Lay down with dogs, you get fleas....

[Yurovsky]

so I guess everyone who is supporting Madame Secretary is A- OK with Hillary and Wall Street snuggled up under a comforter... All of that ill-gotten, dirty money that drowns out the voices of poor & working-class Americans is no big deal, and Hillary will stand up to Wall Street after she's elected. And of course, that's like next-level genius shit because she's taking their money and then she'll rake them over the coals and put some of those crooked bastards in jail where they belong...

Yeah, I can see that happening...

[Scuba]

1. Hey, she told them to cut it out. That's good enough for her backers.

[leftofcool]

2. Yawn

[Martin Eden]

5. Hopefully, you'll wake up. n/t

[Yurovsky]

8. Don't hold your breath...

that Goldman-Sachs kool-aid keeps the sheeple in a dreamy stupor that they have no real desire to awaken from. Lotus-land for the H-> crowd...

I guess it's easy to not give a fuck about other people when you've already got yours. I expect that shit from the GOP. if Hillary actually gave 2 shits about the poor & working class, she'd tell the Wall Street banking elitists to take their dirty money and go fuck themselves. But her greed and/or callous disregard for the downtrodden won't allow it. And now that's she's a wholly-owned subsidiary of these bastards, we're pretty much screwed. Sure it might be worse if the GOP wins, but we're talking minute differences in the degree to which we're fucked. Can anyone seriously believe that HRC will bite the hand that has fed her campaign? That's just utterly delusional.

OTOH, if she gets elected and then actually does hold Wall Street accountable for the crimes committed against the American people, I will be the first to formally apologize on DU and any other online platform for having misjudged HRC. Hell, I'll buy a billboard in every American city of over 1,000,00 people and publicly scold myself for having doubted her good intentions when she accepted all of that dirty money. And then I'll give myself a spanking and go to bed without supper...

[Martin Eden]

13. Well, at least she doesn't serve the interests of the MIC

Oh, wait, never mind.

[IthinkThereforeIAM]

17. Oh, com on...

... everybody knows that Hillary is only going to take so much... of their money, and then she is going to turn the tables on them!

[oasis]

3. We'll all just have to wait and see.

Won't we?

[Armstead]

14. That's the problem

Will the "liberal progressive Clinton" be the one who steps into the Oval Office?

Or the Corporate Centrist Clinton, who will immediately appoint some Wall St. insider as Sec, of Treasury, some Corporate Lawyer as Attorney General, a Corporate HR Unionn Buster to Sec. of Labor, Media Barons to the FCC, Monstanto lobbyist to Dec. of Ag......etc.

I guess she'll tell us after the election.

[oasis]

29. We always expect the people we support and vote for will deliver.

It will be no different with Hillary. Over time, Hillary may be a disappointment to many who expected more out of her. What she does accomplish may be a pleasant surprise to many more.

I had no problem getting on board with Obama once he began his GE campaign against McCain/Palin. At no time did I believe I was backing "the better of two evils".

After Obama won the election, I had high expectations of him, based solely on his inspirational
speech presentation and his confident swagger. Seven years later, I am a firm believer in "actions speaking louder than words".

[Agony]

4. Kissinger/Pinochet fleas are the worst kind...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141248465

Kissinger (at the VERY least) should be called out for the horror he actively planned and promoted for the Chilean people.

Not lauded/respected for some kind of sick "leadership".

[BooScout]

6. I always let dogs sleep in my bed...

I like dogs.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. Must be more bad polling numbers

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251760744

[think]

9. Most American have no clue how intertwined Clinton is with big corporate interests.

And those that do apparently are willing to keep explaining it away and ignoring the obvious.

[Yurovsky]

10. Either that or they're OK with it...

there's no shortage of "Democrats" who are only engaged in the process for personal enrichment. Certainly it's more common on the GOP side, but crony capitalism is rooted in DC and state capitals regardless of which party has control. True progressives have an uphill battle in fighting corporate power, especially when it co-opts the very party to which they belong.

Make no mistake, corporate power brokers knew Bernie wasn't for sale, so they've spread their money around on various GOP candidates as well as Madame Secretary. It's called hedging your bets. These folks may be evil, but they're not stupid.

[Cosmic Kitten]

23. Bad Polling Numbers? Hillary TRAILS Ben Carson

Ben Carson runs best against Hillary Clinton out of GOP hopefuls: poll
Mr. Carson and Mrs. Clinton were tied at 44 percent apiece, according to the survey from the Democratic-leaning firm Public Policy Polling, and Mr. Carson had an 8-point, 43 percent to 35 percent advantage over Mrs. Clinton among independents.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/3/carson-best-of-gop-hopefuls-against-clinton-poll/

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_carson_vs_clinton-5119.html

'Electable' Hillary Clinton trails Ben Carson, tied with Donald Trump in new poll.
Hillary Clinton who is often touted by her supporters as the most 'electable' Democrat and the only one capable of defeating whoever is the Republican nominee next November, does poorly against quite a few of them in a new Morning Consult poll. She trails Ben Carson 42/41, Carson has made a number of outrageous comments just recently comparing abortion to slavery. She's tied with Donald Trump at 43/43 who is widely regarded as the easiest Republican candidate to beat. Jeb Bush is tied with her at 41/41 despite his flailing campaign.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/27/1440822/--Electable-Hillary-Clinton-trails-Ben-Carson-tied-with-Donald-Trump-in-new-poll

[rbrnmw]

33. I am sure Dr Carson appreciates your support

Are you working for his campaign?

[bravenak]

36. You sure Love Ben Carson. I get it. He is a very intelligent surgeon. I have no problem with you

voting for Carson.

[bigwillq]

11. The machine must be stopped.

No more Clinton. No more Bush.

[tom_kelly]

12. I was proud of her as First Lady

The way she took on the pharmacutical industry. That was until they bought her out. Very disappointing.

[A Simple Game]

15. Just don't be in a big hurry, she won't be able to stand up to them until after 2020 because

she will need their support to get re-elected. Then watch out! Of course by then most people won't be able to afford a newspaper, cable, or the internet so we won't know that she stood up to them.

[RoccoR5955]

20. I'm not holding my breath

Besides there is not enough time left to ward off the crisis of a global catastrophe of climate change.
We need someone who will do something about it NOW!

[SmittynMo]

16. This is downright sickening.

All that dirty money to HRC. These are the people that stole millions from hard working people and damn near collapsed our economy. So it's pretty obvious she wont do shit to Wall street. She's also non committal to breaking up the banks. (IE: I'll consider it).

I don't understand why people cannot see this. Are we this stupid? I'm guessing yes. And all the Clintonites that posted here have nothing but ignorant remarks, like "I sleep with my dog", and "I guess new poll numbers are out". These are people that like the status quo, corrupt politics, while the country continues to go in the wrong direction towards oligarchy. Oh my, what a huuuuuuge mistake they are making.

And then there's Bernie. Need I say more?

[Yurovsky]

19. It's frustrating for sure...

but sadly not unexpected.

True change is difficult. It can be unpleasant. People will attack you, especially those with a vested interest in the status quo.

But I'd rather stand for what is right than parade around taking a victory lap with people who are OK with continued injustice and oppression. Not sure how some people sleep at night, but I guess that's their problem.

[RoccoR5955]

21. She'll tell them to "cut it out."

That should be good enough for her supporters.

[SmittynMo]

22. Cut it out.

Yep. And that worked so well for her the first time.

I just don't get why people don't see right through her.

It's all fluff and bullshit.

[RoccoR5955]

31. I can see it a mile away.

Too bad so many people are poor judges in these things.
I could probably sell a lot of them a bridge if I was good.

[UglyGreed]

18. They don't care

about money, the distortions and the pandering. The Third Way is the only way in some people's eyes....

[SmittynMo]

37. This is borderline

between ignorance and stupidity.


I wish them well.

[Still In Wisconsin]

24. This is exactly why I will never be enthusiastic about Hillary Clinton or her candidacy-

sure, I'll vote for her over some far more vile Republican in the general election. But I'm not spending my money or time on her. I have thought and continue to think that Hillary is all about Hillary and not much else. Again, I hope she wins the general but it truly is a lesser of two evils choice for me.

My money and time, however, are going to Russ Feingold this election cycle.

[Myrina]

25. It'a cult of personality, basically.

They excuse her record because she's ... her.

[VanillaRhapsody]

26. Is this where the pity party is being held?

I heard their was a kegger and everything!

[Armstead]

32. More like the pissed off realism party

[HereSince1628]

27. socialism is foreign and scary, oligarchy is familiar

it's just another way, say a third way, or if you wish--the best way of managing a kleptocracy.

No, no don't think THAT! It's really not just all corruption re: the buying of government. It's about Americans' true political desires. What -every- voting citizen wants in politicians is people who represent them.

All that money is just free-speech working to elect the candidates that can, most pragmatically, best represent the donors' interest.

It's silly to make the Big money the enemy of the small money. Really. It's all the very same money (at least the part that isn't riyals and renmimbi). Lets just celebrate it as campaign war-chests FULL of money that will protect and serve the American Dream of creating bigger piles of more and more money.

[upaloopa]

28. Too bad your guy won't win the primary isn't

it. You are so pissed you post crap like this OP.
I feel sorry for you

[Agschmid]

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[WillyT]

30. Apparently... Winning Is ALL That Matters...

So proud...

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

35. I expect to return the money, and refuse to accept any more of it.

After all, she says she's against the corrosive influence money has on politics and our government.

She wouldn't lie would she?