Has anyone noticed this shift in thinking about Clinton from Sanders folks?
Up until a month ago it was: Clinton is losing and can't win the nomination, Sanders is rising in the polls and is unbeatable.
Now it's: Clinton isn't really a Democrat and the people who are going to vote for her aren't real Democrats either.
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which they do at their own peril. The general public is not as extreme as some corners of the internet and will be turned off at being called silly names.
Mostly I try to remember how stressful it must be for them to carry around those huge halos -- so heavy. 
"Sanders is much more of a real mid-20th century Democrat, a Democratic party that FDR shaped and which led the greatest economic boom in history as well as civil rights and dramatic social reforms"
ok. now we have all the info. Thanks. 
FDR after all incarcerated tens of thousands of American citizens without due process, refused to desegregate the armed forces, refused to apply the 14th amendment to federal programs in the south.
JFK invaded Cuba (Bay of Pigs), supported the overthrow of the democratically elected government of Guyana, accelerated the arms race (the bogus "missile gap"
, enlarged our military presence in Vietnam; and didn't take a forthright position on the Civil Rights Act until the last days of his administration.
I think it might be more accurate to say Hillary is not a Henry Wallace Democrat. Henry Wallace was as close to Bernie Sanders as you'll find up till now, and FDR dumped him from the ticket in 1944 for being too liberal.
This sure looks like EVERY Republican I have ever seen...
or they're cowards and deathly afraid of her and that's the reason they're backing her. 
the DNC chair who has backed Republicans in her district, are pushing us to vote for aren't Democrats, either.
It's like I'm seeing the clone wars, and Hillary is not the Jedi Knight. I know I am a dork, it's nothing new. 
BS isn't going anywhere, and a lot of the - uh - "Democrats" here have turned their attention to bashing HRC full-time.
It makes you wonder how many BS supporters on DU were ever "Democrats" to begin with, or were ever the least bit interested in keeping the WH in Dem hands.
BTW, I'm NOT wondering. I think a lot of hands have been tipped over the past few months, and obviously so.
BTW, good thinking about looking up words you don't know. Is that what you did before you used the word "tenure"?
I didn't need to.
<<< just in case.only now he/she is trying on the "I voted for (President) Obama a million times ... I didn't leave the Democratic Party left me ... I'm a FDR Democrat" clothing on.
And oh yeah ... still getting rec's. So I guess the clothing fits good enough to blend in ... Or, some just have stopped looking around.
I won't argue mine any further. I'm not a member of the DSA. I guess we're all different. You raise some interesting questions. I too am curious about where Sanders stands on some of this stuff.
Thanks for the stimulating discussion. I'm delighted the democratic party is inclusive enough for both of us.
are merely their useful tools. This has been going on here for a LONG time, make no mistake.
Know your history! You pass their shit on, you're part of their network--and we've seen plenty of this happening here on DU:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/17/us/politics/the-right-aims-at-democrats-on-social-media-to-hit-clinton.html?_r=0
For months now, America Rising has sent out a steady stream of posts on social media attacking Mrs. Clinton, some of them specifically designed to be spotted, and shared, by liberals. The posts highlight critiques of her connections to Wall Street and the Clinton Foundation and feature images of Democrats like Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts and Mayor Bill de Blasio of New York, interspersed with cartoon characters and pictures of Kevin Spacey, who plays the villain in “House of Cards.” And as they are read and shared, an anti-Clinton narrative is reinforced.
America Rising is not the only conservative group attacking Mrs. Clinton from the left. Another is American Crossroads, the group started by Karl Rove, which has been sending out its own digital content, including one ad using a speech Ms. Warren gave at the New Populism Conference in Washington last May.
“Powerful interests have tried to capture Washington and rig the system in their favor,” intones Ms. Warren, as images of Mrs. Clinton with foreign leaders flash by.
The new-style digital campaign captures some basic facts about 21st-century communication: Information travels at warp speed on social media, it is sometimes difficult to know where that information comes from, and most people like to read things with which they agree. The result, said Ken Goldstein, a professor of politics at the University of San Francisco who specializes in political advertising, is something more sophisticated.....No one thinks attacking Mrs. Clinton from the left is likely to turn the most liberal Democrats into Republican voters. But Steven Law, president of American Crossroads, said the goal was simply to erode what should be her natural core of support.
“It can diminish enthusiasm for Hillary among the base over time,” he said. “And if you diminish enthusiasm, lukewarm support can translate into lackluster fund-raising and perhaps diminished turnout down the road.”
Any time you see a "Daily Caller" or Drudge or Breitbart or any of those Limbaugh-loving wingnut links here, shitting on Clinton, that poster is carrying Rovian water. 'Bout time YOU noticed!
A conspiracy, is it?
Republican operatives, why, YES, they are "tools of the right wing."
But sorry to tell you, this isn't a conspiracy -- you'd know that if you actually read the post and the link. This is a political tactic.
Did you really have THAT MUCH trouble reading and understanding what I wrote? Because, ya know, it's all in that post. Details, too. You can click on the link and actually READ the ARTICLE where this information was sourced.
I suspect you didn't do that, because you responded rather quickly. Why don't you go back and actually click the link, and read the full article?
It might help you with your difficulty in understanding the very obvious point that was being made.
It's not about "checks" -- it's about being duped by the right because they are saying things that you desperately want to hear.
Good grief, the most salient point is the first sentence I quoted--and bolded:
There's nothing about money there. Or being "eligible" to make Big Bucks.
If you're quoting Newsmax, Daily Caller, Brietbart, etc., you're being conned with a divide-and-conquer strategy. They're laughing all the way to the bank.
Yeah. Right.
