Bernie missed only 5% of votes while running President. Hillary missed 83.5%.

[jfern]

[Scuba]

1. The Rubio School of Campaigning

[Fumesucker]

3. Oh please, the difference between 83.5 and 90 is yoooge compared to 83.5 and 5

[Hortensis]

8. We're a YEAR OUT from 2016. That's a lot of time to miss more

votes, not that we're likely to see how Bernie would do if he were to win the primary.

Furthermore, if Bernie were campaigning as heavily as he might he would be traveling a lot farther from D.C. a lot more often than he is.

[RoccoR5955]

18. A lot further from DC?

Bernie has been to LA and Seattle. Does he have to go to Hawai'i and Alaska to make it far enough?

[virtualobserver]

51. flying coach for god's sake

[Hortensis]

70. Two flights across this big country? Wow! Hope there were actually more.

BUT: When Bernie is out campaigning so often that he can't get back to DC to vote most of the time -- like his competitors -- that'll be an indicator that he's genuinely doing his best to win the primary.

Think about it.

[sabrina 1]

33. And isn't it amazing that without all that Corporate Money allowed by Citizens United, which

is pouring into Hillary's Super Pacs, Bernie has managed to mount a real challenge to a candidate who should have over 80% of the Dem primary vote.

And he's only just begun.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

53. Hillary must have been out having coffee mornings when she should have been in Congress

[jeff47]

58. So you couldn't find the yellow line on the graph? (nt)

[youceyec]

2. what year is it again?

I could have sworn it was 2015???? oh well!

#cds, even liberals are not immune!

[Bernin4U]

54. Exactly! Everything was different back then.

I was using my first iPhone. Friggin Stone Age.

[demmiblue]

4. Those statistics are rather shocking.

Good on Bernie for doing what the people elected him to do.

[marble falls]

6. Shocking was the word that came to my mind also. I was very surprised by the President's %.

[MADem]

77. Maybe not. Were the votes that were missed a load of procedural bullshit? And how many votes

has the GOP majority put before the members since Sanders started running?

Were the Senators' votes needed in order for their side to prevail? Did absenteeism change the result?

Without actual figures, percentages can sound dire but in fact be meaningless.

Let's see a list of votes missed. Then we can oooh and ahhh--like that's going to make people 'not vote' for a candidate.

People will vote if they like the person, they won't give two squirts about how many Senate votes they missed.

Don't hang your hat on this number being an "influencer."

[kelliekat44]

5. Yeah, since, to me, Obama turned out to be damn good President for the time.

I bet Hillary was there for the votes that mattered to NY and NYC. Those are the people who elected her to work for them. And I believe there were not too many important votes that she missed. Take time to look at what the Senate votes on in the course of a day. Only 5% of votes are critical.

[Live and Learn]

9. Apparently, Bernie views the entire country as important, unlike Hillary,

as you just acknowledged.

[kelliekat44]

24. I want to see a list of all the Bills that she missed and the content of the Bills.

Many votes are on amendments that change little. Also, members check to see the vote counts on Bills and if it looks like the numbers insure pass or fail by wide margins, no need to vote.

[Bernin4U]

59. Cool! Have to try that one at MY work.

"Boss, you know, only 5% of this work is critical."

[1StrongBlackMan]

7. ...

Were new poll numbers released?



I wonder what the next DU superiority metric will be?

[Live and Learn]

10. Hillary's support of Wall Street is really that funny to you? nt

[1StrongBlackMan]

13. No ... I continue to have concerns about portions of HRC economic platform ...

Were any of those 95% of votes that Bernie cast about Wall street?

But that said, I can separate that from the desperation of this OP.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. What is funny is this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251760744

[Live and Learn]

30. The disappearance of the middle class is funny? nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. What is funny is you saying I said something I didn't say. Now that is funny.

[Live and Learn]

32. But you did and are. You are supporting the status quo and

the status quo is killing the middle class.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

34. I am supporting the candidate who has her proverbial finger in the dike ...

I am supporting the candidate who has her proverbial finger in the dike and represents the best chance to prevent the GOPU from controlling all three branches of government,

[Live and Learn]

35. The forest from the trees.... nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. You should change your handle to 1StrongandPresceientBlackMan

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251760744

[Orrex]

11. It will be interesting to see if anyone cares about this

Since it's generally a non-issue except for the people who already weren't going to vote for a given candidate, I don't expect it to have a big impact, especially since it's ancient history.

[Live and Learn]

12. Won't matter a bit here but it does give Bernie supporters a bit of a 'duh'

and a 'that is why we support Bernie' kind of moment. Oh yeah, and we will be glad to pass it along to others on the street and on social media.

[Orrex]

17. You're welcome to spread it far and wide, of course.

I just don't see it getting any traction. It doesn't seem to have hurt Obama in the slightest, for instance.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. Jeb Bush, ersatz Senate truant officer,gets slapped down hard

[wolfie001]

19. One wonders if the repukes come to DU for some of their talking points

Would make sense. All's fair in love and war and Presidential campaigning. Your enemy of your enemy is you friend. Of course, that's how we all ended up with Alito and Roberts. But that's a part of history that seems to be missing from the conversation.

[saturnsring]

21. this is a good place for it with all the dem bashing going on on dem politic board

[VanillaRhapsody]

67. Someone tried to tell me today that

DU was about Talking about Democrats....not getting them elected .....seriously....they think that!

[TheKentuckian]

23. Seemed to me that Gore ran a lackluster at best campaign that burned a lot of daylight

attempting to narrow and muddle the distinction from Bush, too many voters weren't appealed to by doing so which added weight to the charge of "not a dimes worth of difference" and failing to motivate turnout in general while also failing to give soft Republican voters a moment's pause which combined to tighten the race which was mixed with all manner of irregularities in Florida and probably other states and a big "non precedent setting" thumb on the scales from the Supreme Court which essentially amounted to a soft coup that resulted in Alita and Roberts but by all means keep trying to edit/delete/really - write history to cover up and absolve the criminal and power hungry activities of the Republicans and the weak to borderline inept campaign out of the Turd Way/DLC handbook.

[frylock]

39. The standard fall-back comment when one can't counter an argument.

[wolfie001]

80. My fallback plan is to vote Democrat

[saturnsring]

20. desperate

[hellraiser69]

22. I know how Bernie voted

On the so-called "Pension Reform Act of 2014", that is going to cut my rightfully earned pension by 60% and is going to throw hundreds of thousands of seniors into poverty.
Haven't heard a damn word from Hillary or the MSM on this.

[thucythucy]

29. A link would be helpful to let us know what you're talking about. Nt

[hellraiser69]

37. congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/1631

Exactly my point the bill called the Multi employer pension act. of 2014 was snuck into the Cromnibus spending bill at the end of last year voiding a 1974 law prohibiting pension plans from reneging on pensions promised for life when we retired. Bernie and most progressive Senators voted against this but of course the Repugs loved it as another way to stick it to union members.
This is why I asked if any of the Hillary supporters on here know her stand on this issue affecting some 400,000 retirees.

[jfern]

42. It's hard to get a yes or no answer from Hillary

She'll give you some sort of triangulation designed to try to please both sides.

[hellraiser69]

45. Exactly

Guess us seniors and retirees aren't important to anyone except Bernie.
We get no COLA increase from Social Security and a huge pension cut and none of this seems to matter to HRC.

[thucythucy]

44. Sounds like a typically awful GOP scam.

I'll be curious to see if and what the response from the Clinton campaign will be.

[hellraiser69]

46. Seems we aren't important enough

to get any attention from the HRC campaign or the MSM.
Several hundred thousand retirees being forced into poverty through no fault of our own is apparently unimportant to them.
The silence from the Hillary supports on this is deafening.

[thucythucy]

81. Have you posted this as an OP?

This is definitely important enough to be an OP all on its own. It will definitely get more attention than a single comment in someone else's OP. Just post the information you posted here and see what happens. You'll definitely get a K & R from me, and hopefully others will notice this as well.

I hate how issues like this get ignored, while nonsense about debate moderators and hairstyles and right wing BS gets thrown around like any of that matters.

Anyway, thanks for bringing this to our attention. I definitely want to hear more about it.

[Paulie]

47. What side are the banks on?

[JaneyVee]

25. Months to go.

[Historic NY]

26. Not a lot of Senate votes being made these days in DC.

[OilemFirchen]

27. A link would be useful.

What does the asterisk mean?

[Sheepshank]

28. Desperate & misleading OP

the chart shows missed voted 10-13 month's prior to the General Election. Ahem, we are still 12 months away from the 2016 GE. That said, you have a full years' worth of 2008 data on Hillary and 1 month's worth of data on Sanders.

[moobu2]

36. lol why am I not surprised?

[jeff47]

55. So you couldn't find the yellow line in the graph?

Have you been tested for colorblindness?

[Sheepshank]

71. no....I'm good with the vision part

I'm wondering if you read the full compliment of the texts and dates in the graph.

The OP is attempting to compare the percentage of 1 month worth of Bernie's missed votes, to other Senators percentage in 12-13 months of missed voted, in an election year.

Your snark really wasn't necessary, but I suspect you don't even know how to turn it off anymore.

[jeff47]

72. Apparently you didn't actually read it.

The "12-13 months" part is because they do not know how many votes Sanders will miss in the future. Not only looking at one month, as you claim.

Again, look at the graph. It stops for Sanders now. It keeps going for Clinton in 2008. But at this point in the 2008 race, Clinton had missed far more votes than Sanders has missed.

[Sheepshank]

73. if you want to go month by month, you should have said so and told the OP too.

that snapshot in time is still not relevent to the OP who is trying to use a one month data and compare it to Hillary's 12-13 month data. Bottom line, is that the percentges cited in the OP are misleading and false on it's face.

[jeff47]

74. Because the graph going month-by-month wasn't obvious enough for you.

that snapshot in time is still not relevent to the OP who is trying to use a one month data and compare it to Hillary's 12-13 month data.

He isn't using one month data. He's using 24-13-months-from-election-day data for Sanders, and 24-12-months-from-election-day data for Clinton. Because we have not completed the 12th month before this election, so we don't have the data for Sanders yet.

For the 12 versus 13 month comparison to be misleading, you have to pretend 83.5% is very close to 5%. Or that Clinton only started missing large number of votes after month 13, which the graph shows is false.

[frylock]

38. Just a progressive getting progressive things done.

[CharlotteVale]

40. LOL.

[EndElectoral]

41. Very interesting.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

43. She was very busy at that time. Making "Hard Choices".....or something.

[Bernin4U]

62. Having to figure out new positions on a weekly basis

is pretty damn time consuming!

[okasha]

48. He's officially out already?

I hadn't heard.

Plenty more time to miss votes unless he drops out before the primaries actually start.

[jeff47]

57. So you couldn't find the yellow line on the graph? (nt)

[okasha]

64. You seem to need to see this

to recognize it.

[jeff47]

65. You seem to need to read your own post.

Plenty more time to miss votes

[Dem2]

49. Bernie is very good and not missing votes.

That's amazing considering the rest of the pack. Good for him.

[tritsofme]

50. Clinton and Obama were serious contenders for the nomination that cycle...Sanders really is not

That's the biggest difference.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

56. Well actually he is

you are only seeing the tip of the iceberg. Hillary is on the Titanic.

[tritsofme]

63. Uh-huh...

He'll probably win Vermont, and collect a few delegates along the way, but he has never had a realistic path to the nomination.

[slipslidingaway]

60. Sanders puts forth issues that are paramount to many people ...

if you want to uphold other candidates that voted for a war of aggression and subsequently said "I'm sorry" as a contender as the best person to put our nation on the right path I do understand.

Unfortunately I also understand the establishment politics and all the dollars that flow to those candidates, their opinions change with the times and money plays a large role. They are not going to rock the boat the too much.

Sanders has not changed his views for decades, pardon those who do not bow down to the candidates who are not backed by big money.

[jfern]

61. Bernie is currently polling higher than Obama ever did in 2007

[still_one]

52. According to this Bernie is the only one who didn't miss voting, and the next best was Cruz

[oldandhappy]

66. WOW priorities!

[cherokeeprogressive]

68. That's because political offices and appointed positions are trinkets to Hillary.

For Bernie Sanders, not so much.

[frazzled]

69. This graph covers not even one month of Sanders' voting record

Note that it states "For the 2016 candidates, data only extends until 12 months before the general election." Well, the general election is MORE THAN 12 months away as of today.

Clinton, on the other hand, ran a primary campaign that extended all the way into June of the election year—the equivalent of 9 extra months of campaigning over the amount Sanders is being vetted on. I doubt this election will go on that long, but let's see how the voting record goes when extended into the next six or nine months, when primary season heats up and is ultimately concluded.

This wins for the stupidest, most misleading graph of the election season. Shame on anyone who capitalized on it.

[livetohike]

78. Thank you for taking the time to post what I was too lazy to do. People see what they want to see

and don't look to figure it out. I'm so disgusted with the crap that is being posted trying to make some sort of gotcha against Clinton and show what a saint Bernie is - even if it is totally useless.

[frazzled]

79. Thank you for noticing, but people will ignore the facts.

Maybe one of us should post an OP saying "Hillary Clinton misses 0% of votes in 2016 election cycle!!!!" I think they'd get that piece of contrivance. And they'd be outraged at its duplicity.

Honestly, I give up.

[in_cog_ni_to]

75. Bernie is, unquestionably, the most ETHICAL politician in Congress.

Go Bernie!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[MADem]

76. With luck he'll keep his great record right up until he suspends his campaign/drops out of the race!