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askew

(1,464 posts)
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 02:11 PM Nov 2015

Comparing Social Security Position - O'Malley vs. Sanders vs. H. Clinton

Below is a brief comparison of each candidate’s Social Security positions. While this is not the sum of either candidate's positions on Social Security, it is interesting to see what each candidate has said so far on the issue this cycle.

O’Malley continues to release the most detailed plans but Bernie does have an actual plan on his website. Hillary doesn’t have a plan released yet but has made comments elsewhere this cycle about social security.

Martin O'Malley's Full Plan

Bernie Sanders's Full Plan

Hillary Clinton's Issue Page



* Not included in plan but has discussed elsewhere.





Cross-posted at Daily Kos

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Comparing Social Security Position - O'Malley vs. Sanders vs. H. Clinton (Original Post) askew Nov 2015 OP
The cap is the real issue HassleCat Nov 2015 #1
Go O'Malley! hedgehog Nov 2015 #2
why hill2016 Nov 2015 #3
In many urban areas, between 125-250K is middle class, not upper class. askew Nov 2015 #4
Great work, askew! elleng Nov 2015 #5
Good comparison chart Armstead Nov 2015 #6
Is this statement below sexist? EndElectoral Nov 2015 #7
Why would you ask? elleng Nov 2015 #8
Curiosity? EndElectoral Nov 2015 #10
'enhance—rather than roll back—Social Security, especially for women' elleng Nov 2015 #12
Would it be better said that underpaid workers(regardless of sex)should have their benefits enhanced EndElectoral Nov 2015 #14
I haven't studied her positions carefully, elleng Nov 2015 #16
In that regard we are in agreement. EndElectoral Nov 2015 #17
No progressoid Nov 2015 #15
Excellent OP! Along with elleng's OP on immigration, this has facts riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #9
Thanks, riderinthestorm, elleng Nov 2015 #13
recommended phantom power Nov 2015 #11
 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
1. The cap is the real issue
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 02:16 PM
Nov 2015

In fact, we could do just that, and it would be a major accomplishment. Without removing the cap, there will just be more adjusting and tweaking, (maybe some twerking?) to shift more of the burden onto the middle class.

askew

(1,464 posts)
4. In many urban areas, between 125-250K is middle class, not upper class.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 02:40 PM
Nov 2015

The idea is to target as wealthy without hurting middle class.

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
7. Is this statement below sexist?
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 02:49 PM
Nov 2015

"She believes that we should enhance—rather than roll back—Social Security, especially for women."

elleng

(130,913 posts)
12. 'enhance—rather than roll back—Social Security, especially for women'
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 03:16 PM
Nov 2015

suggests an understanding of the FACT that women are underserved when systems don't recognize that we, women, are generally underpaid for the work we do, and that, for cultural reasons, we generally work fewer 'work years' than men.

Nothing 'sexist' in recognizing facts.

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
14. Would it be better said that underpaid workers(regardless of sex)should have their benefits enhanced
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 03:33 PM
Nov 2015

I understand the issue of wage discrimination, and I am all for equal pay for equal work. Are you saying that Clinton's use of the word "enhanced" regarding social security means that since women were underpaid, that they should now receive larger social security checks to account for this inequity?

If so, would you also be for reparations for blacks whose ancestors were held as slaves should now receive larger social security checks to repair this inequity since they were forced into a long term economic hardship in terms of earning a living wage? Or that Native Americans whose treaties were abused by the US government should also now receive larger paychecks to account for this inequity?

If you do believe that I might concur, but it seems Ms. Clinton here is isolating one gender group over others when there is a line of people male and female who might make the complaint that due to injustices their pay has been adversely affected.

elleng

(130,913 posts)
16. I haven't studied her positions carefully,
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 05:23 PM
Nov 2015

I support Martin O'Malley. Surely underpaid workers regardless of sex should have benefits 'enhanced,' and enhanced should mean 'made equitable.'

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
9. Excellent OP! Along with elleng's OP on immigration, this has facts
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 03:02 PM
Nov 2015

no mudslinging or hyperbole.

I'm beyond grateful for posts like this and Ellen's. I'm heartsick about the deterioration of constructive dialogue here.

Thank you.

K&R!!

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