You gotta hand it to DWS. Not only are there only six debates, but the three ones before Iowa...

[AZ Progressive]

are on the weekends! Two on a Saturday! Saturday night is about the worst night to put anything on TV, as everyone is out. People must not know about Bernie! Only through Larry David impersonations!

[Codeine]

1. Nobody watches live tv anymore, except sports.

This is the era of DVRs and streaming. The precise time a debate is broadcast is meaningless.

[AZ Progressive]

6. You gotta be really interested if you'd plan on DVRing it.

And I didn't know that the last debate was fully streamable.... Clips are just small snips and don't tell the whole story.

[Codeine]

7. Well to be fair,

to watch a presidential debate AT ALL in an era of infinite viewing choices you've got to be really interested.

Media isn't stumbled across randomly anymore. Nobody who isn't planning on watching a debate is going to see it regardless of date and time.

[RichVRichV]

13. Actually there is a demographic that still watches tv heavily and primarily gets their news from tv.

That's the over 50 crowd. Which also happens to be Hillary's strongest age demographic against Bernie in polling.


It's why tv exposure for Bernie is so detrimental to her, it digs into her strongest base. Debates can hurt her even more than they can help her.


That's true even though tv viewership overall is becoming less and less important over time. Bernie already does very well among people who don't watch much television (the younger crowds).

[Bluenorthwest]

25. In that graph, 'traditional TV' means both live and DVR'd viewing. It is exclusive of 'streaming

services' and 'internet viewing' but it does not mean that the demographic watches only what is on when it is on. This is the age of the DVR.

[RichVRichV]

30. If you read the fine print at the bottom

it list the average time viewed live (26:40) and average time viewed dvr'd (3:07).


Regardless of how shows are viewed it still illustrates why tv time, and debates in particular, are still important in spite of falling ratings. Limiting debates favors a better known front runner among the older reliable voting block. It has little effect among the younger crowd who get their information elsewhere.


It's not a coincidence that Bernie does well among age groups that don't rely on tv for their information and poorly among those that do.

[reddread]

18. nobody

nobody that matters doesnt have cable or other access to online coverage.
you might want to check your economic bias.

[Agschmid]

2. I'll be out at a debate watch party...

So yes I'll be out.

[RobertEarl]

3. Very well engineered

I don't think it will mean H> wins, but by gawd DWS tried!

And ruined party unity!

[ViseGrip]

4. And they are up against football games! Only we will be watching. INTENSIONAL I say...

[bravenak]

5. I will be watching with friends. And my ipad. They hate that.

[NanceGreggs]

8. Oh noes!!!!!!!!!!

Not only are there NOT the right number of debates - the ones that are scheduled are on the WRONG nights!!!!!

Is there no END to this madness??????????????

[demwing]

21. no, apparently not

because here you are, defending this stupidity

[daleanime]

29. So it's Yea for Clown Car coverage....

and less rational debate presented to the public? Doesn't seem like a good thing to me.

[Thinkingabout]

9. There is always dvr's etc and live feeds and reruns. It is as much as any night for exposure.

[mythology]

10. To clarify

you're contending that people don't watch TV on Saturday nights, but they will watch Saturday Night Live?

[OilemFirchen]

11. Ha ha!

Beautiful.

[hopemountain]

15. of course they watch SNL later after

they return from dinner or an outing with the family or a an afternoon bbq. the only ones watching tv early on saturday evenings are people like me...and there are not enough of us to elect any democrat. dws is handing this next election to the gop.

[jfern]

12. One is even the Saturday before Christmas

That's got to be just about the worst day possible for a debate.

[Renew Deal]

14. Wasn't the first debate the most watched Democratic debate ever?

Don't make excuses.

[Aerows]

16. She is not just screwing over O'Malley and Sanders

She's screwing over Clinton along with the entire Democratic party.

I cannot *fathom* what her thinking is to do this to the party.

[Major Hogwash]

17. Her thinking is that if there are more debates, then there are more chances that . . .

. . . Hillary will go off script and tell some whopper of a story, like how she was busy dodging bullets in Bosnia.

As a veteran, she offends me to no end.
If Bill Clinton would have made up some war-type story like that, I wouldn't have voted for him.
So, it isn't because she is a female that I feel that way; her gender has nothing to do with it.
If Obama would have told a whopper of a story like that during the campaign in 2008, I would have been just as pissed off.

[bahrbearian]

19. Debbies not a Democrat.

[RiverLover]

20. +1

She's a conservative right winger who's infiltrated the Democratic Party. She's a "New Democrat", code for "Not a Democrat."

July, 2014 (Before Dems lost big in Nov 2014)~

Friday morning, Sen. Elizabeth Warren rocked the Netroots Nation 2014 crowd with a rousing speech about what it means to be a Democrat, what we believe in...the speech she's been giving to mobilize the base around the country.

So where was the DNC this week, in Detroit, backing up Warren? Nope. DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman-Schultz was hanging out with the Third Way.

Yeah. That would be the Third Way that attacked Sen. Warren for her economic populism, the Third Way whose board of directors is completely stacked with CEOs and investment bankers. Maybe Third Way puts out a better breakfast spread than Netroots Nation.

But the DNC has to consider this. When the chips are down this fall, who are they going to be asking to make GOTV calls and go door to door? Who is running their voter registration drives? And just which Democratic senator is out working the crowds in the red states for a Democratic Senate in 2014?

DNC Chair Wasserman Schultz might want to reconsider the kind of crowd she's hanging with.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/07/18/1314951/-Hey-DNC-whose-side-are-you-on

[reformist2]

22. Yep. More people need to start realizing how much big money has corrupted our party.

[NCTraveler]

23. Is the revolution on hold while people go out Saturday night.

The revolution rhetoric is doing Sanders no favors. Your point here is one of the big reasons why.

[Bluenorthwest]

27. I just searched the page this thread is on. You are the only person using the word 'revolution' in

the entire thread. You drag it out and toss it at the OP, who did not use it at all. It's like you are going out of your way to push that trope.
I've spent my adult life in this Party hearing candidates chosen by the majority smear LGBT and preach their God trash at us. That shit never seemed to bother you folks.

But this word grins your gears? That's very telling.

[NCTraveler]

28. I just went through a couple of posts at the top of GD P

And saw the word revolution being used many times by Sanders supporters. You simply aren't being honest. It is all over the place here.

You yourself have painted it as some kind of revolution.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251790884#post36

The post you were replying to there was one hundred percent about the primaries. You were clearly insinuating it was some kind of revolution. Not only that, but it has been sold here from day one as a revolution.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12809278



I do agree with the point you are trying to make. There is no revolution.

[Scuba]

24. Hey, hey, ho, ho. DINO Debbie's got to go!

[cantbeserious]

26. The Zeal To Elect A Female President Has Overshadowed The Good Judgement Of Many

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