2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumO'Malley:Unlike Some Candidates, I Don't Consider Republicans My Enemies.
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'In the first Democratic primary debate, each candidate was asked to name an enemy they were proud to have made during their political careers. Hillary Clinton, the current frontrunner, named roughly half the country as her "enemy" when she replied " probably the Republicans."
Former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley, who is currently polling within the margin of error in nearly every national poll, thinks that Clinton's answer to that question is a sign that she is far too partisan and is unwilling to work with others on Capitol Hill. In a new piece published today on Yahoo! News, O'Malley tries to parlay himself as a middle-of-the-road Democrat, not an overly partisan or "ideologically extreme" candidate.
How can you pull people together when you declare up front that all Republicans are your enemies? he asked me, referring to Clintons striking comment in the first debate. Or when you hem and haw about whether or not you believe in capitalism?
I dont believe that all Republicans are my enemy. Theyre my neighbors. And I actually do believe in capitalism when its practiced in ways that encourage and defend fair competition and push back against the concentration of monopoly power as the big banks now enjoy it.
While it's all good and dandy that O'Malley doesn't see himself as being as "extreme" as his opponents, and that he's at least on paper open to working across the aisle, this rhetoric isn't resonating well with voters at all. It's rather telling that Clinton's comments regarding Republicans as her enemies barely made a blip on the national media compared to (the now dropped out) Jim Webb's remarks that he killed the Vietnamese soldier who threw a grenade at him.
As the second Democratic primary debate is on November 14, O'Malley had better hope that he is able to convey some kind of message to the voters--or else he'll become even more irrelevant than he already is.'
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2015/11/05/martin-omalley-unlike-some-candidates-i-dont-consider-republicans-my-enemies-n2076295
FSogol
(45,529 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)offering much more courtesy than Republican politicians actually deserve. But, his attitude is a notable difference, and perhaps it will help him.
"or else he'll become even more irrelevant than he already is." He's hardly "irrelevant". That's a cheap shot.
All things considered, I think he's doing extremely well. I'm confident that he's not going to the be the Democratic nominee, THIS TIME. But, I'm equally confident that with what he learns this time, and with being a possible VP contender, he's definitely going to be a major player in the future.
This is just the beginning for Martin O'Malley.
elleng
(131,129 posts)If I used twitter, I'd give her a piece of my mind.
valerief
(53,235 posts)That's their mission. Maybe there are some average (and stupid) voters who vote Republican and aren't aware of the party's mission. But a Republican dedicated to the Republican mission is the enemy of the people.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)It's getting ridiculous.
pretty foolish.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Oh well. Sanders moves up to my second choice.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)that statement was red meat. The moment she's sworn in she'll be working with them to enact their mutual master's agenda.
frylock
(34,825 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)His record is actually darn near flawless.
Here's just a small sample of his record (and he got it done by working with Republicans.)
https://martinomalley.com/bio/record/
Under Governor OMalley Maryland ranked #1 for innovation and entrepreneurship for three years in a row, according to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. Maryland also ranked as one of the top three states for economic mobility based on workers ability to move up the earnings ladder, according to the Pew Center on the States. And Maryland achieved a faster rate of job creation than its neighbors Virginia or Pennsylvania, who tried to cut their way to prosperity.
Raised Marylands Minimum Wage to $10.10
Governor OMalley brought people together, forged consensus, and raised Marylands minimum wage to $10.10. Hundreds of thousands of Maryland workers will receive a raise, creating stronger customers for local businesses and good-paying, family-supporting jobs.
Protected Working Families
Governor OMalley twice led the effort to expand Marylands refundable earned income credit, which puts more money in the pockets of working families. He also made Maryland the first state in America to pass a living wage for contractors working on state contracts.
Made the Tax Code More Progressive
In the midst of the worst economic downturn in history, Governor OMalley reformed Marylands income tax. Today, 86% of Marylanders pay less in state income taxes than they did before Governor OMalley took office.
elleng
(131,129 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)For the love of God, man, do you know the way to the exit??
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)Wait until he's been persecuted by the Republicans for 20+ years, called all kinds of names, endured witch hunt after witch hunt, had his spouse impeached by them for nonsense...
And of course, being a white man, in a certain sense the GOP is not his enemy the way it is the enemy of people of color and of women.
O'Malley lost me here. It's just a cheap shot against Hillary, as some of you already remarked. She is not SAYING the GOP are her enemies. They ARE.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Especially the progressive stuff that progressives like her get done?
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)No Democrat can get much done as long as the majority in Congress consists of Tea Party type Republicans. As long as Congress remains in their hands, the best we can realistically hope for is to have a Democratic president who can veto their BS.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)But he unfortunately still naive enough in the beginning to think the Republicans are his friends. Hillary at least knows that they are not.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)That's less than one veto a year.
http://www.senate.gov/reference/Legislation/Vetoes/vetoCounts.htm
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)My point was that that the best we can hope for as long as Congress is in the hands of the GOP, is to have a president who can veto crucial stuff if needed. Whether Obama used that sufficiently is not the point.
And my original point was even simpler: that it's easy for O'Malley to say that he does not view the Republicans as his enemies. They have not targeted him like they have targeted Hillary (or like they have targeted Obama, for that matter). Hillary is not the one who decided that the Republicans should be her enemies: THEY decided that, long ago, when this strong woman who did not fit the stereotype of the submissive woman first moved into the White House. And they have continued doing it, in all kinds of ways. like we recently saw with the Benghazi with trial. So yes, they are indeed her enemies. They hate her guts. They don't have a similar track record when it comes to O'Malley, so it's easy for him to take cheap shots at her and tell us he gets along with the Republicans. That will only last until 1 minute after he steps into the White House if he were to win. The moment they perceive him as a threat, they will become his enemies too, and then he would know what Hillary meant.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Not only Republicans, but also "the Iranians".
And when she was First Lady of Arkansas, she referred to people who were opposed to her "education reform" as "enemies"-- and that included my history teacher, who didn't like her version of "No Child Left Behind" being forced upon him and my former school, which had been one of the top public schools in the state.
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)She was ASKED. It was not merely a case of "fondness" for calling people enemies.
Arkansas stuff is ancient history, but yes, it would be unfortunate if she's too fond of calling people enemies.
The point still stands. It's easy for O'Malley to talk. He's not been persecuted by the GOP. He will be if he ever becomes president.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)but as someone who lived in the state at the time, it is not ancient history to me. It personally affected someone I had deep respect for, someone who was a dyed-in-the-wool yellow dog Democrat, who took me to my first Jefferson-Jackson Day dinner. And he was livid about "Hillary's meddling" as he put it. Not to mention being called an "enemy".
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paul ofnoclique
(81 posts)Unfortunately, the Republicans DO consider all us Dems as enemies. Mortal ones, at that.
bigtree
(86,005 posts)...I'm not there yet, but that's pretty much an imperative remark for someone looking to make a legislative imprint.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)and not getting my vote, unless by some act of god you get nominated.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)I dont believe that all Republicans are my enemy. Theyre my neighbors. And I actually do believe in capitalism when its practiced in ways that encourage and defend fair competition and push back against the concentration of monopoly power as the big banks now enjoy it.
Gee, that explanation of how you believe in capitalism sounds an awful lot like how Bernie Sanders believes in capitalism. Why not just say you don't believe in 'casino capitalism', O'Malley? Maybe it's not resonating with voters, because voters can see that you're not really all that different than the next guy when it comes to capitalism, even if he uses 'socialist' as part of his description of himself.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Todays_Illusion
(1,209 posts)non billionaire U.S. citizens. Or do you have a long list of the wonderful things they have done for the U.S.A. and the people of the U.S.A.?
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)O'Malley earns the coveted Reverse Freeper Seal of Approval, from poster baltiless on Free Republic:
Hear that, Clinton and Sanders campaigns? A certifiable RWNJ prefers either of you over O'Malley. That's gonna leave a mark.
Incidentally, I usually provide links to support my assertions, but I'm making an exception here. Go search FR yourself if you want to read their thread about O'Malley's comment.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Nice to know that to you they are good friends and allies. Little by little Martin shows his cards.