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Renew Deal

(81,859 posts)
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 08:30 AM Nov 2015

Did the Democratic drop-outs essentially end the race?

Hilary's poll numbers and leads have shot up over the last couple weeks. Did Bidens choice to not run and the departure of Webb and Chafee change the race? It looks like it might have essentially ended Bernie's campaign as well.

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Did the Democratic drop-outs essentially end the race? (Original Post) Renew Deal Nov 2015 OP
Two points... brooklynite Nov 2015 #1
And, at the risk of fantasy, Sanders staying in gives O'Malley breathing room. Recursion Nov 2015 #2
The media narrative won't change. n/t seabeckind Nov 2015 #4
I'd love to see O'Malley do well! He's a good man and an underrated candidate. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #12
That would be kind of magical (nt) Recursion Nov 2015 #15
I do too Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #17
I believe you mean 1992 DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #5
Correct; it's early brooklynite Nov 2015 #6
McGovern's 84 campaign was a message campaign as well. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #7
I think both the debate and her performance sufrommich Nov 2015 #3
I will say it here and now Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #8
If the majority of Democrats (and that is a proven fact now) support her VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #10
Old talking-points and buzzwords are hard to let go of, apparently. (nt) NurseJackie Nov 2015 #13
No talking point like an old talking point! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #14
No, I don't think they will. frylock Nov 2015 #18
Maybe we should wait until at least a few votes have been cast Cassiopeia Nov 2015 #9
Too pragmatic. frylock Nov 2015 #19
They never really dropped in.... BooScout Nov 2015 #11
Pretty much Gman Nov 2015 #16

brooklynite

(94,572 posts)
1. Two points...
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 08:44 AM
Nov 2015

1. Clinton has always had a solid lead. There was some excitement among Sanders supporters about New Hampshire, and how that was a harbinger of national trends, but the polling numbers never reflected that. Add to which, the current lead had pretty much solidified by mid September (Clinton's decline and Sanders growth both flattened) before anyone dropped out.

2. The race won't end, because Sanders isn't running just to win; he's running to push his agenda. Like Jerry Brown in 1992, he'll run up until the end of the Primary season, no matter how many votes he gets, to talk about the issues that concern him.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
2. And, at the risk of fantasy, Sanders staying in gives O'Malley breathing room.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 08:46 AM
Nov 2015

If O'Malley and Sanders both stay in after NH, and if O'Malley beats Sanders in either SC or NV (neither of which is inconceivable), the media narrative changes very quickly.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
12. I'd love to see O'Malley do well! He's a good man and an underrated candidate.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 09:18 AM
Nov 2015

(And if he does, the reaction from the hardcore Bernie followers will be fun to watch too.)

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
5. I believe you mean 1992
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 08:52 AM
Nov 2015
The race won't end, because Sanders isn't running just to win; he's running to push his agenda. Like Jerry Brown in 2004, he'll run up until the end of the Primary season, no matter how many votes he gets, to talk about the issues that concern him.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
3. I think both the debate and her performance
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 08:48 AM
Nov 2015

at the GOP Benghazi/witch trial helped her more that anything else.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
8. I will say it here and now
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 09:07 AM
Nov 2015

Many will regret it when the anointed one gets the nomination and evolves back to the right.

BooScout

(10,406 posts)
11. They never really dropped in....
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 09:15 AM
Nov 2015

Biden was never in. It was speculation that he 'may' jump in....and he never should have been included in polls.

Chafee and Webb never were in it with much of anything.....no campaigning to speak of, no support and no status in the polls.

I think Sander's campaign is stagnating because it never was going to appeal to the broad base of the Democratic Party.

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