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Catherina

(35,568 posts)
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 08:27 PM Nov 2015

Sanders2016 is critical. 'TPP is Worse Than I Thought' Sanders Says

Bad Trade Deal 'Worse Than I Thought,' Sanders Says
Thursday, November 5, 2015

WASHINGTON, Nov. 5 – Sen. Bernie Sanders issued the following statement today after the text of a proposed 12-nation trade deal, the Trans-Pacific Partnership, was made public.

"Now that the text of the Trans-Pacific Partnership has finally been released, it is even worse than I thought. It is clear to me that the proposed agreement is not, nor has it ever been, the gold standard of trade agreements.

"This trade deal would make it easier for corporations to shut down more factories in the U.S. and ship more jobs to Vietnam and Malaysia where workers are paid pennies an hour. The TPP is a continuation of our disastrous trade policies that have devastated manufacturing cities and towns all over this country from Newton, Iowa, to Cleveland, Ohio. We need to rebuild the disappearing middle class, not tear it down.

"The TPP would allow foreign corporations to sue federal, state and local governments in an international tribunal for passing an increase in the minimum wage or any other law that could hurt expected future profits.


"The agreement would threaten American laws that protect the safety of the drugs we take, the seafood we feed our families and the toys our kids play with every day.

"At a time when prescription drug prices are skyrocketing, the TPP would make a bad situation even worse by granting new monopoly rights to big pharmaceutical companies to deny access to lower cost generic drugs to millions of people.

"Outrageously, the proposed agreement includes violators of international human rights, like Brunei, where gays and single mothers can be stoned to death and Malaysia where tens of thousands of immigrant workers in the electronics industry are working as modern day slaves.

"I will do everything I can to defeat the TPP. We need trade policies in this country that work for the working families of our nation and not just the CEOs of large, multi-national corporations.”



http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/bad-trade-deal-worse-than-i-thought-sanders-says


Here's what Keith Ellison tweeted this morning

Rep. Keith Ellison @keithellison

#TPPWorseThanWeThought #TPP grants Big Phrma new monopolies to raise drug prices, rolls back even Bush trade pact access to meds reforms

https://twitter.com/keithellison/status/662270829401649152


The full text of the TPP is searchable here

On Thursday morning, after months of questions about the contents of the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal negotiated and championed by President Obama, his administration released the agreement in its complex entirety.

The problem, though, is that it was released as a series of posts on Medium -- and, worse, a collection of PDFs -- making it hard to search for topics across the entire document.

Allow us.

We created the tool below to allow you to search the full agreement (except annexes) and to link back to the original to read more. There's a lot in there, we'll note, and spellings are internationalized. (Labor becomes "labour," for example.) So it's still not a perfect system.

But at least you can see it and search it! Critics of the deal spent months arguing that it was a secret agreement, which it no longer is. And thanks to your friends at The Fix, it's now easier to see what's in it than the government might have intended.

....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/11/05/we-made-president-obamas-big-tpp-trade-deal-searchable/


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Sanders2016 is critical. 'TPP is Worse Than I Thought' Sanders Says (Original Post) Catherina Nov 2015 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #1
Keith Ellison: TPP is not progressive. It is a bad deal for working families. Full stop. Catherina Nov 2015 #2
Excellent information. Thank you! senz Nov 2015 #28
Thanks Senz. That's really kind Catherina Nov 2015 #36
K/R UglyGreed Nov 2015 #3
it's truly sad what so many are willing to settle for stupidicus Nov 2015 #4
IMHO, it's stunning. (nt) senz Nov 2015 #29
Hahaha, retrowire Nov 2015 #5
Gold standard is also consistent with Obama's characterization of TPP HereSince1628 Nov 2015 #20
We're fucked JRLeft Nov 2015 #6
That's all we've been trying to say for soooooo long. Phlem Nov 2015 #7
She's a Saint! How dare you? BeanMusical Nov 2015 #15
Long as I live, much as zentrum Nov 2015 #8
and their payed underlings. Phlem Nov 2015 #9
And unpaid apologists Armstead Nov 2015 #21
+1 Phlem Nov 2015 #22
Why Did Obama Destroy His Legacy With This Sucky Ass Deal - I Don't Understand Yallow Nov 2015 #10
For those sweet-ass six-figure speaking engagements. frylock Nov 2015 #13
Oh I hope not. I want to think more highly of him. senz Nov 2015 #31
Maybe It's All Part of the Deal MsLeopard Nov 2015 #14
He's assuring his future is very comfy. 840high Nov 2015 #17
At what cost to the American (and other) people? senz Nov 2015 #32
Biden, Sanders are living fairly low-key 840high Nov 2015 #34
There's this thing called the Third Way. Phlem Nov 2015 #23
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Nov 2015 #11
don't worry TheFarseer Nov 2015 #12
K & R AzDar Nov 2015 #16
It's clear to me now, Unknown Beatle Nov 2015 #18
Doomed. SoapBox Nov 2015 #19
Obama's legacy: Selling us out and destroying what's left of CharlotteVale Nov 2015 #24
Why is this on the Sanders for Senate web page? postatomic Nov 2015 #25
k & r. Thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Nov 2015 #26
There is more than a dime's worth of difference between these candidates (nt) Babel_17 Nov 2015 #27
Well, she was making "Hard Choices" that are now "Mistakes". Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #30
K & R -- excellent OP! senz Nov 2015 #33
Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Nov 2015 #35

Response to Catherina (Original post)

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
2. Keith Ellison: TPP is not progressive. It is a bad deal for working families. Full stop.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 08:45 PM
Nov 2015


Rep. Ellison Statement on Trans Pacific Partnership Text
Nov 5, 2015
Press Release

WASHINGTON – Rep. Ellison (D-MN) released the following statement today after the full text of the Trans Pacific Partnership was released online.

“Good trade deals put the priorities of working families ahead of corporate interests. Now that the text of the Trans-Pacific Partnership has finally been made public, Americans can see for themselves whose interests are prioritized when a trade deal is negotiated in secret with unprecedented input from multinational corporations.

“This is not “the most progressive trade deal ever negotiated.” A progressive trade deal would not ship American jobs overseas and cut worker’s pay back home. A progressive trade deal would protect international environmental regulations, not make it easier for countries to skirt around them. A progressive trade deal would ensure that lifesaving medicine stays affordable for the people who need it, not allow pharmaceutical corporations to jack up their prices and keep low-cost generic medications off the market.

“The TPP is not progressive – it is a bad deal for working families. I will continue to work to stop the TPP and make sure that any trade deal Congress approves prioritizes the American people over corporate profits.”


https://twitter.com/keithellison/status/662424113873555456


Congressman Keith Ellison Endorses Bernie Sanders for President

MINNEAPOLIS—Congressman Keith Ellison released the following statement today, announcing his endorsement of Senator Bernie Sanders for president:

“I am happy to support my friend and colleague Senator Bernie Sanders in his candidacy for president. For decades, Bernie has demonstrated a willingness to push for progressive ideas that will help American families and restore balance to our economy, which has favored the millionaires and billionaires for way too long. A founder of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, he is committed to investing in our education system and infrastructure, raising the minimum wage, addressing climate change, fixing our criminal justice system, reforming our financial markets, and pushing for peace and diplomacy abroad.

“Bernie knows that the power ultimately lies with the American people. And in a time where voter participation is at an all-time low, Bernie has shown that he has the ability to create a renaissance in civic participation by exciting those who are least likely to vote.

“Having stood with Bernie over the years on many different issues, including the Fight for $15, the effort to ban private prisons, and calling for the end of subsidies for Big Oil, I am proud to stand with him now.”

http://www.keithellison.org/news-clips/congressman-keith-ellison-endorses-bernie-sanders-president
 

senz

(11,945 posts)
28. Excellent information. Thank you!
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 03:14 PM
Nov 2015

Cathernina, you are one of the best. I know the general tenor of these forums can be irritating and disappointing, but you always bring it up to a higher level. I hope the Bernie campaign is aware of you. At the very least, you deserve gratitude and kudos, but you would be a serious asset to the campaign itself.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
36. Thanks Senz. That's really kind
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 06:52 PM
Nov 2015

especially from someone who rocks as much as you do. I try to do my small part Again, thank you!

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
5. Hahaha,
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:57 PM
Nov 2015

I just love the way he points out Hillary without saying her name. This man is a genius.

It is clear to me that the proposed agreement is not, nor has it ever been, the gold standard of trade agreements.


Who said it was the gold standard again?

Hillary.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
20. Gold standard is also consistent with Obama's characterization of TPP
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 11:19 PM
Nov 2015

It was supposed to be good for us, something that would confirm his loyalty and commitment to watching out for Americans.

Well, I suppose those Americans are stockholders in the international corporations that benefit...

Once again we seem to have been told things that don't square with a straight forward meaning of the words used to communicate with us.

That's not to say we've been lied to, but that we were purposefully not told the truth in plain language.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
7. That's all we've been trying to say for soooooo long.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:09 PM
Nov 2015

But Hillary helped write so it can't be all that bad right? I mean would she do that to us, no right?


BeanMusical

(4,389 posts)
15. She's a Saint! How dare you?
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:42 PM
Nov 2015

Numerous miracles were reported! Like that two legged man who grew a second limb after kissing Hollyllary's boots 3 times in less than 10 seconds, which was the time allowed by Her Holiness!

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
8. Long as I live, much as
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:10 PM
Nov 2015

….I see, I'll never cease being shocked by the attitudes and behavior of the super rich and powerful.

 

Yallow

(1,926 posts)
10. Why Did Obama Destroy His Legacy With This Sucky Ass Deal - I Don't Understand
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:18 PM
Nov 2015

I have supported our president through thick and thin.

He has not always done what I wanted but I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

I don't even blame him for not locking up half of Wall Street, because he would have had to do it almost on his own, even though they deserve doing time for all the crimes they committed.

Now he has destroyed his legacy with one more sucky deal where labor and environmentalists were completely ignored.

Insane.

Bad, bad, bad president Obama.

Another sellout to corporate scumbags.

And to think of how hard I worked to get you elected, and re-elected.

My bad......

MsLeopard

(1,265 posts)
14. Maybe It's All Part of the Deal
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:42 PM
Nov 2015

In so many respects I don't think Obama is at all worried about his legacy - it wasn't much to begin with, really. No single payer, not even a public option in Obamacare. He told his followers in 2008 after the election, "Thanks for the votes, I'll take it from here," then he went on to give Rethugs much of what they demanded. The poor are poorer now than when he came into office 6 1/2 years ago.

It seems to me, and my opinion only, that he's doing nothing now but cementing his position as a member of the elite .01% class, for when he leaves office.

No banksters have even been charged with a crime, even though they brought the world to its knees in 2008; appointing Holder and Geitner to cabinet positions assured that the criminal acts committed by these sociopath financiers would never be prosecuted.

The list goes on and on of what could have been, what we thought we were getting in 2008. And then under the bus so many of our issues went, with unheard of speed.

It's just how I see it.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
32. At what cost to the American (and other) people?
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 03:33 PM
Nov 2015

I cannot understand that motivation. Look at Biden, look at Bernie, and others -- it's possible to live a good life without great wealth. Any former office holder at that level will have a comfortable life. The greed that we see in Republicans and "conservative" Democrats, like the Clintons, is not normal. It's illness. I hope and pray that Obama has not fallen that low.

TheFarseer

(9,326 posts)
12. don't worry
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:24 PM
Nov 2015

President Hillary will make good show of speaking out against it before ultimately helping to pass it. Oh wait, that won't actually help

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
18. It's clear to me now,
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 11:17 PM
Nov 2015

that Obama wanted to gut Social Security and Medicare through his "Grand Bargain". He wasn't playing eleventh dimensional chess, the repugs are the ones that didn't want anything to do with what Obama proposed, not then, not ever, otherwise the grand bargain would have sailed through.

And now along comes Hillary, Mrs. Status Quo and beyond. Is it any wonder why Obama hand-picked Debbie Wasserman-Schultz? I really think it's because he knew that Wasserman-Schultz and Hillary are good friends and he also wanted the status quo.

If this passes and Obama signs it, we're totally fucked. People will be dying because they won't be able to afford their meds. And if Obama signs it into law, somewhere you'll be able to hear someone cackling with delight.

postatomic

(1,771 posts)
25. Why is this on the Sanders for Senate web page?
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 12:04 AM
Nov 2015

I would just think that it would reach more people if Sanders put it on his Sanders for President page. Just stuck me as a bit odd.

Carry on.

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