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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 09:50 AM Nov 2015

It's not "sexist" to want to see a woman president.

It's ironic that this meme pops up here from time to time, because usually you see it from the right. The idea is preferring a candidate because of their gender (or race) is by definition sexist (or racist) because we should make judgements that don't take into account gender, or race, or anything else like that. In fact, this is one of the principle arguments that the right has made against affirmative action.

And that would be valid if we lived in a world where there weren't any persistent prejudices against certain subgroups. But we don't.

As for me, if all things being equal, I'd vote for a woman over a man. Even if all things are not quite equal, I'd still probably give the nod to the woman. Yes, I know what's coming: "so would you vote for Sarah Palin?" No. Because with Palin, things are not remotely close to equal.


Why would I support a woman over a similarly qualified man? A number of reasons.

It will be a historic step that the US should have taken a long time ago.

It will inspire millions of young girls to see a woman president.

Given the inherent challenges that women face in our society, a woman with a similar resume to a man is likely to be more capable, since they had to fight harder and perform better to get to the same place.

It brings in a different perspective to the presidency. Women have different experiences than men, and despite constituting 50% of the population, they are grossly underrepresented in positions of leadership. The leadership in this country is missing out on the perspectives of people who have experienced life as a woman.

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It's not "sexist" to want to see a woman president. (Original Post) DanTex Nov 2015 OP
........ daleanime Nov 2015 #1
K&R. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #2
You would vote for somebody less qualified because she is a woman Travis_0004 Nov 2015 #3
If it was close, probably yes. It depends on the individual circumstances, of course. DanTex Nov 2015 #5
Only if you say you will Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #4
Do you also think affirmative action is racist? DanTex Nov 2015 #6
He won't answer.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #7
If the applicant is qualified, no Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #11
Affirmative action means some black students with lower test scores will get admission DanTex Nov 2015 #16
I guess I was not clear or maybe you Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #17
Then why do you have a problem with including Hillary being a woman as a reason to vote for her? DanTex Nov 2015 #18
because gender is not a qualifying trait to be pres or cic restorefreedom Nov 2015 #19
I will vote for a Democrat...because I am a Partyist! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #8
Not something I would brag about, but whatever. Dawgs Nov 2015 #9
Who has ever said that WANTING to see a woman president is sexist? Dawgs Nov 2015 #10
Palin. NT. Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #12
Yeah, I covered that. DanTex Nov 2015 #14
Great post k&r n/t cosmicone Nov 2015 #13
My daughter is excited to see a woman president as opposed to white male #44. Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #15
The irony is that Hillary is very qualified YoungDemCA Nov 2015 #20
I agree, but the point is moot because Sanders is far better than Clinton (IMHO) Vattel Nov 2015 #21
 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
3. You would vote for somebody less qualified because she is a woman
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 09:59 AM
Nov 2015

That is your right, but it seems like a dumb reason to support somebody to me.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
5. If it was close, probably yes. It depends on the individual circumstances, of course.
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 10:03 AM
Nov 2015

I think that the value of a woman's perspective, the inspiration to younger women and girls, would be worth voting for someone with slightly weaker credentials on paper.

And, like I explained, if a woman and a man come in with the same resume, the woman is usually more capable because it's more difficult for a woman to reach the same levels of success as a man.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
4. Only if you say you will
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 10:03 AM
Nov 2015

Vote for her because she is a woman as I have seen on DU, that is indeed sexist.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
16. Affirmative action means some black students with lower test scores will get admission
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 11:14 AM
Nov 2015

over a white student with higher test scores. Do you think that's racist?

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
17. I guess I was not clear or maybe you
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 11:16 AM
Nov 2015

Have a problem with reading. As long as the person is qualified.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
19. because gender is not a qualifying trait to be pres or cic
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 12:07 PM
Nov 2015

that decision should be made based on their record, competency, and policy positions. period.

 

YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
20. The irony is that Hillary is very qualified
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 12:25 PM
Nov 2015

The misogynists think that wanting a woman and wanting a qualified candidate are mutually exclusive. They're not.

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