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The poster blw probably doesn't realize you've been to Sanders supporters Organizing (Face to Face, feet on the ground, GOTV) meetings. 
a true grasp of reality with respect to the intelligence and reasoning ability of many POC and others on this site. I'm not ever going to bite my tongue again, in any instance, with them I mentioned making a concerted effort to silence the AA voice here. And that's in both protected forums, as you well know and elsewhere here. I'm totally turned off by BS. I see you've been keeping up the good fight...
... I forgot.
That poll shows that Bernie Sanders will win all 50 states.
Forgive me for doubting - I have been a fool.
I was using facts again. 
Not good.
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The meme has apparently worked.
Sanders and his supporters are 'racists' that must change and not PoC.
Not only is this factually wrong, it is condescending and racist. The concept of the 'magical negro' is apparently something you and many Clinton supporters are not aware of.
Look as a PoC, I can unequivocally state that there are as many low information voters who vote against their own best self-interest in the latino and AA communities as there are whites in their communities. This is an American citizen condition, not something unique to a subset by race.
There is nothing special about the color of our skin that somehow magically gives us some keen political insights.
Yes, there are a few very vocal PoC here (all Clinton supporters by the way!) who want to convince us they are embarrassed or harassed. There are PoC Sanders supporters who get just as much shit from the Clinton posse.
PoC are not a monolithic group. Some political junkies will support Sanders here and elsewhere. Some political junkies will support Clinton here and elsewhere. And the rest are low information, overwhelmed by the economic circumstances, and just plain don't give a shit about who occupies the White House.
The Sanders campaign is doing just fine and so are his supporters. Thanks for your concern though.
Look as a PoC, I can unequivocally state that there are as many low information voters who vote against their own best self-interest in the latino and AA communities as there are whites in their communities. This is an American citizen condition, not something unique to a subset by race.
This may be true, but it is on us to make our candidates case that he is the real deal. Telling 'uninformed' POC that their candidate doesn't give a shit about them when respected members of their community tells them that their candidate does care is a loosing strategy.
Try telling a LIV White voter that Trump/Carson/Rubio doesn't give a fuck about them of America and see what happens.
And I'm not giving Clinton supporters a pass either. Some of the most decisive crap at DU that I have seen lately has come from her more cult-like supporters. Some have even emerged from their other website to post in this thread.
So lets get real and talk about how our candidate supports POC issues and let them decide.
And maybe instead of a thread that the supposed offenders probably won't see, you should call them out when and where you see the attacks. 
Alert stalking is shitty no matter who does it.
I guess we have a different definition of what an attack is.
The first example you use is harsh. And I probably would not say that to anyone. But I think it about Republicans all the time. An attack however? I think it's a conclusion based on Hillary's past actions.
Who has called Sander's a racist? Please look up the loathsome OP "Not enough Bernie" OP.
I don't know the context of the "more research" comment but you're right it is never good to make a sweeping generalization. If someone said that to me I might point that out. But would I feel attacked? Hardly. It's the internets.
Stockholm Syndrome? I'm gay and I smiled at that. Sorry. I have a very thick skin.
Race nagger. Racist baiter. I think the people that throw that out need to provide examples for you.
Presuming it's only Republicans who ever do anything racist. Well it isn't only Republicans. We are ALL racists to a degree.
Which brings me to a post I made yesterday. As I predicted not a peep in response. I'll give the link so you can take a look if you wish. I simply do not think people are serious on this board about all of this. It's an internet board and what more fun could their be then scoring points with your pals and getting a gotcha on someone, or painting them as a "racist" based on one type written comment.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=790158
Again thanks. Refreshing to be addressed in a polite fashion.
Anyone can vote for whoever they want. All I ask is that they get their buns out of the house on election day and vote. I'm sick to death of everyone whining about everything, but come election day they can't be bothered to show up. When people in Kentucky die because their Obamacare is gone, ask them how not showing up to vote turned out. (Yes, this makes me angry.
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Thank you.
Very bizzare.
I spend lots of time in the "real" non internet) world around all sorts of people. The vocal Bernie supporters I know I'RL are the LEAST likely people I could ever imagine attacking "POC" (or anyone else for that matter)
I'm not a PoC(as far as I know, neither are you...if you are, I'd stand corrected) and don't claim to be inside the heads of PoC voters.
Theories I buy into(none of which I originated)
1) Greater name-familiarity(which accounts for HRC support among most whites who support her) could be one factor;
2) The "ONLY HRC is 'electable'" myth(which, as I said, is now discredited by the polls showing Bernie beating most or all GOP candidates) likely plays a major role;
3) The perception that HRC is "more qualified" which is debatable, given that Bernie has a longer political career than her);
4) Communication mistakes on the part of Bernie's campaign(which have now been corrected), combined with relentless misrepresentations of Bernie's positions on race(especially the endless repetition of the claim that Bernie believed ending economic inequality would end racism all by itself), and delays in responding to both of those problems on the part of the campaign;
5) Ill-tempered responses to PoC in online forums by people purporting to be Sanders supporters (some of which are likely to either be provocateurs working for other candidates or simply trolls);
6) A general perception in the AA community that President Obama will probably endorse HRC.
Those are the things that I would guess.
Do you reject any of those theories?
BTW, there is a huge difference between saying you can't understand why PoC would support HRC, on the one hand(as a lot of Bernie supporters, some of them PoC themselves, have said, and saying that PoC are stupid for doing so. Questioning why a group of people might hold the views they hold is not the same thing as insulting that group.)
... so most people who support HRC do so because of "greater name familiarity"? You lost me right there. That is one of the most ludicrous memes in this whole primary cycle.
While the average voter is not a political junkie like we are, I doubt they are basing their support on "I recognize her name and her face, I know who she is," and nothing more.
"The perception that HRC is "more qualified" which is debatable, given that Bernie has a longer political career than her)."
Seriously? You think BS is arguably 'more qualified' due to how many years he's put in? You honestly think that HRC's experience as First Lady of Arkansas, First Lady of the US, a NY senator and SoS doesn't far outweigh Bernie's decades-long career serving office in one small state?
I'm going to stop there. Your points are -- shall we say, uh, less than compelling.
You're a good person!
Where?
How?
Attacked physically? Or like arguing strongly
