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Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 05:58 PM Nov 2015

Sanders announces that water is wet.

Clinton supporters immediately denounce wet waterists, insist all true democrats are dry waterists, note that Sanders is technically not a democrat thus proving that water is dry.

Two days later Clinton notes as an aside that water is actually wet.

Clinton supporters immediately announce that Sanders had 40 years to come to his wet waterism and that according to somebody on the internet he told somebody somewhere once that water might be not entirely wet because of ice.

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Sanders announces that water is wet. (Original Post) Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 OP
Two days later? More like 10 for her to come up with something like that. Motown_Johnny Nov 2015 #1
Sanders supporters denounce ice and steam as corporate conspiracies. NuclearDem Nov 2015 #2
LMAO iandhr Nov 2015 #23
And they still haven't figured out a way to promote Bernie without attacking Hillary... stevenleser Nov 2015 #24
Wet blanket award Ned_Devine Nov 2015 #28
Reality can be like that. nt stevenleser Nov 2015 #32
It can be when you go out of your way to be a wet blanket Ned_Devine Nov 2015 #34
Nope, reality doesn't go out of its way, it just is. nt stevenleser Nov 2015 #37
Channeling Jack Handey? ornotna Nov 2015 #42
Seriously. I mean, where do I go with this? Ned_Devine Nov 2015 #68
There is this other thing called "satire" LiberalLovinLug Nov 2015 #88
*cough* 2008 you agrees with Bernie fans *cough*... truebrit71 Nov 2015 #77
+1 BeanMusical Nov 2015 #95
Have you figured out how to promote Hillary without attacking Sanders? AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #78
And look at all the pushback you're getting for DARING to say that!! MADem Nov 2015 #79
SUCH bullshit. I don't even know how you can say such a thing. beerandjesus Nov 2015 #82
and yet... an hour has passed retrowire Nov 2015 #89
It really is surreal, isn't it? beerandjesus Nov 2015 #90
Still waiting.......... beerandjesus Nov 2015 #102
a tumbleweed blows by... retrowire Nov 2015 #103
I'm waiting for the attack that Sanders is a fraud on climate change jeff47 Nov 2015 #3
Surrogates say not many climate scientists at Bernie rallies HereSince1628 Nov 2015 #25
There would be a sea of pocket protectors, doing the wave. nt Snotcicles Nov 2015 #53
Or, there are climatologists at the Sanders rallies but dreamnightwind Nov 2015 #99
O'Malley announces a comprehensive water plan that is better than all other candidates FSogol Nov 2015 #4
Exactly. bravenak Nov 2015 #8
Sadly, exactly. nt MH1 Nov 2015 #22
"surrounded on one side" demwing Nov 2015 #35
I see what you did there. 99Forever Nov 2015 #72
Bernie supporters convinced Bernie invented water. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #5
Then he walked on it. upaloopa Nov 2015 #7
... JaneyVee Nov 2015 #11
Ah, a repeat of 2008. I seem to recall "Obama Messiah" references. Dodo Nov 2015 #16
Ah yes, making fun of Sanders supporters... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #40
Bullshit and tricks indeed. They just posted a clearly skewed poll that favors hillary. Bubzer Nov 2015 #48
Um, this entire OP is making fun of Clinton supporters. thucythucy Nov 2015 #52
Don't comment on the boat if you're going to be a dinghy. CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #56
Could be. thucythucy Nov 2015 #62
+1 Totally agree. BeanMusical Nov 2015 #96
Yup. It was bullshit then and it's bullshit now, although a telling bit of projection. n/t winter is coming Nov 2015 #60
As a Dem, that kind of post SHOULD be beneath you... thats something I expect from the GOP. Bubzer Nov 2015 #27
Welcome to the real world. The right has no corner on the "rudeness" market 7962 Nov 2015 #43
LOL!! Laser102 Nov 2015 #39
Waaaay older than Bernie or even Obama critics: remember this...? FailureToCommunicate Nov 2015 #46
Well thanks for all that upaloopa Nov 2015 #6
I remember the exasperated, shocked look on Hillary Clinton's face... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #55
You have 3 months to do what you haven't upaloopa Nov 2015 #65
Obama did it. Lordquinton Nov 2015 #67
The night Edwards finished 2nd to Hillary's 3rd in the Iowa Caucus... bvar22 Nov 2015 #91
Iowans are soft on Hillary... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #94
They're scared, that's all. And they really shouldn't be, Bernie will make a great president! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #9
Not true - Hillary has called it "damp" and "moist", but not "wet" jberryhill Nov 2015 #10
With what she knows *today*, Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #17
But all of the Republicans think it is bone dry jberryhill Nov 2015 #18
If water is still an issue when she is President, she'll tell us if it's wet or dry at that time./nt Maedhros Nov 2015 #19
Hehe. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2015 #38
But it's an idea worth considering. n/t bvf Nov 2015 #74
Sanders ship sinks.... BooScout Nov 2015 #12
you better hope not 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #44
+1 Bubzer Nov 2015 #49
+2. Nice! bvf Nov 2015 #75
this becomes a Wet Dream for the clown car olddots Nov 2015 #13
Was he LYING THEN....or lying NOW?????... bvf Nov 2015 #14
Bernie has power over water cosmicone Nov 2015 #15
Walking on it wasn't Jewish enough for you? Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #21
Moses parted the red sea cosmicone Nov 2015 #33
The Right used to show Obama riding a unicorn shooting out rainbows. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #54
Yep, the messiah meme was created by right wing assholes to insult liberals. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #66
That would be the right-wingers. beerandjesus Nov 2015 #84
I've been watching that closely myself. JimDandy Nov 2015 #98
and then the Hillary campaign announces this is the gold standard for water azurnoir Nov 2015 #20
ROFL SoapBox Nov 2015 #31
... Bubzer Nov 2015 #50
Meanwhile Lordquinton Nov 2015 #69
Alright, you win the thread. Volaris Nov 2015 #92
K&R TheFarS1de Nov 2015 #26
I was expecting to not like this demwing Nov 2015 #29
Oh! You are SO good! SoapBox Nov 2015 #30
K & R N/T w0nderer Nov 2015 #36
that's a pretty accurate 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #41
pointless infighting flame bait treestar Nov 2015 #45
Oo. Very bitter. Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #58
Precisely. 99Forever Nov 2015 #47
And the inevitable jury results: beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #51
Who alerted this? And I thought one of the other posters in this thread won the "wet blanket" award! Ned_Devine Nov 2015 #70
No idea. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #71
You can probably find them over at hillaryclintonsupporters.com beerandjesus Nov 2015 #86
There's always that one person, isn't there? Hydra Nov 2015 #73
A delightful OP and thread Autumn Nov 2015 #57
I enjoy satire when it's well done. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #59
Manny's is always superb, but after reading this I fear our dear Manny has competition Autumn Nov 2015 #61
I've been a Warren Stupidity fan for years! beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #63
This one is definitely worthy of notice. Autumn Nov 2015 #64
I'm sick of this false meme about how we evil Bernie supporters are driving PatrickforO Nov 2015 #76
SOME Hillary supporters are trying to manipulate the undecideds. That's all it is. stillwaiting Nov 2015 #80
Gotta drive that wedge in somehow. Otherwise we'd have to campaign on issues. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2015 #81
Bernie supporters are driving DU's *most conservative* posters to Hillary! For reals! nt Romulox Nov 2015 #83
None of DUs "most conservative" posters would support Bernie anyway. bvar22 Nov 2015 #100
Silly and a waste of time. lark Nov 2015 #85
This is perfect! Good job. n/t sammythecat Nov 2015 #87
In his announcement he proclaimed several times..... George II Nov 2015 #93
In other news: Doc Holliday Nov 2015 #97
This shows exactly why Bernie will never get the snow vote!!! grahamhgreen Nov 2015 #101
 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
24. And they still haven't figured out a way to promote Bernie without attacking Hillary...
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 08:34 PM
Nov 2015

... ensuring that for every convert they get, four Democrats are permanently turned off to Bernie.

 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
68. Seriously. I mean, where do I go with this?
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 09:58 PM
Nov 2015

I might as well just let this person think that he/she is right and just move on. See? I'm NOT a wet blanket

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
88. There is this other thing called "satire"
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 02:37 PM
Nov 2015

look it up.

It is based on reality (ie. Hillary suddenly adopting more progressive positions that Bernie has had all along).

But then the more nuanced aspects of comedy are a little difficult to grasp for the simple authoritarian minds among us.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
77. *cough* 2008 you agrees with Bernie fans *cough*...
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:00 AM
Nov 2015

Better fire up that DeLorean pal, because no-one is buying the shit you're pedaling in 2015....

MADem

(135,425 posts)
79. And look at all the pushback you're getting for DARING to say that!!
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:17 AM
Nov 2015

Never mind that your statement was entirely true!

If you aren't "feeling the Bern" then you're gonna get a talking to, doncha know!!! There can be only ONE POV here! Anyone who talks back and gets smart will be taken to the woodshed--in humorless fashion, too!



Poor, poor Bernie--his "supporters" are his worst enemies. Even though he can be a bit scolding and pointing at times, he comes off like a Happy Warrior compared to his excoriating fans. The whole "trash Clinton to elevate Sanders" theme is growing stale, though. They're gonna have to come up with a new schtick.

beerandjesus

(1,301 posts)
82. SUCH bullshit. I don't even know how you can say such a thing.
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 02:03 PM
Nov 2015

I've been waiting, and waiting, and waiting to hear ONE fucking reason to vote for Hillary. All I get is "she's a FIGHTER! it's HER TURN! what are you, SEXIST?" And any time--I mean, ANY fucking time a Bernie supporter tries to nail a Hillary supporter on a specific issue, said Hillary supporter magically disappears, presumably to hillaryclintonsupporters.com to plan the next slander on Bernie.

So here's your chance: Give me ONE fucking reason to support Hillary over Bernie. ONE. And remember, I said Hillary over BERNIE, not Hillary over Republican X, so you can't say SCOTUS, abortion rights, or anything else like that that we liberals generally consider to be the absolute bare minimum.

I'm seriously hoping for something good here.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
89. and yet... an hour has passed
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:42 PM
Nov 2015

and no one has vetted for Hillary to you.

here my friend... berniesanders.com / feelthebern.org are both great resources to learn all about where Bernie stands on the issues that affect Americans today.

if you have ANY questions about Bernie, just ask.

*sprouts wings and flutters away*

beerandjesus

(1,301 posts)
90. It really is surreal, isn't it?
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:44 PM
Nov 2015

Just ONE reason. I'm getting kinda obsessed. I really want to know if there's even ONE.

Other than "it's HER TURN!" of course.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
25. Surrogates say not many climate scientists at Bernie rallies
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 08:35 PM
Nov 2015

Argument ensues that of course doesn't take into account the paucity of climatologists in the population.

Surrogates counter, nonetheless, if the climatologists -REALLY- supported Sanders they'd show up and fill an arena section

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
99. Or, there are climatologists at the Sanders rallies but
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 05:56 PM
Nov 2015

none of them are people of color. Not good enough Bernie all over again.

FSogol

(45,485 posts)
4. O'Malley announces a comprehensive water plan that is better than all other candidates
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 06:08 PM
Nov 2015

Last edited Mon Nov 9, 2015, 07:02 PM - Edit history (1)

plans, but he is largely ignored. His water plan builds on his watery accomplishments as Governor of Maryland, a State both containing and surrounded on one side by water.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
35. "surrounded on one side"
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 08:44 PM
Nov 2015

I thought this was hilarious, then I searched it on Google and found it's more widely used than I thought,

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
40. Ah yes, making fun of Sanders supporters...
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 08:50 PM
Nov 2015

The Clinton camp did this to Obama supporters too. We were positioned as young, college-aged kids who didn't know what they were doing.

When you don't have a popular, clear agenda--and when the bulk of your campaign is funded by your corporate sugar daddies--this is what you do.

When you're a pro-war, neocon who Robert Kagan (a neocon kingpin) praises--this is what you do.

You must try real hard to crush your opponent's supporters and position them as ignorant goofballs. It's the equivalent of an eighth grader telling you to stop hanging around whatshername--because she's sooo not cool.

Maybe we'll feel so bad about ourselves that we'll be so demoralized, and we won't have the strength or the motivation to vote.

It's all about bullshit and tricks with Hillary Clinton.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
48. Bullshit and tricks indeed. They just posted a clearly skewed poll that favors hillary.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 09:00 PM
Nov 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251786905
The poll itself states:
Hillary Clinton was rated by a random subset of 801 Democrats and
Bernie Sanders by 764 Democrats during this period.


But somehow, this poll is considered legitimate...

thucythucy

(8,052 posts)
52. Um, this entire OP is making fun of Clinton supporters.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 09:16 PM
Nov 2015

Lighten up. The OP was meant to be satire (I assume) and people are responding in kind.

Don't post about water if you can't stand the wet.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
56. Don't comment on the boat if you're going to be a dinghy.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 09:34 PM
Nov 2015

Seriously. While you were standing in the boat, commenting about water, wetness and ice cubes, another conversation started.

I may need to lighten up, but I think your neurons are waterlogged.



thucythucy

(8,052 posts)
62. Could be.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 09:42 PM
Nov 2015

On the other hand, it looks to me like you want to change the tone in the middle of the discussion.

First--begin with an OP that satirizes Hillary supporters (and BTW I think the OP is hilarious and very well done).

Then, get all serious and sanctimonious when the other side replies in kind.

Pot and kettle and all that.

Really, we all need to lighten up some, and I think this OP does a great job of satire without some of the venom I've seen from both sides.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
43. Welcome to the real world. The right has no corner on the "rudeness" market
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 08:54 PM
Nov 2015

People right here can be equally rude and vicious.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,014 posts)
46. Waaaay older than Bernie or even Obama critics: remember this...?
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 08:58 PM
Nov 2015

"This is an actual Saturday Night Live monologue from Rev. Jesse Jackson, way back in season 10. He was commenting on how difficult it was to get the press to write a favorable article about him, and then he told this joke.

-- One day Jesse Jackson and the pope was riding this boat. While they were riding the boat, a stiff wind came along and blew the pope's holy cap[sic] off. The pope reached for it and couldn't get it and Jesse Jackson couldn't get it and they said "well what happens now?" Jesse Jackson got up and walked across the water, got the pope's cap, and brought it back and the pope was grateful. He's a very gracious man and he put his cap back on. The press was riding in the next boat over and they start typing about this miraculous event. The next morning the headlines read "Jesse can't swim." --

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
6. Well thanks for all that
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 06:11 PM
Nov 2015

I think we are getting bored waiting for Hillary to be nominated. We have all this anti Bernie fodder to fire from our big guns should he over take Hillary but looks like most of it will go to waste.
At least you can keep us engaged.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
55. I remember the exasperated, shocked look on Hillary Clinton's face...
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 09:25 PM
Nov 2015

...when she came in third in Iowa in the 2008 Iowa caucuses.

She was "inevitable" right up until she wasn't.

You Clinton supporters are going to need some extra lovin after Bernie wins in Iowa and NH. She was able to pull off a win in NH, but Bernie has been consistently ahead in NH.

Don't worry. Us Bernie supporters will catch you when you fall.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
91. The night Edwards finished 2nd to Hillary's 3rd in the Iowa Caucus...
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:48 PM
Nov 2015

...was a night to remember.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
94. Iowans are soft on Hillary...
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 05:01 PM
Nov 2015

Most people don't understand the underlying dynamics in Iowa. Iowa Democrats are extremely Progressive, and there is a very large Progressive contingent within the Iowa Democratic party. This is how Obama won the Iowa caucuses.

Furthermore, it is why Hillary came in third in the caucuses, the last time around.

She does not politic well here in our state. She's canned, corporate and everyone understands (despite her recent running to the left) that she is not a true Progressive. Now, if this was a Southern state where people are more moderate or conservative, I would say that Hillary would have a better chance. But that's not the case in Iowa.

The majority of Iowa Democrats are looking for any reason to support anyone but Hillary.

Sanders was beating her in Iowa, during the late summer. However, now the tide has shifted and she's winning by 15 points now. This is still a competitive race. Hillary seems to have hit the apex of her "inevitability" and she could see major poll losses as the Feb 1 Iowa caucuses draw near.

Bernie is laying the foundation in other states. He's got some work to do in Iowa. When he was here in the summer, he drew extremely large crowds. He just needs to return back to the state and get his campaign into forth gear. I'm sure that's what he'll do.

Ground game is important too and I think Sanders will have the edge in that arena. Sanders supporters are young, energetic and there are a lot of them. This is the base of the party that does most of the work.

I saw what happened to Obama in Iowa. I had front-row seats. Clinton was gobsmacked by her third place. Obama slowly ramped up and Iowans were drawn to him. There's no reason to believe that won't happen again. People need to remember that Obama's ascendance in Iowa had as much to do with his incredible campaign--as it did about Iowans being very soft in their support for Hillary. This dynamic could easily happen again.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
19. If water is still an issue when she is President, she'll tell us if it's wet or dry at that time./nt
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 08:27 PM
Nov 2015
 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
14. Was he LYING THEN....or lying NOW?????...
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 06:53 PM
Nov 2015

...so somebody here must...excuse me...too many conversations to KEEP TRACK of...present or PAST TENSE???....

WHY cant I get A straight ANSWER from anyONE????

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
66. Yep, the messiah meme was created by right wing assholes to insult liberals.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 09:51 PM
Nov 2015

Interesting to see who's using it this time around.


SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
30. Oh! You are SO good!
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 08:40 PM
Nov 2015


3, 2, 1...to the Alert that you are in violation of the TOS, for something to do with water!

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
51. And the inevitable jury results:
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 09:13 PM
Nov 2015
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
Mail Message
On Mon Nov 9, 2015, 08:06 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Sanders announces that water is wet.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251786874

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Divisive flamebait.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Nov 9, 2015, 08:12 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Agree with alert.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Divisive to whom? There are so many things to divide us but this isn't one of them...
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Silly but not hide worthy.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Oh please, enough with the faux pearl clutching. Stop alert stalking Bernistas.



I'm going to rec the op just because I can.





beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
71. No idea.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 10:09 PM
Nov 2015

Whoever it is should use the trash thread feature instead of trying to ruin it for the rest of us.

Autumn

(45,085 posts)
61. Manny's is always superb, but after reading this I fear our dear Manny has competition
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 09:42 PM
Nov 2015
Serious competition.

PatrickforO

(14,574 posts)
76. I'm sick of this false meme about how we evil Bernie supporters are driving
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 01:16 AM
Nov 2015

people away from Bernie.

I'm sorry, but I'm calling BULLSHIT on that position.

The thing is, I'm gonna look at where each candidate stands on the issues and vote my best interest. The general obnoxiousness of that candidate's supporters only makes up a teeny-tiny bit of that decision.

Though, I should point out that I do look at surrogates and I pay attention to what is said. When I see wedges being driven, then I fight back for my own candidate. See, because it's the Clinton people yelling the loudest about this, but the reality is we all tend to be the most critical of other people who mirror our own faults, and I'm seeing some serious wedges being driven.

Clinton in my opinion isn't a stateswoman. She cares more about being elected than she does about us, and she says whatever she thinks she has to to make that happen. And, her campaign actively uses surrogates to do the dirty work. And we've heard it all: oh, he's a socialist. He's unelectable. He has problems with African Americans. He has problems with Hispanics. His supporters are old white male liberals who drive Volvos. Just a bunch of wedges and dirty politics.

But you know what? Bernie keeps on talking about the real issues. And I keep on supporting him. I'm sick of oligarchs pissing down my back and telling me its raining. I want some serious economic justice. I want the corporations to pay their fair share of taxes. I want us to rebuild our infrastructure and aggressively pursue renewable energy. I want my children and grandchildren to have free tuition at state colleges. I want single payer healthcare. I want the Social Security payroll tax cap removed so that Social Security can remain strong for my generation and the next two. I want the drug war ended and prisons de-privatized.

So am I evil? Am I alienating people so they don't support Bernie?

I think not.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
80. SOME Hillary supporters are trying to manipulate the undecideds. That's all it is.
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 08:31 AM
Nov 2015

They are actively trying to paint Bernie supporters (and they are lumping ALL of us together - bless their hearts) as horribly bad people. Racist! Sexist! Eats their boogers!

Now, who would want to be one of THOSE people!!

It's a political move, and it could work on some really tuned out and easily swayed individuals. I really don't think it will work on many people though. It's so transparent.

They can't really criticize Bernie on the issues very easily (Hillary is worse on just about all of them) so they paint his supporters as unhinged FREAKS. No one wants to be one of those people!

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
100. None of DUs "most conservative" posters would support Bernie anyway.
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 06:06 PM
Nov 2015

They can all go back to the Reagan Party where they came from.

Doc Holliday

(719 posts)
97. In other news:
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 05:36 PM
Nov 2015

GOP Presidential hopeful Ted Cruz (R-TX) appearing on Sean Hannity's broadcast responded that "...neither Sanders nor Clinton is an oceanographer. They should leave science to the scientists."

Fellow hopeful Donald Trump announced in a press conference that his (Trump's) water "will be bigger, deeper, and way wetter than anything those losers could come up with."

Former Florida Governor Jeb! Bush expressed the opinion that "the whole water thing really needs closer study."

Dr. Ben Carson's actual response was unclear; he started telling a long and meandering story about how he nearly drowned as a teenager.




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