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UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 10:52 AM Nov 2015

Stop Hillary! Vote no to a Clinton dynasty November 2014 issue Harper's Magazine

What is the case for Hillary (whose quasi-official website identifies her, in bold blue letters, by her first name only, as do millions upon millions of voters)? It boils down to this: She has experience, she’s a woman, and it’s her turn. It’s hard to find any substantive political argument in her favor. She has, in the past, been associated with women’s issues, with children’s issues — but she also encouraged her husband to sign the 1996 bill that put an end to the Aid to Families with Dependent Children program (AFDC), which had been in effect since 1935. Indeed, longtime Clinton adviser Dick Morris, who has now morphed into a right-wing pundit, credits Hillary for backing both of Bill’s most important moves to the center: the balanced budget and welfare reform.1 And during her subsequent career as New York’s junior senator and as secretary of state, she has scarcely budged from the centrist sweet spot, and has become increasingly hawkish on foreign policy.

What Hillary will deliver, then, is more of the same. And that shouldn’t surprise us. As wacky as it sometimes appears on the surface, American politics has an amazing stability and continuity about it. Obama, widely viewed as a populist action hero during the 2008 campaign, made no bones about his admiration for Ronald Reagan. The Gipper, he said,

changed the trajectory of America in a way that Richard Nixon did not and in a way that Bill Clinton did not. He put us on a fundamentally different path because the country was ready for it. I think they felt [that] with all the excesses of the Sixties and the Seventies, government had grown and grown, but there wasn’t much sense of accountability in terms of how it was operating.

http://harpers.org/archive/2014/10/stop-hillary-2/

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Stop Hillary! Vote no to a Clinton dynasty November 2014 issue Harper's Magazine (Original Post) UglyGreed Nov 2015 OP
Harper's circulation these days is about 240,000 MineralMan Nov 2015 #1
Hell of a lot more politically relevant than your posts here. n/t brentspeak Nov 2015 #15
Well, of course. But I don't pretend that my posts MineralMan Nov 2015 #20
Well, I stopped reading after the opening hit piece on Obama leftofcool Nov 2015 #2
"How's that hopey changey stuff working out for you?" NCTraveler Nov 2015 #3
Just a RW attack on Obama and Clinton. Nitram Nov 2015 #4
Doug Henwood UglyGreed Nov 2015 #6
If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck... Nitram Nov 2015 #7
Third Way, UglyGreed Nov 2015 #8
uhhh pinebox Nov 2015 #17
They just throw things out UglyGreed Nov 2015 #18
Exactly pinebox Nov 2015 #19
I got a good chuckle out of that, too. n/t brentspeak Nov 2015 #16
When I get replies UglyGreed Nov 2015 #5
"How's that hopey changey stuff working out for you?" leftofcool Nov 2015 #9
When I see quotes from Sarah Palin in support of a writer's point of view, Nitram Nov 2015 #11
I get annoyed Nonhlanhla Nov 2015 #10
I wish Obama had studied more FDR & LBJ..... bvar22 Nov 2015 #12
This is a pathetic hitpiece. Arkana Nov 2015 #13
Stopped reading pretty quickly... Flying Squirrel Nov 2015 #14

MineralMan

(146,314 posts)
1. Harper's circulation these days is about 240,000
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 10:56 AM
Nov 2015

It stopped being relevant, politically, a long time ago.

MineralMan

(146,314 posts)
20. Well, of course. But I don't pretend that my posts
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 10:11 AM
Nov 2015

will change anything. I still make them, though, as do you.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
3. "How's that hopey changey stuff working out for you?"
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 11:08 AM
Nov 2015

Didn't need to go any further than that. One of the most painful things to watch with declining print media is people writing for Walmart like compensation. This is what you end up with.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
8. Third Way,
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 11:18 AM
Nov 2015

Last edited Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:14 PM - Edit history (1)

DLC and New Democrats, it walks like Hillary forget the duck

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
17. uhhh
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 12:58 AM
Nov 2015

Doug Henwood (born December 7, 1952) is an American journalist, economic analyst, and financial trader who writes frequently about economic affairs. He publishes a newsletter, Left Business Observer, that analyzes economics and politics from a left-wing perspective, is co-owner and co-editor, along with Phillipa Dunne, of The Liscio Report, an independent newsletter focusing on macroeconomic analysis, and is a contributing editor at The Nation.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
10. I get annoyed
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 11:20 AM
Nov 2015

I get annoyed when a woman's qualifications are so easily dismissed. What qualifies ANYONE to run for president? "Oh, he's been a governor/senator" ... sure, he's qualified to run. "Oh, she's only been a senator/Secretary of State" ...not qualified.

Agree or disagree with her, but if an article starts the way this one has, it's sexist underpants are sticking out.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
12. I wish Obama had studied more FDR & LBJ.....
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 12:53 PM
Nov 2015

...and LESS Reagan.
They both "changed the trajectory of America" .... but in a GOOD way.

 

Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
14. Stopped reading pretty quickly...
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 12:22 AM
Nov 2015

"[Obama] kills suspected terrorists whom his predecessor would merely have tortured."

Merely?

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