being used by the Bush Administration to justify what was a war of choice. Any politicians who voted for that war were either unaware of the facts or chose to ignore them.

The result of that vote was that hundreds of thousands of innocent Afghanis, Iraqis, and some thousands of US soldiers died.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
27. .
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 01:08 AM
Nov 2015
The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the US as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to defend the national security of the US against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and enforce all relevant UN Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq.


Doesn't sound like merely a threat to this voter. Sure sounds like full authorization. Too bad for her, I don't vote for hawks.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
32. "It was to threaten war" was the spin,
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 08:45 PM
Nov 2015

but the whole world knew that the spin was merely voiced to give cover to the politicians. There was never any intention on the part of Cheney to stop at the threat. And the same hawkish Democrats who are ever ready to vote for wars also knew this. But it did give these Democrats plausible deniability.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
14. Dick Cheney is a psychic, he accurately predicted the course of the Iraq war in 1994
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 08:59 PM
Nov 2015

If only Hillary had listened to Cheney v1.9.94 she would not be wearing this albatross today.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
16. But there was a "coalition of the willing" for the Bush/Cheney war.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:20 PM
Nov 2015

Including such powerhouses as Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Palau, and others.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
18. I personally have demonstrated against war since 1968.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:23 PM
Nov 2015

In my Union, as a Steward for 30 plus years, I represented many vets and gave them outside resources to consider when I could not personally help with a particular agency.

I dealt with numerous Vietnam vets who had a PTSD diagnosis and directed them to available counseling within the VA and the USPS.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
22. given she made a lot of them with her unapologetic votes, yeah. I agree with her.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:42 PM
Nov 2015

Especially the broken ones.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
6. Another stark difference from Republicans:
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 07:47 PM
Nov 2015
As we work to improve the VA, I will fight as long and as hard as it takes to prevent Republicans from privatizing it as part of a misguided ideological crusade.

I believe in giving veterans more choice in where and how they receive care and I think there should be more partnerships between the VA and private hospitals and community health care providers. But we can’t put our vets at the mercy of private insurance companies without any care coordination, or leave them to fend for themselves with health care providers who have no expertise in the unique challenges facing veterans. Privatization is a betrayal, plain and simple.

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jkbRN

(850 posts)
15. Odd coming from a candidate who supports troops on the ground..
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:05 PM
Nov 2015
I am deeply committed to Israel’s future as a secure and democratic Jewish state, and just as convinced that the only way to guarantee that outcome is through diplomacy. And while no solution can be imposed from outside, I believe the United States has a responsibility to help bring Israelis and Palestinians to the table and to encourage the difficult but necessary decisions that will lead to peace. As president I will never stop working to advance the goal of two states for two peoples living in peace, security and dignity.

I will do everything I can to enhance our strategic partnership and strengthen America’s security commitment to Israel, ensuring that it always has the qualitative military edge to defend itself. That includes immediately dispatching a delegation of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to meet with senior Israeli commanders. I would also invite the Israeli prime minister to the White House in my first month in office.


I also will combat growing efforts to isolate Israel internationally and to undermine its future as a Jewish state, including the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement. I’ve spoken out against BDS in the United States and at the U.N., and will continue to do so.



Read more: http://forward.com/opinion/national/324013/how-i-would-rebuild-ties-to-israel-and-benjamin-neta/#ixzz3rEZk2AMj

In breaking with the White House by calling for military action to protect civilians in Syria, former secretary of state Hillary Rodham Clinton is siding with at least two of her Republican opponents in the 2016 presidential election.

Clinton adopted the opposite position from the White House she used to serve on Thursday by advocating additional international air power to protect civilians in the multi-front war.

“I personally would be advocating now for a no-fly zone and humanitarian corridors to try to stop the carnage on the ground and from the air,” the Democratic presidential hopeful said in an interview.

That puts her in the same camp as former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and fellow Republican Ohio Gov. John Kasich.


Read More: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/10/02/in-break-with-white-house-clinton-advocates-syria-no-fly-zone/
 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
21. How "Sacred" Is It To Send Them To An Illegal War ???
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:33 PM
Nov 2015

Richard Ertle found a creative spot for his sticker/sign when protesters from Occupy Grand Rapids picketed during Vice President Joe Biden;s visit to San Chez restaurant last month.
T.J. Hamilton | The Grand Rapids Press








Would you like me to continue ???


riversedge

(70,273 posts)
24. “To all our veterans, and the men and women now serving: You represent the very best that our countr
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 10:03 PM
Nov 2015






Hillary Clinton ?@HillaryClinton 5h5 hours ago

“To all our veterans, and the men and women now serving: You represent the very best that our country has to offer.”

askew

(1,464 posts)
26. Did she release a full detailed plan somewhere or is this all we get?
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 12:40 AM
Nov 2015

Her website is very light on the specifics. https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/veterans/

Compare that to the plan Martin O'Malley released which is detailed and tells us where he stands.

https://martinomalley.com/policy/veterans/

askew

(1,464 posts)
29. Thanks. Happy she finally released some specifics.
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 02:56 AM
Nov 2015

I prefer O'Malley's plan but this is much better than I expected from her.

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