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wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 08:58 PM Nov 2015

The Obama Campaign Remembers 2012 Very Differently Than Bernie Sanders

Confronted with his support for a progressive challenge to Obama in 2011, Sanders said Saturday he “campaigned very hard” for Obama in 2008 and 2012. That’s not how Obama aides remember it.

In 2011, Sanders said more than once that a challenge from the left might help President Obama get back on track after, Sanders said, the president had veered far to the right, selling out the left on issues like entitlement programs in the interests of cutting deals with Republican leaders. At one point, he Sanders said he was “giving thought” to encouraging a progressive to run against Obama, telling a radio caller, “I don’t want to tell you more than that, but this is an issue we are beginning to talk about a little bit.”

As he mounts his own bid for the Democratic nomination this year, Sanders is having to thread the needle of his past independence. In South Carolina on Saturday, Sanders rejected the idea that he was less than loyal to Obama in 2012 — something that Martin O’Malley, who is running in a distant third place in the nomination fight, suggested on Friday night and has this year on the trail. (O’Malley has his own problems casting himself as an Obama loyalist; he was among Clinton’s most fervent supporters in 2008.)

Sanders’s response on Saturday was unequivocal: He said he was a strong advocate for Obama’s election and reelection.
“I think contested elections are not a bad thing, but the idea that I worked against President Obama is untrue,” Sanders said at a press conference. “In fact, I vigorously supported him in 2008, he came to my state in 2006. I campaigned for him in 2008, I campaigned for him very hard in 2012, and I never made any effort to enlist a candidate against him.”

Senior officials on Obama’s 2008 and 2012 campaigns did not remember the cycles the same way when it came to Sanders. BuzzFeed News talked to four senior officials from Obama’s campaigns, most of whom are unaligned in the 2016 primary.
Their take on Sanders’ role: In 2008, he got on board with Obama late. In 2012, he was either attacking the president from the left or doing little to get him elected. As for “vigorously” supporting him, they said, Sanders was not someone they thought of as a top surrogate.

“Every indication we had was that he was considering a primary challenge,” said one senior official from Obama’s 2012 campaign.

“Being annoying,” another said when asked to recall how they remembered Sanders in 2012.

A third senior Obama campaign aide from 2012 said Sanders was simply not often top of mind.

“Have no recollection of him being any kind of factor whatsoever, supporter or not,” the aide said in an email to BuzzFeed News.
The Sanders campaign declined to respond to the Obama campaign comments.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/the-obama-campaign-remembers-2012-very-differently-from-bern#.oyx1rvpK5A
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The Obama Campaign Remembers 2012 Very Differently Than Bernie Sanders (Original Post) wyldwolf Nov 2015 OP
What's funny about this whole thing... Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #1
Indeed. iandhr Nov 2015 #9
And, bernie's denying it ever happened. Cha Nov 2015 #24
So is the issue that he said Obama should have a primary challenger? bobbobbins01 Nov 2015 #2
Boy really working this one UglyGreed Nov 2015 #3
Yep, when you got nothing... HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #7
Hillary supporters are really getting desperate! Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #4
I think Bernie was right kacekwl Nov 2015 #5
That changes my mind in terms of what the percentage chance is of Obama endorsing early. stevenleser Nov 2015 #6
Obama won't endorse in the primary period. askew Nov 2015 #11
I can't read minds but even though he'd probably like to endorse before the primary is over I Cha Nov 2015 #25
If I had to put a percentage chance, as I said, I would still say less than 50%. But... stevenleser Nov 2015 #29
No, and I'm so glad it came back to bite him in 2015 and Gov O'Malley called him on it at the Dem Cha Nov 2015 #32
He was right. Obama should have been primaried. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #8
I find it interesting that you wanted President Romney... MohRokTah Nov 2015 #10
The only time a President was primaryed, their party held the White House jfern Nov 2015 #12
Jimmy Carter and George H.W. Bush both disagree with you. eom MohRokTah Nov 2015 #13
They were both renominated jfern Nov 2015 #14
They both had primary challenges. MohRokTah Nov 2015 #15
Everyone has primary challenges jfern Nov 2015 #16
Nixon didn't, Reagan didn't, Clinton didn't, George W. Bush didn't. MohRokTah Nov 2015 #17
I just said that Nixon only got 87% in the primaries jfern Nov 2015 #18
There was no challenger to Nixon in the primaries. eom MohRokTah Nov 2015 #19
LOL, busted jfern Nov 2015 #20
LOL!!!! Counting them is like counting Lyndon LaRouche!!! MohRokTah Nov 2015 #21
87% isn't that high jfern Nov 2015 #22
. MohRokTah Nov 2015 #23
that's better than Obama did in the West Virginia Primary in 2012 JI7 Nov 2015 #33
"what Bernie had in mind" brooklynite Nov 2015 #34
Well, Nxon, Reagan, Clinton and Dbya certainlly should have. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #27
Disingenuous of Bernie - he was in the Senate and should know what it was like there treestar Nov 2015 #26
Yes he did and he voted for the ACA like most of us would have. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #28
too bad the Obama campaign ibegurpard Nov 2015 #30
Opposing their plan to cut Social Security was "annoying." Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #31
I certainly remember 2012 well davidpdx Nov 2015 #35
 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
1. What's funny about this whole thing...
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 09:02 PM
Nov 2015

is that many of Bernie's supporters on DU were calling for Obama to be primaried in 2012.

Now that he's running for the Democratic nomination, Bernie and his supporters are running away from their previous position.

Too funny.

bobbobbins01

(1,681 posts)
2. So is the issue that he said Obama should have a primary challenger?
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 09:04 PM
Nov 2015

Or that he didn't work hard enough to get him elected?

I'm not understanding what the point is...

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
3. Boy really working this one
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 09:06 PM
Nov 2015

huh??? What is this 87th thread on this subject talk about trying to drive a point across

kacekwl

(7,017 posts)
5. I think Bernie was right
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 10:00 PM
Nov 2015

I didn't vote for a conservative right leaning president but seem like that's what we got.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
6. That changes my mind in terms of what the percentage chance is of Obama endorsing early.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 10:05 PM
Nov 2015

Before seeing the comments from the aides, I would have thought the chance of Obama endorsing Hillary before she clinched the nomination was close to zero.

Now I think it's at 30-40%.

Cha

(297,253 posts)
25. I can't read minds but even though he'd probably like to endorse before the primary is over I
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 08:49 AM
Nov 2015

think he'll let it play out.

'Cause you know whomever he endorses would sky rocket.

Happy Birthday, Steven.. late to the

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
29. If I had to put a percentage chance, as I said, I would still say less than 50%. But...
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 08:14 PM
Nov 2015

Bernie certainly did himself no favors with the primary bullshit in 2012.

Cha

(297,253 posts)
32. No, and I'm so glad it came back to bite him in 2015 and Gov O'Malley called him on it at the Dem
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 10:49 PM
Nov 2015

Forum. Booom.

Instead of owing it Bernie is trying to weasel out of.. not going to happen with the Black Folks I've been reading online or with me.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
10. I find it interesting that you wanted President Romney...
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 10:29 PM
Nov 2015

since the ultimate outcome of primarying a sitting president is to lose the white house.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
16. Everyone has primary challenges
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 11:32 PM
Nov 2015

In 1972, Nixon only got 87% of the vote in the primary. He went on to win 49 states.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
17. Nixon didn't, Reagan didn't, Clinton didn't, George W. Bush didn't.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 11:34 PM
Nov 2015

Fortunately, Barack Obama didn't, either.

Oh, and Gerald Ford did have a primary challenger. He went on to lose the GE.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
22. 87% isn't that high
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 11:40 PM
Nov 2015

And he only got 68% in NH.
He had 2 sitting members of Congress challenging him.
I think challenges like this might have been what Bernie had in mind.
Again Nixon won 49 states.

brooklynite

(94,581 posts)
34. "what Bernie had in mind"
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 09:01 AM
Nov 2015

An inconsequential challenger that wouldn't require Obama to change any of his positions? That's what Bernie wanted?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
26. Disingenuous of Bernie - he was in the Senate and should know what it was like there
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 09:00 AM
Nov 2015

Did he push for single payer?

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
28. Yes he did and he voted for the ACA like most of us would have.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 09:04 AM
Nov 2015

It wasn't an either ACA or Single Payer. It was an either ACA or nothing at the time.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
30. too bad the Obama campaign
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 08:16 PM
Nov 2015

Doesn't remember their own candidate. I liked that guy a lot better than the one who took office.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
31. Opposing their plan to cut Social Security was "annoying."
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 08:20 PM
Nov 2015

We should have all cheered as Obama tried to make a Grand Bargain with John Boehner to cut our Social Security (sarcasm).

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
35. I certainly remember 2012 well
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 10:39 AM
Nov 2015

I was involved in the campaign and never heard a whisper about a challenge to Obama other than the idiot in jail that got a few thousand votes in one state.

These are tall tales coming from the Clinton campaign, the same campaign that tried to smear Obama in 2012 both directly and indirectly.

No, but wait. Their response will be we are suppose to put it behind us.

Oh the hypocrisy!

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