2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe Obama Campaign Remembers 2012 Very Differently Than Bernie Sanders
Confronted with his support for a progressive challenge to Obama in 2011, Sanders said Saturday he campaigned very hard for Obama in 2008 and 2012. Thats not how Obama aides remember it.In 2011, Sanders said more than once that a challenge from the left might help President Obama get back on track after, Sanders said, the president had veered far to the right, selling out the left on issues like entitlement programs in the interests of cutting deals with Republican leaders. At one point, he Sanders said he was giving thought to encouraging a progressive to run against Obama, telling a radio caller, I dont want to tell you more than that, but this is an issue we are beginning to talk about a little bit.
As he mounts his own bid for the Democratic nomination this year, Sanders is having to thread the needle of his past independence. In South Carolina on Saturday, Sanders rejected the idea that he was less than loyal to Obama in 2012 something that Martin OMalley, who is running in a distant third place in the nomination fight, suggested on Friday night and has this year on the trail. (OMalley has his own problems casting himself as an Obama loyalist; he was among Clintons most fervent supporters in 2008.)
Sanderss response on Saturday was unequivocal: He said he was a strong advocate for Obamas election and reelection.
I think contested elections are not a bad thing, but the idea that I worked against President Obama is untrue, Sanders said at a press conference. In fact, I vigorously supported him in 2008, he came to my state in 2006. I campaigned for him in 2008, I campaigned for him very hard in 2012, and I never made any effort to enlist a candidate against him.
Senior officials on Obamas 2008 and 2012 campaigns did not remember the cycles the same way when it came to Sanders. BuzzFeed News talked to four senior officials from Obamas campaigns, most of whom are unaligned in the 2016 primary.
Their take on Sanders role: In 2008, he got on board with Obama late. In 2012, he was either attacking the president from the left or doing little to get him elected. As for vigorously supporting him, they said, Sanders was not someone they thought of as a top surrogate.
Every indication we had was that he was considering a primary challenge, said one senior official from Obamas 2012 campaign.
Being annoying, another said when asked to recall how they remembered Sanders in 2012.
A third senior Obama campaign aide from 2012 said Sanders was simply not often top of mind.
Have no recollection of him being any kind of factor whatsoever, supporter or not, the aide said in an email to BuzzFeed News.
The Sanders campaign declined to respond to the Obama campaign comments.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/the-obama-campaign-remembers-2012-very-differently-from-bern#.oyx1rvpK5A
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)is that many of Bernie's supporters on DU were calling for Obama to be primaried in 2012.
Now that he's running for the Democratic nomination, Bernie and his supporters are running away from their previous position.
Too funny.
iandhr
(6,852 posts)But facts don't matter to those folks.
Cha
(297,253 posts)bobbobbins01
(1,681 posts)Or that he didn't work hard enough to get him elected?
I'm not understanding what the point is...
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)huh??? What is this 87th thread on this subject talk about trying to drive a point across
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)Create something! Who cares about the issues, right?
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Read what Bernie actually said for a change
kacekwl
(7,017 posts)I didn't vote for a conservative right leaning president but seem like that's what we got.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Before seeing the comments from the aides, I would have thought the chance of Obama endorsing Hillary before she clinched the nomination was close to zero.
Now I think it's at 30-40%.
askew
(1,464 posts)He has way too much respect for the primary process.
Cha
(297,253 posts)think he'll let it play out.
'Cause you know whomever he endorses would sky rocket.
Happy Birthday, Steven.. late to the
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Bernie certainly did himself no favors with the primary bullshit in 2012.
Cha
(297,253 posts)Forum. Booom.
Instead of owing it Bernie is trying to weasel out of.. not going to happen with the Black Folks I've been reading online or with me.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)since the ultimate outcome of primarying a sitting president is to lose the white house.
jfern
(5,204 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)When you're primaried you lose renomination.l
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)They both lost the GE.
jfern
(5,204 posts)In 1972, Nixon only got 87% of the vote in the primary. He went on to win 49 states.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Fortunately, Barack Obama didn't, either.
Oh, and Gerald Ford did have a primary challenger. He went on to lose the GE.
jfern
(5,204 posts)I guess you don't care about the facts.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)And he only got 68% in NH.
He had 2 sitting members of Congress challenging him.
I think challenges like this might have been what Bernie had in mind.
Again Nixon won 49 states.
JI7
(89,250 posts)brooklynite
(94,581 posts)An inconsequential challenger that wouldn't require Obama to change any of his positions? That's what Bernie wanted?
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Did he push for single payer?
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)It wasn't an either ACA or Single Payer. It was an either ACA or nothing at the time.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Doesn't remember their own candidate. I liked that guy a lot better than the one who took office.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)We should have all cheered as Obama tried to make a Grand Bargain with John Boehner to cut our Social Security (sarcasm).
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I was involved in the campaign and never heard a whisper about a challenge to Obama other than the idiot in jail that got a few thousand votes in one state.
These are tall tales coming from the Clinton campaign, the same campaign that tried to smear Obama in 2012 both directly and indirectly.
No, but wait. Their response will be we are suppose to put it behind us.
Oh the hypocrisy!