2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNew Hillary Clinton TV Ad Focuses on One Topic: Gun Violence
The spot would have been hard to imagine even four years ago a presidential candidate running a television ad featuring nothing but a stump speech about guns, a politically sensitive topic in many parts of the country.
But the ads are a reflection of both the Democratic Partys drift toward the urban left and a shift in the politics of the national debate over guns.
The spot is a clip from Mrs. Clinton speaking at a town-hall-style event during one of her campaign stops.
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/11/03/new-hillary-clinton-tv-ad-focuses-on-one-topic-gun-violence/
randys1
(16,286 posts)so now instead of debating the very legality of people owning hand guns, for instance, and how nobody needs to own one, we are discussing background checks, much less comprehensive to ending gun violence.
Like with voting, instead of NO you CANNOT require ID, we are discussing which KIND of ID!
They do this to us all the time.
It is sick
riversedge
(70,239 posts)Fearless
(18,421 posts)oasis
(49,388 posts)Vattel
(9,289 posts)She evolves so fast it makes your head spin like a top (notice the absence of any reference to the demonic).
randys1
(16,286 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Bernie Sanders does not fit the exact template on gun control, so he gets misrepresented as a supporter of the NRA. So she's focusing on this issue to increase that mosrepresentation.
Her own position on guns is garden variety mainstream....but she's trying to position herself as a crusader on the issue both to make Bernie look bad, and to seem like a fighter on an issue that's safe with the base she is appealing to....Easier than speaking out against Neoliberal Free Trade or the Banking Monopoly
randys1
(16,286 posts)act or think like a typical politician, and that is to his credit.
What I am dealing with is on one side millions of mostly Black Americans who will NOT be able to vote because they dont have the correct ID that is ILLEGALLY being required to vote, and on the other side, a plethora of Bernie supporters who are attacking Hillary so much that if she is the nominee it may have lasting negative effect.,
I am an actual liberal, socialist, who knows neither can effect real change for a very long time, but both can prevent dead bodies that are assured if the cons get in.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)But I'm not sure I understand what Clinton's campaign commercial has to do with voting rights or with Bernie supporters. Both support voting rights, and speak out against the GOP's restrictions
http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2015/10/17/in-alabama-clinton-blasts-gop-on-voting-rights
Near the heart of the civil rights movement, presidential hopeful Hillary Rodham Clinton roused black Alabama Democrats on Saturday with a pledge to champion voting rights and accusations that Republicans are dismantling generations of racial progress.Clinton criticized Alabama's Republican governor, Robert Bentley, for closing drivers licenses offices in 31 counties, many of them majority African-American. Alabama requires photo identification to vote. "This is a blast from the Jim Crow past," she told about 700 people at a luncheon of the Alabama Democratic Conference, the largest caucus of the state Democratic Party. Clinton also mocked Republican presidential candidates Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush for their opposition to restoring Voting Rights Act provisions struck down by the Supreme Court in 2013, and she chided Ohio Gov. John Kasich for curtailing early voting in his state. "What part of democracy are these Republicans so afraid of?" Clinton asked. "I've won elections, and I've lost elections, but I sure feel better when as many people as possible show up and vote."
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/bernie-sanders-rips-gop-restricting-voter-rights-article-1.2361884
Bernie Sanders ripped Republicans over voting rights on Tuesday, though he refused to criticize front-runner Hillary Clinton on her civil rights record. As he hustled from an NAACP rally at the Lincoln Memorial, Sanders promised to do everything I can to end the GOP push to restrict ballot access. It's just simply cowardly that these governors and legislatures are making it harder for poor people, for elderly people and people of color to participate in our political process, he said
Vattel
(9,289 posts)I think she was (or is) being dishonest about the issue in at least one of her campaigns.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)she goes with the wind.she is running ads on gun violence since she sees an opening on an issue to be seen as more liberal than
Bernie.