2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumA little story I heard about Bernie Sanders that seems very illuminating
This is something I heard on a Vermont Public Radio documentary about Bernie Sanders, a lifelong profile that was balanced.
Apparently he was a track star in high school. During a race one season there was a fellow runner who was not terribly good. Sanders had won a lot of races. But this time, he deliberately slowed down just enough to let the guy pull ahead and win the race, so he could have a win....He didn't make a big deal out of it, but he just did it to give someone else a little boost.
The other guy remembered that for the rest of his life.
IMO, as a reflection of character and integrity, that says something about the sincerity of all that Sanders has done since then.
olddots
(10,237 posts)Unfortunately to many people winning is everything even though that is totally anti scientific .
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)EOM
blackspade
(10,056 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Qutzupalotl
(14,313 posts)from Facebook's "Moderates for Bernie" group:
https://www.facebook.com/PeopleForBernie/photos/a.1657630031123871.1073741829.1645816202305254/1719987438221463/?type=3
Armstead
(47,803 posts)THis is from someone who tagged along one night in the 80's while Mayor Sanders and an alderman were out visiting constituents, just to talk to them to see if they had any problems or concerns....
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/bernie-sanders-mayor/407413/
An elderly woman answers Sanders knock this time. When he asks if shes got any complaints, she answers precisely in French-accented English. The recent state reappraisal of real estate values has increased her taxes over a thousand dollars a year, she points out, but her income has remained the same. She owns the house and lets her granddaughter and her children live next door for nothing, so it doesnt help that the state says that the apartment can be rented on the open market for $300-$500 a month. I cant put my great-grandchildren out in the street, just to get the rent money to pay the taxes, she explains. Im a widow, my husband died, so all I have is my social security. My granddaughter cant work. She has problems.
The Mayor shakes his head and bites his lower lip. He is listening.
The alderman speaks up. He reminds the woman of Vermonts property tax rebate program, which surely she must qualify for. Sanders seems to have drifted into a melancholy that deepens as the woman explains how hard it is for her to heat her house in winter, how frightened she is of the effect the new condominiums going up on the other side of the park will have on her taxes, how worried she is about tripping on the sections of the sidewalk ripped up for the new gas main....
Thabault stands by the door, clipboard in hand, taking notes. Ill get that rebate information for you, he assures her in a low voice.
She murmurs, I dont take welfare.
The mayor says, Its not welfare. Its money that never should have been taken from you in the first place, for Gods sake.
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Sanders finally ended his tour at the St. Johns Club. Its an old-fashioned neighborhood political clubhouse...Sanders sat down at a table, sipped at a bottle of beer and explained to a small group of voters from the neighborhood, men and women of various ages, all of them working people, how the state property-tax rebate works, assuring them that if their annual income is below $35,000, they can quality for a rebate. These folks are householders barely holding on to their houses, and they need to know what Sanders is telling them, so they listen intently.
Its more a private than a public occasion, but Sanderss intensity, heating up as he speaks, is unmodulated and is almost inappropriate.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)I've been there, it's right on the bike trail in Burlington. We didn't call them alderman they were city councilors and afaik still are. Burlington is a funny pace politically a liberal center in a politically interesting state.
If it's the St. John's club which was on College St. (I googled it but couldn't determine if it was) it's closed now, great property I'm sure Champlain College will turn it into a dorm soon enough.
Interesting article, thanks for posting.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)from that article... are you trying to denigrate Senator Sanders? Those of us who read the entire article can see what you've done.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)chervilant
(8,267 posts)Its more a private than a public occasion, but Sanderss intensity, heating up as he speaks, is unmodulated and is almost inappropriate.
This sounds as though you are cherry-picking (out of context, too) a negative about Bernie, and that's confusing to me, because I thought you are a supporter.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)not a criticism but it reads oddly in keeping with the rest.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)gregcrawford
(2,382 posts)Bernie's got a bunch of stories like that. You just won't hear any of them from him. Bernie is the Anti-Trump!
Bernblu
(441 posts)Unfortunately, this is unusual in politics today.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)appalachiablue
(41,140 posts)tclambert
(11,087 posts)Or in Donald Trump's case, throwing rocks in all directions.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)klook
(12,155 posts)Bernie Sanders is a sincere guy who really wants everyone to have an even break.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)A good combination methinks.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)I satvon the jury for a post that called all Clinton supporters assholes. So there ya go.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)because it would have been hidden
I don't understand how anyone especially those that call themselves Democrats can vote for a corporate owned,
Wall St owned candidate.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Until then I didn't realize how rabid some of them are. That was like something you see at freeperville or Fox nation.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)for the not-really-Dem is gonna turn the country over to the Pubs
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)So a common theme is that his supporters suck, and thus by association he's horrible.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)That's more important than empathy. Conservatives love strong, tough authoritarian leaders and are willing to give up freedoms and liberties. It's not unlike Jr High when some kids were attracted to the biggest bully, hoping he/she will protect them and give them power.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)were the ones that took the less popular "progressive" side.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)Thanks for the thread, Armstead.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)We didn't and are paying the price.
I wonder if President Sanders can pull it off? He is the only one who would try.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Thank you, Armstead!
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)maindawg
(1,151 posts)I knew the other catcher wanted to play and I wanted him to play. I told him to go in for me and he geared up.All hell broke loose. Coaches freaking out. I knew they would. I told them I was hurt. I cant play. I di dnot act hurt, I just told them I was. Looked em in the eye. People are f d up man. Be fair. I wasnt that good anyway. I hate games ,I did not understand winning but, I hate loosing too. I like to compete. I liked to run. I wanted to do well. I just liked to play.
I understand a runner who may give in to his body in a race and accept defeat. I think thats what Bernie did here. Because that is what its like , to race.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)egduj
(805 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)ErikJ
(6,335 posts)Geesh dont leave us hangin!
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Orrex
(63,213 posts)What others have chosen to see as a grand and selfless act, I see instead as patronizing and vaguely insulting.
Sanders' intention might have been good, but I would never want to claim a victory simply because a superior competitor chose to throw a race for me. That would be no victory at all.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Orrex
(63,213 posts)Especially not if that incident were cited decades later as a feelgood story about a prospective candidate for the Whitehouse.